McQ Alexander McQueen for Target

free fashion darling. that's what being democratic is about...wearing affordable with the investments with the jumble sale second hand and/or vintage. and i don't mind it at as long as it's honest and true to what that designer still does creatively. the whole purpose is to give people who don't have a 10,000$ seasonal budget for designer clothes a chance to purchase interesting pieces more accessibly.

btw,this is not a mirror of alexander mcqueen the signature collection but as the article stated its a cheaper version of his McQ line.

lucy,i was just going to ask that myself...i hope at the very least he will do some good accessory pieces. i love voile myself.
 
^yup. it's not really Alexander McQueen's aesthetics, it's McQ's, which is basically different. just like Marc by Marc Jacobs is different from Marc Jacobs.

i wouldn't get all fussed about that. i mean, seriously. a difussion line of a difussion line. things don't get much more watered down than that.
 
^^But that's the thing that bothers me. What's the point of having a cheaper version of the McQueen diffusion line? I highly doubt McQueen takes a huge interest in his McQ line, so I doubt even MORE highly that he'd spend much time at all with this line for Target...hell put his stamp of approval on the collection after some design team has put everything together and that will probably be the extent of his involvement.

And what's the point of that?

That's what I mean when I say "democratic design" should not be about high end designers making collections for mass, low end retailers...instead it should be about good design at all price points. Let McQueen design fantastic collections for his own label. Target, Kohls, Wal-Mart, etc...why don't you hire your own talented designers who will create an affordable, stylish line of clothes for your stores? Build a brand that makes customers feel as though, while they may not be able to afford name brand designers, they can at least afford style.
 
^^^That's all well and good, but what about us still-young McQueeniacs who can't afford anything by him at all otherwise? I buy well-designed cheaper clothing with plenty of style, but it isn't "McQueen style". And as long as the collection still looks like him, why wouldn't I buy it?
 
i love mcqueen, but his collab w/ target kind of makes him seem a bit degrading.
eh i bet it's going to be his usual skulls anyways haha.
 
The idea with a brand name is to bring business into the stores, while the designer reaches a new audience. People who otherwise never shop at Target get through the doors, while someone who has never heard of McQ is exposed to the label. You never know, I could one day win the lottery and afford it.
 
The scarves could be a good thing...maybe. I still don't know how I feel about this of course I can only afford Target prices anyway...do we know when this will be in stores yet?
 
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i love mcqueen, but his collab w/ target kind of makes him seem a bit degrading.
eh i bet it's going to be his usual skulls anyways haha.

On the contrary. Target is a very unique animal in the big-box retailer chain. Isaac made millions with his 4+ year partnership with Target. Stella, Zac Posen, Alice McCall have all done collections with Target though not released in the US. Target is definitely on the same "playing field" as H&M. McQueen's collection will be launched under their new adult inititiatve called “Designer Collaborations” not under the GO Int'l line.

So McQ will be targeted to an adult crowd filling the void of the now departed IM line. That might throw out your "skull theory". Remember, this stuff has to sell to your average, adult female consumer. Therefore the price point will be higher and probably in-line with what H&M would have priced his wares at had he done a guest spot with them instead of Target. McQueen will be the first designer to launch this project. I'm assuming that it will fun for 3 months like Go Int'l. I'm not sure, so correct me if I'm in error.

I, for one am glad that Target scooped him up, as H&M tends to cluster their store (i.e. 99 stores in NY, none in Miami) and open up new stores in strange, small cities while taking their sweet time to launch stores in established markets like Miami, Houston, Charlotte, etc. Their expansion in the US has been in my opinion, erratic and ill-advised.

Plus, Target probably compensated him very handsomely, am sure for this project and he does have investors to answer to. Art is great, but when you take art to the masses then it becomes business and business is just that business! I'm sure his investors helped him figure that out real quick!
 
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^^But that's the thing that bothers me. What's the point of having a cheaper version of the McQueen diffusion line? I highly doubt McQueen takes a huge interest in his McQ line, so I doubt even MORE highly that he'd spend much time at all with this line for Target...hell put his stamp of approval on the collection after some design team has put everything together and that will probably be the extent of his involvement.

And what's the point of that?

That's what I mean when I say "democratic design" should not be about high end designers making collections for mass, low end retailers...instead it should be about good design at all price points. Let McQueen design fantastic collections for his own label. Target, Kohls, Wal-Mart, etc...why don't you hire your own talented designers who will create an affordable, stylish line of clothes for your stores? Build a brand that makes customers feel as though, while they may not be able to afford name brand designers, they can at least afford style.

Everybody is making the assumption that Target approach McQueen who is to say that his publicist didn't approach Target!! If life was so goooood with his existing RTW collection why even entertain Target? Obviously they brought an offer to the plate, he could not refuse or let's say his investor wasn't going to turn down.

When you cross the line from indie designer to selling your wears in Nordstroms, Neiman Marcus, Saks, etc. then you are a business person. You have to run every aspect of your designer apparel company like a business and if you're smart, you open yourself up to all types of opportunities and partnerships. Not limiting yourself to just RTW apparel, but including handbags, footwear, fragrances, cosmetics, some even crossover to home decor. Thats part of building a brand! His collab effort w/ Tarjay is also a way to increase that brand awareness. Big Box retailers bring more attention to that brand and also benefit from featuring a up and coming or established designer. No shame in that, it happening left and right, its being done, it is done and perhaps in today's shaky economy it makes a hellva lot of business sense to form alliances and partnership more than ever before.
 
H&M tends to cluster their store (i.e. 99 stores in NY, none in Miami) and open up new stores in strange, small cities while taking their sweet time to launch stores in established markets like Miami, Houston, Charlotte, etc. Their expansion in the US has been in my opinion, erratic and ill-advised.

Tell me about it! H&M just opened a store at San Diego's most popular mall and has only been in California at all for three years. They opened stores in Indianapolis before opening a single store on the West Coast. That's a big HUH? as far as I'm concerned, though I'm sure it made shoppers in Indianapolis happy.
 
wwd / november 18, 2008

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Liela Moss arrives on set. Jumper by Unhee and boots by Guillotine Hinfray.

McQueen Muse for the Masses

Though she's been making music with her band The Duke Spirit for nearly five years, and has put out two albums, including 2008's "Neptune" (Shangri-La Music), Liela Moss has remained under the mainstream fashion and music radar. The London native does, however, have a big fan in Alexander McQueen — although the two have never met — and the designer is about to take his muse to the masses with his Target Designer Collaboration, which features, among other pieces, a T-shirt emblazoned with the singer’s face. Two days before the official debut of the collection, WWD sat down with Moss to discuss the line and her personal style.

WWD: How did you and Alexander McQueen first connect?

Liela Moss:
Well, [the McQ team] contacted us. [McQ stylist] Sherry Lamden had seen us play a few times and was a fan of our work. I guess time and time again, over the last year or so, they’d brought us up on mood boards, or, you know, used pictures of my hair flailing around at a gig. It just felt like it was recurring — that they would always come up with images of our band. I think they finally just decided when this thing with Target was proposed that it would be a good time to make something work.

WWD: How does it feel to be considered a muse for someone like McQueen?

L.M.: It’s sort of preposterous and delightful at the same time. I feel like I’d be a bit of an a--hole if I was really lapping it up too much, but obviously it helps you feel more justified about what you’re doing, your performances. It’s justified all of that hard work — like people have noticed your movement and the visceral quality of what you do — so, for someone to actually approach you and talk about design, it’s very cool.

WWD: What’s the difference between what you wear on normal days and what you wear onstage?

L.M.: I think [my outfit today] is an example of what I would wear onstage, but sometimes I just wear it out to dinner. For performing, I think in terms of accentuation of shapes or things that I know would work really well with arm and hip movements. In terms of day-to-day wear, I really do enjoy a tailored, sharp silhouette; like a great tailored blazer. I like to pick really simple pieces that, when you wear them with jeans and jewelry, they just pop.

WWD: Are you ready to reach a much broader audience and see girls wearing T-shirts with your face on it?

L.M.: God no! I think one egomaniac part of me totally wants it, not for the self-gratification, but because finally, after touring for four and a half years, I’m just more excited that they will be led to our music.

WWD: What was the extent of your involvement in the design process?

L.M.: Not a huge amount, but I was invited to the studio where they were pinning up all of their ideas and they were showing me fabrics and sketches and things like that. In a way, they’ve looked at me and what I’ve worn and then put that into a casual, lower-priced range [for Target]. I remember three visits, and I was wearing something different each time. And each time, they would find a shape in the jacket I was wearing or the fact that there was a tie or clip on something I was wearing and show me how they had incorporated that into their designs.

WWD: Have you spoken to McQueen recently? Has he given you any advice about how to handle the fashion press?

L.M.:
Not really, no. The McQ team did pop ’round last night, and we had a chat. I really think we’re on the same wavelength. They’re so busy and we’ve been on tour so much, we really haven’t had the chance to sit around a table and go, “How will this work?” In fact, there was just a memo sent to me with ideas to talk about, you know, in terms of press, but I didn’t read it. Partly because I was in a hurry but also I just thought, ‘You know what, I’m not really going to worry about having pointers.’ I think sometimes my naïveté or my ignorance about the fashion world might come in handy because you just get an innocent, honest reply. And I’ll just toughen up gradually.
 
good, so in two days we'll have more information or images. :heart:
 
there is another mcqueen for target story in todays issue of wwd.
perhaps someone can tell us whats in it or post it here.

it seems everything is going to be under 129.99. hooray.
 
I don't get why it's so bad for his reputation?
Especially considering he is already wh*ring it out to Puma and Samsonite. Every time a big designer teams with Target there is a big deal in the Media. It's as if by designing for cheap is really charitable and endearing...
The fashion crowd get excited and the rest of the public who never knew about the designer before get excited.
And when the product finally hits stores a newsworthy stampede stampede break out.

Wonder why they didn't mention Stella Mac in that WWD quote? Is it because Target Aus and Target US gets different designers?

I'm still waiting for someone to do Kmart :judge:
 
Wonder why they didn't mention Stella Mac in that WWD quote? Is it because Target Aus and Target US gets different designers?

that's because target australia and target in the US are two completely different companies. the target in australia just leases the name and logo of the target in america. they have no relation to each other.
 
For someone who protects his name and image as fiercely as Alexander McQueen, designing a collection for a mass retailer might seem like a compromise, a declaration of “If you can’t beat ’em, join ’em.” But McQueen stresses the collection he’s designing for Target is entirely his own, no holds barred.

“I can’t work with any kind of restraints,” said the designer. “You can’t give me any boundaries.”

Nor does McQueen see any irony in the fact that his gowns cost thousands of dollars while his clothing for Target, which operates 1,658 stores in 48 states, will be priced under $129.99. That’s because McQueen knows what it’s like when money is tight. “I was brought up on this,” said McQueen, the son of a London taxi driver. “I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth.”

McQueen’s collection for Target’s new Designer Collaborations initiative will launch in March. While the collection might appear to mirror the moves by H&M to link with the likes of Karl Lagerfeld, Stella McCartney and, last week, Comme des Garçons, the Target line is actually an ongoing program aimed at bringing a series of established designers to the masses at low prices. Each collection will be in about 250 stores for a limited time. The entire line will also be available at target.com.

Designer Collaborations is a separate program from Target’s Go International, which is sold in nearly all the chain’s stores and focuses on young or emerging designers. Names the retailer has featured in the past include Luella Bartley, Proenza Schouler, Behnaz Sarafpour, Rogan and Richard Chai. Industry sources have estimated that Go International does more than $100 million in annual sales.

As the first participant in Target’s Designer Collaborations, McQueen is eager to expose a new customer to his richly nuanced and atmospheric aesthetic. The line has its roots in McQueen’s diffusion collection, McQ, which made its debut in January 2006 and ranges in price from $235 for a lace panel dress to $860 for a wool admiral’s coat. “The focus of this collection will be younger and more renegade, but always signature McQueen,” the designer said at the launch of McQ. His new venture is called McQ Alexander McQueen for Target.

“We’d always been approached by people like H&M and other high street [retailers] in England to do things,” McQueen said in a telephone interview. “I’m not very fond of following the norm. I didn’t want to follow Stella [McCartney] at H&M or Karl Lagerfeld at H&M. I didn’t see the point of it. I like to infiltrate an area that’s not really aware of me, as such.”

When Ed Filipowski, the publicist and events producer, suggested to McQueen that he work with Target, the designer said he was initially ambivalent. “I’ve never understood Target,” he said. But the idea of spreading his name appealed to the designer. “Apart from the East and West Coasts, my company doesn’t have any visibility in the U.S.,” he said. “I always liked the idea of people in the Midwest wearing my clothes. The idea of this upstart from London going where people haven’t heard of me, I think that was interesting to me. I think it’s quite adventurous of Target.”

Participating designers in the Target program will draw inspiration from a muse, creative element or collaborative partner. McQueen chose as his muse Leila Moss, the lead singer of The Duke Spirit, a British band known for mixing noise rock and grunge in the style of the late Eighties and Nineties (see sidebar). Moss’ style gave the clothes their rock ’n’ roll–punk vibe and hip Brit accents.

“I was looking for someone with the uttermost feeling of McQ,” said McQueen. “We use icons in British music, and she stood out. She’s a great-looking girl and has a personal style. It fell into the idea of the New York underground music scene. It was more the atmosphere she portrays.”

The collection has a muted color palette of black, white, gray and tan with accents of cobalt blue and bright pink. Studs and mesh give items an edge. There are studded jeans, shorts and denim jackets with asymmetrical closures, short tuxedo jackets and matching shorts, dresses in a blue and white painterly fabric, a one-shoulder dress in a gray-and-black zigzag pattern with a thick black belt, a T-shirt with the image of Moss; other members of The Duke Spirit are immortalized on a sleeveless jersey T-shirt. “The manufacturing is well finished and second to none in that price point,” McQueen said of the collection. “It’s not expensive at all, but you get the execution of a well-designed collection. Because of the use of materials and the feeling, [Target] knew where the collection would go.”

The designer’s favorite pieces in the line include “the pink and black pieces and the little prom dresses.”

A goal of McQ Alexander McQueen for Target is to attract a younger crowd to the designer’s collection. “It’s more about the music scene and fashion scene in the East End area, where I live,” said the designer, adding the point of the line is not to educate people about fashion, but rather, “it’s a feeling about the time we’re living in. If you start to give the whole of America that sense of where I’m from, the underground music scene, it’s not so much about a logo, it’s more about a feeling.”

McQueen’s Target collection was put in place before the recession began, but the retailer is confident of the strategy (for more on Target’s latest financial results, see related story). “We remain confident in our long-term strategy built on the premise of ‘Expect More, Pay Less,’” said a Target spokesman. “Part of that is differentiation. Our Designer Collaborations program will help differentiate us and give us a competitive edge.”

While Go International targets 18- to 24-year-old women, McQ Alexander McQueen for Target is positioned to an 18- to 34-year-old consumer. “We’ll find that both younger and older shoppers will dip into the collection,” the spokesman said. “One of the goals of Designer Collaborations and the heavy marketing push we have is to attract shoppers to our stores, including consumers who don’t shop our stores on a regular basis. We want to increase frequency and encourage first-time shoppers to Target.”

Target is not McQueen’s first collaboration — he launched the Alexander McQueen Puma range and Samsonite Black Label Alexander McQueen — but it is his most populist effort. “I cover specific areas of life,” the designer said. “Puma has that Generation X aspect with fashion and sneakers and Samsonite was more of an art-based project. Sometimes it’s the monetary thing we’re doing, but this is more about getting an idea of what I’m about across in the [U.S.],” he said.

McQueen doubted the Target line will bring more consumers to his core collection. “There is no way the main line could go to Middle America,” he said. “I’m not getting any [benefit from the Target association] for the main line. It’s taken me 15 years to get the concept of Alexander McQueen over there.”

On the other hand, the Target partnership “will open doors for McQ in other stores. This is a great taste of McQ in areas where it doesn’t exist. There could be some amazing things that come from this. We could change the whole concept of where we distribute.”

It’s taken McQueen a long time to reach the mass market and the designer doesn’t expect to do it again any time soon. “I have to find something in it to make me want to do it,” he said of the hookups. “Target is just one season. I don’t like to repeat myself. It’s a one-off and that makes it an eclectic collection. It’s great as pieces that will never exist again, and for me it’s a good marketing strategy. If I do it all the time, it dilutes the concept.”
story from wwd.com
 
photos from wwd as well.

Moss in a silk-screen cotton jersey T-shirt over cotton and spandex denim pants by McQ Alexander McQueen for Target. Boots by Guillotine Hinfray.

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Liela Moss in a cotton mesh dress and rayon tank from McQ Alexander McQueen for Target, her own unitard, a Tatty Divine necklace and shoes by Christian Louboutin.
 

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^looks quite cool,actually. god i wish he had made done men's!

really excellent point about his understanding of this level of shopping. he wasn't brought up wealthy nor did he just jump into fashion money-haul when he was beginning. he struggled early on. he and his friends probably even had to do the jumble sale thing.
 

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