Riccardo Tisci is Leaving Givenchy

[IloveDiorHomme]

Off-White is a copy of Vêtements which is a copy of Margiela.

A copycat of copycats should not get a job as creative director at Givenchy.

This industry is doomed...

 

[fashionista-ta]

How long do they think this Streetwear, instakids, no concept fashion era is gonna last for them to seriously consider on Virgil taking over Givenchy.


I literally feel like it's been alreayd going on for way too long. The whole schtick is now so big that it's basically a big caricature of itself. Clearly it's bound to implode sooner or later. Do they really want to bet on the longivity of all that nonsense and put Virgil at the helm of a couture house like Givenchy ?


Like Lola perfectly said there's some logic and good to it. First because Abloh has been kiki with the LVMH gang for awhile now. He also perfectly embodies this ridiculous state of fahsion and comes with a big crowd off cult followers. Most importantly though, after years of Tisci appropri... sorry referencing black culture to get Givenchy at the forefront it seems kinda logical to have a black man replace him and give some actual depth to all those inspirations. I also think it's about time that designers at the helm of big houses get more diverse. How can we expect runways, magazines and campaigns to be more diversed when there's almost absolutely no sign of diversity when it comes to creative directors ( at least at leading houses ).
Yet the problem is that this whole thing, and even the discussion that Virgil's nominations would create will just fall into a big pit of shallow buzz, saturated streetstyle trends and pretentiousness. I actually like many of the things he does at Off-White but he is not a designer. Tisci has been wack for years now but we can all agree on the fact the man is or was immensely talented. Virgil isn't and we all know that his nomination would come with a big pile of bullsh**. Fashion is already dead enough as it is.

Can we just please bring its magic back already ?

I guess you don't consider Balmain a leading house

I don't think they're thinking in terms of longevity at all, as we would hope. They've got their 3-year revolving door contracts in place, and I think they just don't care whether this lasts or not ... in three years they'll try to be riding whatever trend takes its place. Surely they're building a house of cards that will all come crashing down eventually?

I have to believe the pendulum's going to swing back. At least somewhere ... somehow ... please?

 

[TREVOFASHIONISTO]

Off-White is a copy of Vêtements which is a copy of Margiela.

A copycat of copycats should not get a job as creative director at Givenchy.

This industry is doomed...

I dont think Off-White and Vetements look anything alike. Similar target customer, yes but Off-White's collections are a lot more desirable than Vetements. I think Virgil has a better eye than Demna, but I dont think he has proven himself enough to be at Givenchy.

 

[liberty33r1b]

No, it will get worse and worse. And if one day Hedi Slimane goes to Chanel...then this will be the real sign of the death of fashion.

so true, my head hurts just thinking about it

 

[MissMagAddict]

Something of interest. Maybe to some. Last night, Columbia School of Architecture.

 

[jeremydante]

Off-White is a copy of Vêtements which is a copy of Margiela.

A copycat of copycats should not get a job as creative director at Givenchy.

This industry is doomed...

EVERYONE in fashion is a copy cat!

virgil is a pure inspiration from the street, and the street has ALWAYS inspired the runway. the vogue/wintour era of high low ushered into fashion, where we are now. i think Virgil would be the perfect person to follow Tisci at Givenchy.

He is the only one who can source concepts as they have without people crying cultural appropriation. and that is important, to keep fashion moving, and to move Givenchy into the direction it's been going with greater momentum.

I hope he takes it, off-white is a killer- it's thoroughly inspired and it's dope- to put it simple. a binder clip handbag? innovative. it turns ordinary into extraordinary. OFF-WHITE been killing it. it's the freshest collection in a while.

we are all inspired by collections and brands that came before us, it's the execution that separates the artists from the wannabes. we need more young, diverse designers. virgil has worked very hard for many years.

 

[GivenchyHomme]

EVERYONE in fashion is a copy cat!

virgil is a pure inspiration from the street, and the street has ALWAYS inspired the runway. the vogue/wintour era of high low ushered into fashion, where we are now. i think Virgil would be the perfect person to follow Tisci at Givenchy.

He is the only one who can source concepts as they have without people crying cultural appropriation. and that is important, to keep fashion moving, and to move Givenchy into the direction it's been going with greater momentum.

I hope he takes it, off-white is a killer- it's thoroughly inspired and it's dope- to put it simple. a binder clip handbag? innovative. it turns ordinary into extraordinary. OFF-WHITE been killing it. it's the freshest collection in a while.

we are all inspired by collections and brands that came before us, it's the execution that separates the artists from the wannabes. we need more young, diverse designers. virgil has worked very hard for many years.

This sounds like a very biased comment. Are you friends with the guy?

 

[IloveDiorHomme]

Virgil Abloh is a poser for me. And I mean it. His clothes just fit the zeitgeist, there is nothing behind them...

How will this guy deal with a haute-couture ateliers ? Putting Swarovski's on a hoodie ? Please...if that is your definition of "extraordinary", be my guest.

 

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Nevermind.

 

[MissMagAddict]

How will this guy deal with a haute-couture ateliers ?

Wing it.

 

[Phuel]

EVERYONE in fashion is a copy cat!

virgil is a pure inspiration from the street, and the street has ALWAYS inspired the runway. the vogue/wintour era of high low ushered into fashion, where we are now. i think Virgil would be the perfect person to follow Tisci at Givenchy.

He is the only one who can source concepts as they have without people crying cultural appropriation. and that is important, to keep fashion moving, and to move Givenchy into the direction it's been going with greater momentum.

I hope he takes it, off-white is a killer- it's thoroughly inspired and it's dope- to put it simple. a binder clip handbag? innovative. it turns ordinary into extraordinary. OFF-WHITE been killing it. it's the freshest collection in a while.

we are all inspired by collections and brands that came before us, it's the execution that separates the artists from the wannabes. we need more young, diverse designers. virgil has worked very hard for many years.

Only the lessers relying on pure hype are copycats. And this guy is a lesser copycat. Listening to him prop himself as some unique outsider disrupting the high fashion system— only to churn out fashion basics, is hilarious LOOL But good for him for fooling all these fashion victims and especially for copping the lead at Givenchy, I guess.

Back in the day, when innovators and visionaries took inspiration from streetfashion and youthquakes and made it all their own, they also had the daft backings of discipline and hard-earned traditional skills: Gaultier, Viv, Rei, Yohji, Margiela, Galliano, McQueen, Helmut, Anne, up to Theyskens, Tischi-- all took inspiration from the streets , and along with their respectable talent of daft tailoring, conjured magic… Nowadays— these new guys are raised on hype, SM-approved cool-factor and disposable gimmicks with absolutely no regard for longevity and layered references. It’s all surface and a literal reflection of vapid InstaCulture: They are like the creatives who source Tumblr, Pinterest etc for inspiration, and regurgitate wholesale what they ripped off with absolutely no unique input of their own. Sigh…

This guy… is exactly no different than any other trendy streeter-designer whom, at their best, offers watered down copies of Anne, Rick Owens and Helmut. But the reality is that he just sells basic fad-fashion at high fashion prices to fashion-victims. His is a paint-by-number offering of hoodies, flannels, backpacks, denim and graphic tees— down to the insufferable, faux-Metallica typeface and graphics for the tees, are as generic as they come. I don’t care how well made these basics may be— they’re still just overpriced basics for trendy kids; His appointment is as transparently, desperately seeking the approval of kids as they come— not that different than appointing the Public School duo at DKNY… And look how long that lasted…

 

[fashionista-ta]

The emperor's new hoodie cannot last forever. I only hope it's followed by a trend less vapid ...

 

[Phuel]

^^^ "The Emperor's New Hoodie" sounds like the title of a fashion doc someone should be making about all these overhyped lessers ruling high fashion LOL

 

[VogueDisciple93]

There is still a God!

Givenchy Denies Approaching Virgil Abloh for Design Post
The French fashion house said it would announce its new "creative organization" soon.

By Joelle Diderich on February 10, 2017


PARIS — All bets are off again regarding Riccardo Tisci’s potential successor at Givenchy.

The French fashion house on Friday denied mounting speculation that it had held talks with Off-White designer Virgil Abloh to take over as creative director of the brand.

This story first appeared in the February 11, 2017 issue of WWD. Subscribe Today.

“Givenchy’s new creative organization will be communicated shortly. Mr. Abloh was not approached by the house and is not to join the organization,” Givenchy said in a statement to WWD.

Market sources reported earlier this week that the French fashion house held discussions with Abloh, who is also Kanye West’s creative director. Contacted by WWD, Abloh declined to comment on Givenchy specifically, but reiterated his previously stated aim of eventually taking the reins of a leading luxury house.

Since Givenchy confirmed last week that Tisci was leaving after 12 years at the helm, rumors have swirled about who could replace him. Tisci is reportedly headed to Versace, and Givenchy has so far declined to comment on potential candidates.

Tisci’s exit is the latest tremor as creative upheaval spreads through the top ranks of international fashion.

Over the past year, Christian Dior, Yves Saint Laurent, Valentino, Marni, Lanvin, Chloé, Jil Sander, Ermenegildo Zegna, Roberto Cavalli, Oscar de la Renta, Salvatore Ferragamo and Carven have all made changes in creative leadership.

As Givenchy draws up its list of potential candidates, it could consider such well-known designers on the market as Hedi Slimane, Clare Waight Keller, Alber Elbaz, Peter Dundas, Rodolfo Paglialunga and Peter Copping. Buzzy designers like Valentino’s Pierpaolo Piccioli and Balmain’s Olivier Rousteing could also be on its radar.

Abloh, part of a rising generation of young designers that includes Demna Gvasalia at Balenciaga and Vetements and Gosha Rubchinskiy, has spoken in the past about how he would like to shake up the establishment.

“I have a litany of ideas that bring modern relevance, but also a financial vision on how these brands can be more successful in the space of luxury,” he told WWD in an interview last year. “Off-White is sort of my résumé and it’s my laboratory to experiment with these ideas to see which ones are valid.”

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I REALLY don't see Piccioli leaving Valentino right now and I would hope Rousteing gets no where near Givenchy, but his name is being thrown in for everywhere so many he is leavign Balmain soon.

 

[[Piece Of Me]]

Rousteing? That surely has to be a big joke. He seems like a nice guy, but he's no designer whatsoever.

 

[fashionista-ta]

I take it that probably there were talks, resulting from Virgil approaching them? Small, cautious sigh of relief ...

 

[Deleted member 130879]

I would love to see Olivier Rousteing out of Balmain but to be a full time celebrity/party goer not to got to another brand. Or maybe... yeah, maybe he could design for Kanye!

I'm relived to see Virgil's name dropped but sad that none of the rumours refer to a name that I could see fit. Although... Clare could be a surprise indeed. Copping could also be interesting.

And someone should tell Virgil that the "establishment" today is exactly him and all his street peers (Kanye, the Jenners, Gosha and Demna). They are the fashion dictators today, not Karl or any of the old houses.

 

[Scotty]

I don't mind if Rousteing leaves Balmain to to Givenchy. At least someone can finally make Balmain great again.

 

[Lola701]

Balmain is already ruined and as Christophe Decarnin is now at Faith Connexion, we don't need Rousteing to ruin another house.
Givenchy can still turn things around but Balmain is a lost cause IMO...
Please, no Rousteing anywhere. I would rather have Frida Giannini at Givenchy than him!

 

[Inlimbo]

I'm curious, why the even wrote Pierpaolo's name? Doesn't Valentino make around 1 billion?
Does Givenchy make more ? I really doubt it.