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Harry Potter & The Deathly Hallows *Warning - Thread WILL Contain Spoilers*

From what I can remember, she's just mentioned when people are brought to Hogwarts to fight.

She offers to go up to the Ravenclaw common room with Harry to help him find the Horcrux, but Ginny (who seems jealous :lol:) suggests that Luna do it instead.

There might be a little more, I can't really remember. :flower:
:flower:Thanks Day ^_^ It sounds a bit important to me though :p so I'm hoping she'll be in the 7th movie. well Ginny damn her :judge::doh::lol:
 
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I'm sure she'll be in the movie, considering her role and promotion the other movies.
 
Can someone answer this? I'm really curious to know what people think about it.

Did Harry defeat Voldemort purely by luck? The only reason he won was because the Elder wand recognized him as the master and rebounded the Avada curse to Voldemort.

If Voldy and Harry actually dueled properly, like two different wands, I'm sure Harry would've gotten his butt handed to him.

I just feel that Harry won by fluke.
 
Harry didn't defeat Voldemort by pure luck. There was a lot that factored into him winning. Although it seems like luck, it is much more than that. He didn't win by using his wand, but he produced a magic much stronger than that -- love. I know that's what they say throughout the 7 years, but it's what it came down to like Dumbeldore said. So technically, Harry was stronger than Voldemort because he had love especially since he couldn't get killed even by the elder wand. I'm not entirely sure if that makes any sense. It makes sense in my brain.
 
^ I think it was a bit more than luck, too. Voldemort was stubborn and arrogant and refused to believe what Harry was telling him; the truth. So, in the end, it's Voldemort's own flaws that brought about his death, I think.
 
All rightttt so I thought I posted in here already but apparently not!

I hadn't planned on getting the book at midnight but at the last minute I thought "what the hey, it's the last Harry Potter book!" and lined up. I read that night until almost 3 AM and finished the rest the next day. (My boyfriend's sister in law got the book at midnight and finished at 5:45 AM the SAME NIGHT! It sounds impossible, but she's a crazy reader)

I thought the book was well done considering the immense amount of pressure J.K Rowling must have been in. It must be so hard to satisfy millions of readers, and I think she did a good job of ending the series. Of course people will find something to nit pick about the book. You can't satisfy everybody, and for the most part I think she did a fabulous job.

To be honest the book kind of took away what I had previously thought of Dumbledore, but at the same time I appreciated learning more about his background and because of that he seemed more human. I wanted him to come back so badly, just like Gandalf did in Lord of the Rings haha.. that would have been so awesome (you can debate about what happened in the end whether he truly came back or not, but I'm glad Harry had one last conversation with Dumbledore)

The Dursleys! I was happy to see a kind side of a Dursley family member. I was glad to see that Dudley actually acknowledged that Harry saved his life. That was really sweet.

I'm not sure whose death I was most sad about.. I was kinda bummed about Hedwig haha.. for some reason I was sad about Remus Lupin but after somebody posted earlier that it would make sense that the Marauders would be together again, I felt better.

Man Bellatrix is horrible! I'm glad Mrs. Weasley got rid of her. It would have been nice if Neville got a piece of her but I think it was for the best because in my mind, I still see Neville as an innocent boy (yes I know they are 17! :p) who is incapable of killing for revenge.

One question I had was... how did Neville pull the Gryffindor Sword from the Sorting Hat to kill Nagini if the goblin Griphook stole it back at Gringotts? Am I missing something? I thought that was a major plot hole.

The epilogue.. my first reaction was "AWWWW" and I absolutely cannot wait until we see this in the film version.. but I sort of wish it was a big longer. I also think it was a bit rushed.. also I was getting confused as heck seeing all the names like James and Lily and Albus Severus hahah ...

All in all, I am happy :flower:
 
I don't think it was luck. i think that there was more to it than that, like harry's inner strength which was what dumbledore had planned all along, harry despite being the human one with faults in his relationship with dumbledore is proved to be superior.

the epilogue was cute BUT they focused far to much on the core characters but not in a nice way i mean what jobs do they have, was harry an auror? whos now head of hogwarts etc.. what happened to the heads of houses.

however i think one of the most touching scenes in the book that daniel radcliffe better get some acting lessons fast to do has to be when they carry harry out and everyone is so upset. showing how harry is the only hope they had left.
 
just finished reading now.
first thing i did was come on here
i cant stop crying
happiness and sadness .. mostly sad cause its all over after all these years!
 
After Harry decided on sacrificing himself, I accepted his death but I was so glad when he came back. I was really happy that no one from the trio died, because that would ruin the chance of a happy ending
Yes but I though the whole point of the book, or at least one of its central theme, was to show that death is not a sad ending, merely the next adventure as Dumbledore put it.
Let me take the example of Neo for the Matrix series. I do not mean to compare the trilogy and the books qualitatively (the two last movies were steaming piles of poo), but think of the ending. Neo is prepped in the two previous movie to understand he has to sacrifice himself to save those he love. At the end he dies but that still an happy ending because he triumphed (from death, because he accepted it, and from Agent Smith, because of, not technical superiority (he was beaten), but his knowledge of love which allowed his own sacrifice).
I thought Harry might suffer a similar fate, that would have been so great a message.
I always loved how JK wasn't too cutesy and included strong themes in a child book. To me it made it less silly than other child books and that's what made it successful with adults too, imo.
She kept banging on about 'there are things much worst than death' but at the end, there was apparently not. :judge:
Did Harry defeat Voldemort purely by luck? The only reason he won was because the Elder wand recognized him as the master and rebounded the Avada curse to Voldemort.

If Voldy and Harry actually dueled properly, like two different wands, I'm sure Harry would've gotten his butt handed to him.

I just feel that Harry won by fluke.
Harry answered your question in The Plan in the Flaw and Albus give further details in King's Cross. I suggest you read this chapters carefully.
It was never about skill. Harry was never a greatly skilled wizard, he would never have beaten Voldy or any death eater really, would he have to duel them in fair fights. He was an average wizard (even compared with his classmates) with limited skills (expelliarmus and expecto patronum were about the only charms he was remarkably good about, none of wich could harm or kill -which tells us something about him, BTW).
The whole point in that Voldy was killed by his own fear of death, which brought him to do foolish choices. He basically signed his death warrant the day he chose to act on the prophecy. It's all explained in the books.
I loved his death because he was killed exactly like the first time seven years ago, by his own curse, which show that the most greatly skilled wizard never ever learned a thing (or at least the only thing that mattered), he his the only character to never evolves, it's poetic justice. It's fit for him. Great death.
But Hagrid's done magic before. He even attended Hogwarts...for a couple of years, anyway.
The Dudley thing was, I think, the first time he had done magic after Hogwards. Do we have examples of Hagrid doing magic at Hogwards (during harry time, that is)? JK never said the character never done it before no? :unsure:
One question I had was... how did Neville pull the Gryffindor Sword from the Sorting Hat to kill Nagini if the goblin Griphook stole it back at Gringotts? Am I missing something? I thought that was a major plot hole.
Contrary to what Griphook though, the sword was of Godrick ownership since it was magically bonded to the hat. Any true Griffendor would always be able to retrieve the sword in retribution for a act of great bravery, regardless of were the sword is/was. Or at least that's my take. Thought I would love to have seen Griphook face when it disappeared...
 
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^sorry The Flaw in the Plan is what I meant.
I also apologise for the appalling grammar.
 
I completely missed the fact that the goblin had the sword and that Neville just got it magically. I COMPLETELY missed that... and the fact that the hat was on Neville's head and that was how he got it. I'm glad I came in here -- you will always miss things that someone else will get.
 
The Dudley thing was, I think, the first time he had done magic after Hogwards. Do we have examples of Hagrid doing magic at Hogwards (during harry time, that is)? JK never said the character never done it before no? :unsure:

He had to have done magic at Hogwarts; you have to be able to do magic to go to school there. He used to have a wand, remember, but the Ministry broke it and told him he wasn't supposed to do magic anymore. He kept pieces in the umbrella so he could do small spells but since he never finished at Hogwarts he was never very good, and all the while still technically forbidden to do magic.

*I re-read and realized that you meant when Harry was at school there, and I can't immediately think of any off of the top of my head, but honestly I don't think it applies to Hagrid anyway because it was supposed to be someone who couldn't do magic before. Hagrid wasn't technically allowed to, but he was still capable.
 
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dont know where to start theres heaps i wanted to say and ask , but its all gone .

Shocked at snapes innocence all along , i dont know why but i was convinced he was all for the dark side. I cant understand how he treated harry so horribly all these years , after being so in love with his mother , even if he did resemble his father.
Still , i think he died a real hero to their world. I liked how that worked out.

It was a little random to , with the whole 'deathly hallows' thing. it was strange nothing about it had been mentioned earlier? Although it could of been hinted and i never picked up on it.

I cried alot through it (true sook)
-When dudley spoke to harry at the begining, and harry had to say goodbye to them and privet dive

-when hedwig died. cried so hard. just remembering the very first day harry got her , his first trip to diagon alley with hagrid.
-Freds death , naturally

-When lily, james,sirius and lupin came after harry held the stone and they spoke to him

-dobbys death .. harry hand digging his grave and burrying him in socks and a hat . The little house elf died for harry and i`m sure he would of loved that
-the whole final chapter and

-19 years later.

I was so overwhelmed with happiness at harry waving his boys goodbye on the Hogwarts express like he once did , and ron and hermione to.
'Albus severus' and how harry spoke so highly of snape.

The fact that is was all over was just to hard to comprehend. i didnt want to read the last sentence !!

I think i have a couple of critisims but cant think of them now . for now im in shock lol .

just want to scream.. aaaaa :)
 
OH AND !
i am disapointed we didnt find out what harrys & crews occupations now are?
or did i miss that ?
 
Yes but I though the whole point of the book, or at least one of its central theme, was to show that death is not a sad ending, merely the next adventure as Dumbledore put it.

If Harry would have died, yes death would not have been a sad ending. Harry went through so much and has lost so many loved ones, it was his destiny to die by the hand of Voldemort. I think if they killed someone from the trio the whole ending would feel different. Rowling would have had to show Harry in mourning for one of his best friends and then Harry would probably blame himself...
 
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OH AND !
i am disapointed we didnt find out what harrys & crews occupations now are?
or did i miss that ?

You didn't miss it. They didn't say what he was. I hope he went on to become an auror. Would there still be any use for them that Voldemort was gone? I'm sure there would still be witches and wizards who would still practice the dark arts. It wouldn't end with one dark lord. People don't change their ways. Evil will always be alluring. I really hope he became an auror. ^_^
 
Hedwig's death actually affected me a lot more than other events in the book -- you could just tell how desperate Harry felt and when he wouldn't accept it...:cry:
 
auror def farren fashion !
i so wish she had of told us.. when harry had defeated voldemort though i had this rush of thought telling me he would become the next hogwarts headmaster or head of the ministry. something massive.
dissapointed we didnt find out !

Also , how harry kids has no idea he was famous. When everyone was staring at him and ron had to say he was famous !
imagine not knowing how big of a deal your dad was , i mean ,if it wasnt for him little albus james and lilly wouldnt even be there !

FABULOUS to see neville as the new herbology professer.
someone in this thread predicted it. great !
 
Yeah, I definitely loved Neville as a professor. :woot: And the part about James giving Harry & Ginny's love to him was cute...^_^
 

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