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We do have a thread on model members.
http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18990&highlight=model+members
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Since you can't post pictures I guess I could tell you what I sent in on my polaroids
Age: 17
Ht: 5'7.5
Bust: 30
Waist:21.5
Hips: 33.5
Haircolor: Dark Blonde
Eyecolor: Green
Age: 17
Ht: 5'7.5
Bust: 30
Waist:21.5
Hips: 33.5
Haircolor: Dark Blonde
Eyecolor: Green
I am jealous of your hips! What are open calls usually like? My old agent told me to always have a bathing suit with me to try on for them, but no one ever asked me to put it onCandiApple17 said:Since you can't post pictures I guess I could tell you what I sent in on my polaroids
Age: 17
Ht: 5'7.5
Bust: 30
Waist:21.5
Hips: 33.5
Haircolor: Dark Blonde
Eyecolor: Green
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Oh my goodness I despise my hips. I have like no behind at all lol
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CandiApple17 said:So you never get to go home at all if your working full time? They have to come and see you instead? What if you have a break in your work? I mean I live 4 hours from NY so it would be no hassle to drive back home or take a shutte home then fly back whenever needed. Hmm...if you never get to come home at all that kinda sucks.
Another quick question. What is an agency house like? Like how many girls are put in an agency hosue? In general are the houses like small/big apartments?
Sorry for all the questions....thanks
you get to go home full time modeling, at least in my experience. usually just for a few weeks while you wait to be placed somewhere else. or, if you're a supermodel, i'd reckon you only go home in august or on holidays when the business slows down.
in tokyo the model apartments were fabulous.
new york, not so good.
milan, yuck.
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i love the tokyo model apartments too!
you do have time to go home.. like sasha said.. it's not just work work work, even the top models get time off! ..usually for the top models the salary is well worth the time and effort
but if you really want to be a model.. you have to really want it.. devote a lot of time. patience is important, your time to shine will come, you just might have to wait
a lot of luck is involved.. don't EVER skip castings that the agency sends you too.. even the smallest, least-important one could be your big break.. you never know who will be where
you do have time to go home.. like sasha said.. it's not just work work work, even the top models get time off! ..usually for the top models the salary is well worth the time and effort
but if you really want to be a model.. you have to really want it.. devote a lot of time. patience is important, your time to shine will come, you just might have to wait
a lot of luck is involved.. don't EVER skip castings that the agency sends you too.. even the smallest, least-important one could be your big break.. you never know who will be where
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Oh good...I was so worried about that. If you don't mind me asking Sashatheelf what agency(s) are you signed with?
Is pretty enough?
Teen learns what it takes to be a model
By Susan Young, STAFF WRITER
PAULINA WAS BORN to be a model.
Her mother Anney Daugherty knew it the minute she gazed into those lovely brown eyes on that finely etched face and named her after one of the original supermodels, Paulina Porizkova.
The Livermore girl grew up to look much like her namesake, a beauty reminiscent of "The O.C.'s" Mischa Barton. Anyone who sees the 17-year-old's delicate Eastern European features, olive skin and lithe, 5-foot, 11-inch frame can picture Paulina making it as a covergirl.
But could she?
Is it enough just to be pretty, tall and slender?
In the wake of wannabe shows from "America's Next Top Model" to "American Idol," everyday folks are wondering if they have what it takes for a career in fashion, singing and even dancing. After all, on TV one minute you're an unknown, and the next you're a household name.
So we decided to find out by accompanying Paulina on the start of her quest to become a model.
Paulina, who will be a senior this fall at Livermore High School, keeps trim riding her jumper, Jack of Diamonds, and working with the family's three other horses. She's close to her devoted mom, who supports her dreams of becoming a model.
Often, Paulina helps out at home with her half-sister, Chloe, and half-brother, Nikko. Stepdad Tom Daugherty quietly supports Paulina's plan to become a model.
Paulina and her mom share a love of horses, and she looks like a natural beauty in her tight riding breeches and trendy T-shirts, wearing just a touch of make-up.
"I've always wanted to be a model, and people have told me that they think I could do it, but I'm just not sure," affable Paulina says. "I guess at least I'll find out if I should even try and pursue this."
Her mom Anney agrees.
"I'm glad she's making an effort to see if this is something she can do with her life," Daugherty says. "We'll do whatever it takes to give her a chance at this."
And if she receives only rejection?
"I guess I'll go to college and do something with horses," says Paulina with a smile. "But at least I'll know I gave modeling a shot."
Rules of the game
First lesson: Never pay for acting and modeling lessons unless you just want to do it for the fun of it. Reputable agents do not ask their clients for money.
Many shady outfits will hook up a model with a photographer to take those portfolio shots. More than likely, those photos will cost more than they should because those agencies get a cut of the action.
That being said, being a model is a business. You are the business and you have to act accordingly.
"You need to market yourself, and in order to do that, you need to have certain things," says agent Ryan Lippert, who works for the prestigious Look Model Agency in San Francisco. "You need to have some good photos taken, you need to have some business cards made. Like any other business, there are expenses. You have to spend money, but you have to spend it on the right things."
But Lippert says if a model needs a little guidence in regards to hair and makeup, the agency will provide that at no charge.
There are a number of reputable agencies in the Bay Area. Just check the phone book and call for an appointment. But don't give anyone money for something up front.
Some, such as Look, hold weekly open casting calls. Look requires that its female models be at least 13 years old and 5-7 to 5-11. Male models need to be 15 or older and 5-11 to 6-3. They ask models to bring to the call current snapshots and/or a portfolio. The dress is casual and the wannabe models should wear just light makeup or none at all.
Excited to find out about the Look casting call, Paulina heads to Stoneridge mall in Pleasanton to pick out what she had heard "America's Next Top Model" host Tyra Banks suggested for auditions: nice-fitting jeans, an unadorned top and high heels.
Turns out, that's what Jada Ogden, an agent at Look, also prefers.
"Nothing makes your legs look better than jeans and high heels, although you can also wear a skirt with heels," Ogden says. "And we don't want to see you with makeup. We need to see what your skin looks like and what you look like without makeup."
At trendy Hollister, Paulina navigates through the cramped aisles on her hunt for jeans that fit. Turns out that even size 4 bodies have a hard time finding clothes.
"It's so frustrating," she sighs. "I'll find something I really like, but they never have it in my size."
Finally she selects a tight-fitting pair that flatter her long legs. Her mom watches nearby, volunteering to pick up the pricey tab as part of Paulina's birthday present.
Finding shoes prove to be a much tougher task for Paulina's size 11 feet. She spots the perfect shoes at Nordstrom — Steve Maddens she had been coveting since seeing them in a magazine spread. The "come hither" beige open-toed, sequin sparklers look great — but none are available in her size.
She hits every store in the mall, from Steve Madden to Macy's, but not a single size 11 can be found.
"It's so hard to find shoes in her size," says mom Anney as she sifts through the scant offerings. "If I find a pair she likes, I snap it up."
Mom and daughter settle on two pairs: a black strappy pair and a black pump adorned with embroidered flowers.
The excitment around the shopping trip and newspaper photo shoot were so rough on Paulina that she was sick to her stomach the night before. But the shoot went better than she expected, and Paulina ended up having a good time with the photographer, who eased her into relaxing a bit. By the time she went to her audition at Look, Paulina had mastered her queasy tummy.
CONT>
Teen learns what it takes to be a model
By Susan Young, STAFF WRITER
PAULINA WAS BORN to be a model.
Her mother Anney Daugherty knew it the minute she gazed into those lovely brown eyes on that finely etched face and named her after one of the original supermodels, Paulina Porizkova.
The Livermore girl grew up to look much like her namesake, a beauty reminiscent of "The O.C.'s" Mischa Barton. Anyone who sees the 17-year-old's delicate Eastern European features, olive skin and lithe, 5-foot, 11-inch frame can picture Paulina making it as a covergirl.
But could she?
Is it enough just to be pretty, tall and slender?
In the wake of wannabe shows from "America's Next Top Model" to "American Idol," everyday folks are wondering if they have what it takes for a career in fashion, singing and even dancing. After all, on TV one minute you're an unknown, and the next you're a household name.
So we decided to find out by accompanying Paulina on the start of her quest to become a model.
Paulina, who will be a senior this fall at Livermore High School, keeps trim riding her jumper, Jack of Diamonds, and working with the family's three other horses. She's close to her devoted mom, who supports her dreams of becoming a model.
Often, Paulina helps out at home with her half-sister, Chloe, and half-brother, Nikko. Stepdad Tom Daugherty quietly supports Paulina's plan to become a model.
Paulina and her mom share a love of horses, and she looks like a natural beauty in her tight riding breeches and trendy T-shirts, wearing just a touch of make-up.
"I've always wanted to be a model, and people have told me that they think I could do it, but I'm just not sure," affable Paulina says. "I guess at least I'll find out if I should even try and pursue this."
Her mom Anney agrees.
"I'm glad she's making an effort to see if this is something she can do with her life," Daugherty says. "We'll do whatever it takes to give her a chance at this."
And if she receives only rejection?
"I guess I'll go to college and do something with horses," says Paulina with a smile. "But at least I'll know I gave modeling a shot."
Rules of the game
First lesson: Never pay for acting and modeling lessons unless you just want to do it for the fun of it. Reputable agents do not ask their clients for money.
Many shady outfits will hook up a model with a photographer to take those portfolio shots. More than likely, those photos will cost more than they should because those agencies get a cut of the action.
That being said, being a model is a business. You are the business and you have to act accordingly.
"You need to market yourself, and in order to do that, you need to have certain things," says agent Ryan Lippert, who works for the prestigious Look Model Agency in San Francisco. "You need to have some good photos taken, you need to have some business cards made. Like any other business, there are expenses. You have to spend money, but you have to spend it on the right things."
But Lippert says if a model needs a little guidence in regards to hair and makeup, the agency will provide that at no charge.
There are a number of reputable agencies in the Bay Area. Just check the phone book and call for an appointment. But don't give anyone money for something up front.
Some, such as Look, hold weekly open casting calls. Look requires that its female models be at least 13 years old and 5-7 to 5-11. Male models need to be 15 or older and 5-11 to 6-3. They ask models to bring to the call current snapshots and/or a portfolio. The dress is casual and the wannabe models should wear just light makeup or none at all.
Excited to find out about the Look casting call, Paulina heads to Stoneridge mall in Pleasanton to pick out what she had heard "America's Next Top Model" host Tyra Banks suggested for auditions: nice-fitting jeans, an unadorned top and high heels.
Turns out, that's what Jada Ogden, an agent at Look, also prefers.
"Nothing makes your legs look better than jeans and high heels, although you can also wear a skirt with heels," Ogden says. "And we don't want to see you with makeup. We need to see what your skin looks like and what you look like without makeup."
At trendy Hollister, Paulina navigates through the cramped aisles on her hunt for jeans that fit. Turns out that even size 4 bodies have a hard time finding clothes.
"It's so frustrating," she sighs. "I'll find something I really like, but they never have it in my size."
Finally she selects a tight-fitting pair that flatter her long legs. Her mom watches nearby, volunteering to pick up the pricey tab as part of Paulina's birthday present.
Finding shoes prove to be a much tougher task for Paulina's size 11 feet. She spots the perfect shoes at Nordstrom — Steve Maddens she had been coveting since seeing them in a magazine spread. The "come hither" beige open-toed, sequin sparklers look great — but none are available in her size.
She hits every store in the mall, from Steve Madden to Macy's, but not a single size 11 can be found.
"It's so hard to find shoes in her size," says mom Anney as she sifts through the scant offerings. "If I find a pair she likes, I snap it up."
Mom and daughter settle on two pairs: a black strappy pair and a black pump adorned with embroidered flowers.
The excitment around the shopping trip and newspaper photo shoot were so rough on Paulina that she was sick to her stomach the night before. But the shoot went better than she expected, and Paulina ended up having a good time with the photographer, who eased her into relaxing a bit. By the time she went to her audition at Look, Paulina had mastered her queasy tummy.
CONT>
Look is famous for having discovered such talents as Berkeley's Rebecca Romijn and San Francisco native Carre Otis. In fact, Otis' sister Chrisse now works at Look in the runway division.
Owner Marie-Christine Mirabaud Kollock has been in the business for more than quarter century. Her upscale clients include Gucci and Donna Karan.
"Modeling is really just a business like any other, it just looks more exciting," Kollock says. "The good models are very disciplined, they take criticism and understand they need to be independent contractors for themselves."
In other words, beauty alone won't take you far.
"Being a model is about being a professional who works hard at their job," Kollock says, adding that she's innundated by handsome people who don't approach this as a business. "I'm going to dedicate a chapter in my memoirs titled 'Everyone says I should be a model.'"
She's particularly incensed by high-priced modeling schools.
"They send their students to these conventions to meet with agents, but almost no one actually gets an agent," Kollock says. "And the ones that do would have gotten an agent on their own if they had just spent their time making appointments to see agents."
She says her own children were never very interested in becoming models, although she smiles as she says she suspects her son may have used the fact that his parents owned a modeling agency as an opening line.
"Every mother thinks their child is beautiful, but what a mother thinks and what a business thinks can often be two separate things," says Kollock. "We have to cater to what our customers want, or we would be out of business."
The bottom line is that the models are a commodity sold to a business, which wants that commodity to boost its bottom line.
She says she no longer represents children because, although most parents like to say that it is the child's dream to become a model or actress, Kollock believes that no 3-year-old dreams of this life.
"One mother called me and said she had a 2-month-old and wanted to know how soon she would get paid," Kollock says. "Another called one summer and said she had twins and wanted to know how soon we could book them. I asked how old they were, and she told me she wasn't due until October!"
Kollock warns against parents mortgaging their homes to pay for modeling schools, because even if their child gets some work modeling, it probably isn't going to turn into a million-dollar career.
"I tell people to keep their existing job and work around their career in modeling," Kollock says.
Only stars make big money
While a model may make
$1,500 to $2,000 for a catalog photo shoot, most of the basic stable aren't booked consistantly enough to make enough money to live comfortably. Only the stars can do that.
Speaking of stars, Kollock says that many models are losing jobs to celebrity models from Britney Spears to Jessica Simpson. She says both are "pretty little nothing bubble gum girls who are marketed and packaged beautifully."
"There are so many beautiful people out there. What you are really doing when you step in the door is selling yourself," says Lippert, from Look. "Most of the time, it's pure personality. I'm not looking for anything specific when someone walks through the door. It's the old 'I'll know it when I see it.'"
Kollock says she knew exactly what kind of explosive talent Rebecca Romjin had the minute she walked through the door.
"It wasn't just her beauty. She filled the room, she had star quality," Kollock recalls. "She was smart and charismatic. Now that's what it takes to become a top model."
It's moments like that that keep agents excited about their careers.
"We are always looking for that next great face, that person we know will be a star," Lippert says. "I dream I'll be walking down the street and discover that person."
Lippert says he doesn't usually tell people who come in during the weekly casting calls why they have been rejected, although he will give them a quick rundown if pressed.
"One mother came in and wanted me to explain exactly why we weren't interested in her young daughter, and I said 'You want me to critique her right in front of her?'" Lippert says. "I just can't do that."
A model must naturally have flawless skin, full lips and eyes spaced evenly apart. And all those features must photograph well.
Paulina and her friend Cora Treadway, 22, also interested in modeling, walked into the open casting call hoping — like everyone else in the room — that they would be walking out with a modeling contract.
In the tiny waiting room, they made small-talk with the other hopefuls. Each had various portfolios, some in gorgeous leather covers with professional photos and cover letters and resumes. Others carried just a binder with a few shots. One young man looked like Brad Pitt's just-as-hunky younger brother. Another like a surfer fresh off a morning hitting the waves.
Paulina seemed to hold her own against these hopefuls, although clearly the Brad boy was a notch above the handsome competition.
One young woman was dressed like she had just stepped off a high-fashion runway, another like she just sauntered off of BART.
Each got the same treatment: Lippert took their portfolios and went into another room, flipping through each. He then called each in for a short interview, giving a thumbs-down much more often than a thumbs-up.
"I know when they walk in the door if they have that certain quality," Lippert says. "But I always look through their portfolios and talk to them a little. They went to a lot of work, and they deserve that courtesy."
One had a fabulous portfolio with lovely photos, but, Lippert says, in person the subject of those photos was just another pretty girl.
Brad boy got asked back. He clearly had that certain quality.
Then it was Paulina's turn.
She nervously entered the room with Lippert, who tried to put her at ease. She talked about being born to be a model. After all, she was named for Paulina Porizkova. Sort of her destiny.
But she couldn't quite meet him eye-to-eye. She looked down at her shoes, perhaps thinking that if she just had those Steve Maddens on her feet, she would have been given a magical power boost.
For Paulina, it was a pass.
"That's OK," says an upbeat Paulina right afterward. "I'll just keep trying until I think that it's time to try something else."
When mom Anney, who waited downstairs for Paulina to finish her audition, found out, momma bear stepped in.
"Did they say why?" she asked with a bit of edge to her voice. "You looked great. Why did they say no? That's just crazy."
Lippert described Paulina as a homecoming queen type, the pretty girl everyone says should become a model.
"But being pretty isn't enough," Lippert says.
- What's next: We'll follow Paulina later this month when she heads to Los Angeles, hoping to get some pointers from the people who work with the show "America's Next Top Model."
- Look's open call for new faces is held weekly from 2:30 to 4 p.m. Mondays, except holidays, at 166 Geary St., 14th floor, in San Francisco.
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So many of you have ask about what open calls were like that I thought I would post this.
Owner Marie-Christine Mirabaud Kollock has been in the business for more than quarter century. Her upscale clients include Gucci and Donna Karan.
"Modeling is really just a business like any other, it just looks more exciting," Kollock says. "The good models are very disciplined, they take criticism and understand they need to be independent contractors for themselves."
In other words, beauty alone won't take you far.
"Being a model is about being a professional who works hard at their job," Kollock says, adding that she's innundated by handsome people who don't approach this as a business. "I'm going to dedicate a chapter in my memoirs titled 'Everyone says I should be a model.'"
She's particularly incensed by high-priced modeling schools.
"They send their students to these conventions to meet with agents, but almost no one actually gets an agent," Kollock says. "And the ones that do would have gotten an agent on their own if they had just spent their time making appointments to see agents."
She says her own children were never very interested in becoming models, although she smiles as she says she suspects her son may have used the fact that his parents owned a modeling agency as an opening line.
"Every mother thinks their child is beautiful, but what a mother thinks and what a business thinks can often be two separate things," says Kollock. "We have to cater to what our customers want, or we would be out of business."
The bottom line is that the models are a commodity sold to a business, which wants that commodity to boost its bottom line.
She says she no longer represents children because, although most parents like to say that it is the child's dream to become a model or actress, Kollock believes that no 3-year-old dreams of this life.
"One mother called me and said she had a 2-month-old and wanted to know how soon she would get paid," Kollock says. "Another called one summer and said she had twins and wanted to know how soon we could book them. I asked how old they were, and she told me she wasn't due until October!"
Kollock warns against parents mortgaging their homes to pay for modeling schools, because even if their child gets some work modeling, it probably isn't going to turn into a million-dollar career.
"I tell people to keep their existing job and work around their career in modeling," Kollock says.
Only stars make big money
While a model may make
$1,500 to $2,000 for a catalog photo shoot, most of the basic stable aren't booked consistantly enough to make enough money to live comfortably. Only the stars can do that.
Speaking of stars, Kollock says that many models are losing jobs to celebrity models from Britney Spears to Jessica Simpson. She says both are "pretty little nothing bubble gum girls who are marketed and packaged beautifully."
"There are so many beautiful people out there. What you are really doing when you step in the door is selling yourself," says Lippert, from Look. "Most of the time, it's pure personality. I'm not looking for anything specific when someone walks through the door. It's the old 'I'll know it when I see it.'"
Kollock says she knew exactly what kind of explosive talent Rebecca Romjin had the minute she walked through the door.
"It wasn't just her beauty. She filled the room, she had star quality," Kollock recalls. "She was smart and charismatic. Now that's what it takes to become a top model."
It's moments like that that keep agents excited about their careers.
"We are always looking for that next great face, that person we know will be a star," Lippert says. "I dream I'll be walking down the street and discover that person."
Lippert says he doesn't usually tell people who come in during the weekly casting calls why they have been rejected, although he will give them a quick rundown if pressed.
"One mother came in and wanted me to explain exactly why we weren't interested in her young daughter, and I said 'You want me to critique her right in front of her?'" Lippert says. "I just can't do that."
A model must naturally have flawless skin, full lips and eyes spaced evenly apart. And all those features must photograph well.
Paulina and her friend Cora Treadway, 22, also interested in modeling, walked into the open casting call hoping — like everyone else in the room — that they would be walking out with a modeling contract.
In the tiny waiting room, they made small-talk with the other hopefuls. Each had various portfolios, some in gorgeous leather covers with professional photos and cover letters and resumes. Others carried just a binder with a few shots. One young man looked like Brad Pitt's just-as-hunky younger brother. Another like a surfer fresh off a morning hitting the waves.
Paulina seemed to hold her own against these hopefuls, although clearly the Brad boy was a notch above the handsome competition.
One young woman was dressed like she had just stepped off a high-fashion runway, another like she just sauntered off of BART.
Each got the same treatment: Lippert took their portfolios and went into another room, flipping through each. He then called each in for a short interview, giving a thumbs-down much more often than a thumbs-up.
"I know when they walk in the door if they have that certain quality," Lippert says. "But I always look through their portfolios and talk to them a little. They went to a lot of work, and they deserve that courtesy."
One had a fabulous portfolio with lovely photos, but, Lippert says, in person the subject of those photos was just another pretty girl.
Brad boy got asked back. He clearly had that certain quality.
Then it was Paulina's turn.
She nervously entered the room with Lippert, who tried to put her at ease. She talked about being born to be a model. After all, she was named for Paulina Porizkova. Sort of her destiny.
But she couldn't quite meet him eye-to-eye. She looked down at her shoes, perhaps thinking that if she just had those Steve Maddens on her feet, she would have been given a magical power boost.
For Paulina, it was a pass.
"That's OK," says an upbeat Paulina right afterward. "I'll just keep trying until I think that it's time to try something else."
When mom Anney, who waited downstairs for Paulina to finish her audition, found out, momma bear stepped in.
"Did they say why?" she asked with a bit of edge to her voice. "You looked great. Why did they say no? That's just crazy."
Lippert described Paulina as a homecoming queen type, the pretty girl everyone says should become a model.
"But being pretty isn't enough," Lippert says.
- What's next: We'll follow Paulina later this month when she heads to Los Angeles, hoping to get some pointers from the people who work with the show "America's Next Top Model."
- Look's open call for new faces is held weekly from 2:30 to 4 p.m. Mondays, except holidays, at 166 Geary St., 14th floor, in San Francisco.
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So many of you have ask about what open calls were like that I thought I would post this.
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Thanks for posting that article, model_mom, very interesting. It says at the bottom: "What's next: We'll follow Paulina later this month when she heads to Los Angeles, hoping to get some pointers from the people who work with the show "America's Next Top Model." Is this article you posted new? Or has that second article been printed already? I would be interested to read that.
At first I thought it was nice that the guy in the article refused to critique the girl he mentioned in front of her, but after I thought about it, it may not have been. When I went for the open call at major model management last week I was very appreciative of every critique she gave me and she told me to come back in a few months when I fixed the stuff. I truly valued that, because I really paid attention and now I know what I need to fix to improve my chances of ever getting signed.
At first I thought it was nice that the guy in the article refused to critique the girl he mentioned in front of her, but after I thought about it, it may not have been. When I went for the open call at major model management last week I was very appreciative of every critique she gave me and she told me to come back in a few months when I fixed the stuff. I truly valued that, because I really paid attention and now I know what I need to fix to improve my chances of ever getting signed.
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model_mom said:
Sorry, I didn't realize I was making it look like you said that. I know it wasn't you saying that, but it was in the article and I just wanted to make the point that very few models have truly perfect skin; makeup and lighting have a lot to do with it
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No problem but you are so right. A lot of the models may start out with beautiful skin but after a few show seasons it's hard to keep it that way. It's amazing but the girls from the Eastern bloc countries seem to maintain their beautiful complexions.????
A lot of the models may start out with beautiful skin but after a few show seasons it's hard to keep it that way. It's amazing but the girls from the Eastern bloc countries seem to maintain their beautiful complexions.????rhiannonmars
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I also think there are alot of models with small lips, they are like doll lips, adorable. I just can't follow these hard and fast rules of perfection. Perfection sometimes is a unique feature that does not follow the rules. (big forehead, small lips, rounder nose, strange eyes)
rhiannonmars said:
very true...I think that when they list model qualities, though, they mean that these are "ideal" features and a model should be "ideal" looking. Obviously there are tons of models that don't have a certain feature considered "ideal", but they do have that "it" quality that drwas you to them. I hope this makes sense, maybe it didn't, but it makes sense in my mind, just not sure how well it translated into words.
As for the "flawless skin", the first thing I thought when I looked at those pictures was what model_mom said, that it's probably caused by stress + all that show makeup. I have experience somewhat with this; normally my face is breakout-free, but I was in a play last year and we did it 5 days straight. 5 days of makeup, plus practice, plus the stress of it, did make me break out. I can imagine how bad it can get for these models. A local play for 5 days is nothing compared to doing weeks of shows that the whole world watches, getting very little sleep and wearing heavy, heavy makeup like they do for some shows... I mean, I remember seeing that picture of Maria carla a while ago and thinking, "Whoa," then I realized it's probably not how her skin usually is.
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