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Katie Talks Tom to W, Poses in Bridal Gown
Jul 8, 1:02 PM EST
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The Associated Press
NEW YORK -- The future Mrs. Tom Cruise has already tried on at least one wedding gown. Katie Holmes appears in the August issue of W magazine posing in a Commes des Garcons wedding dress and continuing to gush about her fiance. The couple, who went public with their relationship in April, haven't announced a date for their marriage.
"Tom and I will always be in our honeymoon phase," Holmes says in W, on newsstands July 22. In the interview, a theme emerges with many similar comments, including "Tom is the most incredible man in the world."
Cruise, 42, and Holmes, 26, became engaged last month after the "War of the Worlds" star proposed at the Eiffel Tower in Paris. Holmes, who co-stars in "Batman Begins," has said she's taking lessons in Cruise's faith of Scientology.
"I'm learning to celebrate my own spirit, my own being," she says.
During the W interview, the actress wouldn't part from Jessica Rodriguez, who is described as her "Scientologist chaperone." Rodriguez's role in Holmes' life remains vague, though Rodriguez says they're "just best friends" since meeting around the time Holmes met Cruise.
"You adore him," Rodriguez told Holmes when the actress was at a loss for words to describe her love.
Not to forget their day jobs, Holmes says she wants to make a movie with Cruise.
"That would be such an honor," she says. "Such an honor."
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Jul 8, 1:02 PM EST
Photo gallery: Tom and Katie
The Associated Press
NEW YORK -- The future Mrs. Tom Cruise has already tried on at least one wedding gown. Katie Holmes appears in the August issue of W magazine posing in a Commes des Garcons wedding dress and continuing to gush about her fiance. The couple, who went public with their relationship in April, haven't announced a date for their marriage.
"Tom and I will always be in our honeymoon phase," Holmes says in W, on newsstands July 22. In the interview, a theme emerges with many similar comments, including "Tom is the most incredible man in the world."
Cruise, 42, and Holmes, 26, became engaged last month after the "War of the Worlds" star proposed at the Eiffel Tower in Paris. Holmes, who co-stars in "Batman Begins," has said she's taking lessons in Cruise's faith of Scientology.
"I'm learning to celebrate my own spirit, my own being," she says.
During the W interview, the actress wouldn't part from Jessica Rodriguez, who is described as her "Scientologist chaperone." Rodriguez's role in Holmes' life remains vague, though Rodriguez says they're "just best friends" since meeting around the time Holmes met Cruise.
"You adore him," Rodriguez told Holmes when the actress was at a loss for words to describe her love.
Not to forget their day jobs, Holmes says she wants to make a movie with Cruise.
"That would be such an honor," she says. "Such an honor."
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8GreenEyes8
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wow, that article is just strange. This is getting way too weird- I'm really getting worried for katie... or "Kate" 
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God, they are way too creepy. C-R-E-E-P-Y!!! 
too bad Cruise is againt psychiatry because, let me tell you, he could use some help there.
too bad Cruise is againt psychiatry because, let me tell you, he could use some help there.
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model_mom said:
Chaperone?Isn't she like 26?Obviously this chaperone is also her mind.Can't possible let her htink on her own now can we?
Not to forget their day jobs, Holmes says she wants to make a movie with Cruise.
"That would be such an honor," she says. "Such an honor."
"I'm learning to celebrate my own spirit,my own being,"
What she really means is she is learning to celebrate what Tom thinks her spirit should be and what Tom thinks her own being is.
honestly *shudders* I wonder what a psychiatrist's opinion on this whole facade would beBrazilian Girl said:God, they are way too creepy. C-R-E-E-P-Y!!!
too bad Cruise is againt psychiatry because, let me tell you, he could use some help there.
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^lol, totally...
Now I just read this entire thread, and all these articles that were posted about her being missing, and Scientology... This whole thing is just crazy, I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it.
My bet is that it's all because of Scientology, even more than box office, hiding the fact that he's gay, etc.
It's a crazy cult, I can't believe these things we hear about it, and also quite scary and dangerous, I would say. Making people have abortions and saying they can't take prescripted meds for their diseases (vitamins and exercises my a$$) ??
It makes me wonder even more than I already do: what kind of world do we live in?
Now I just read this entire thread, and all these articles that were posted about her being missing, and Scientology... This whole thing is just crazy, I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it.
My bet is that it's all because of Scientology, even more than box office, hiding the fact that he's gay, etc.
It's a crazy cult, I can't believe these things we hear about it, and also quite scary and dangerous, I would say. Making people have abortions and saying they can't take prescripted meds for their diseases (vitamins and exercises my a$$) ??
It makes me wonder even more than I already do: what kind of world do we live in?
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I just read in a magazine today that Beck is a scientologist. I had no idea. But he's not a weirdo scientologist like Tom... right? 
But Beck is so cool!!
But Beck is so cool!! I'm just going to say this for the sake of playing devil's advocate:
Perhaps threads like this should stick to the weirdness of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes' relationship, minus all the scientology bashing.
As Scientology is categorized as a religion (Like Catholicism, Judaism, etc...) , it might not be appropriate (or within TFS posting rules) to maliciously comment about its practises.
just a thought.
Perhaps threads like this should stick to the weirdness of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes' relationship, minus all the scientology bashing.
As Scientology is categorized as a religion (Like Catholicism, Judaism, etc...) , it might not be appropriate (or within TFS posting rules) to maliciously comment about its practises.
just a thought.
Maybe that's true - but wouldn't everyone be having a sh*t fit if we started going on and on about how "so and so" was a bad example of a "good Christian", or "this guy" gave "Jewish people" a bad name.
Hey man - I've always thought Tom Cruise was a dinko - but I'm totally shocked that in a fashion forum, we get berated if we talk about someone's weight issues - and not when we all start maligning religions...
and I would be saying this if it had been ANY religion - not just Scientology.
Hey man - I've always thought Tom Cruise was a dinko - but I'm totally shocked that in a fashion forum, we get berated if we talk about someone's weight issues - and not when we all start maligning religions...
and I would be saying this if it had been ANY religion - not just Scientology.
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I do have to agree that this is all crazy. I only know a few things about scientology, but Tom Cruise defitnitely makes it look like a cult. Having Katie holmes followed and 'supervised' by a scientology chaperone (not just during the interview.
Example
http://www.smh.com.au/news/people/holmes-never-alone/2005/07/04/1120329371482.html?oneclick=true
Holmes 'never alone'
July 4, 2005
Since Katie Holmes hooked up with Tom Cruise and the Scientologists, she's reportedly not allowed to be alone - ever.
When Holmes accompanied Cruise to a recent taping of The View, eyebrows were raised when she wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom alone.
At one point, Cruise asked where the bathroom was and "took Katie with him into the men's room", an insider told the New York Post.
Later, when Holmes needed to go, "three Scientologists followed her in".
A rep for the show said: "We don't follow guests to the bathroom."
Meanwhile, some star-watchers were also concerned because Holmes "looks like she hasn't slept in weeks".
If this relationship is just a publicity stunt or fake (which I believe it is), how long can they keep it up.
Example
http://www.smh.com.au/news/people/holmes-never-alone/2005/07/04/1120329371482.html?oneclick=true
Holmes 'never alone'
July 4, 2005
Since Katie Holmes hooked up with Tom Cruise and the Scientologists, she's reportedly not allowed to be alone - ever.
When Holmes accompanied Cruise to a recent taping of The View, eyebrows were raised when she wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom alone.
At one point, Cruise asked where the bathroom was and "took Katie with him into the men's room", an insider told the New York Post.
Later, when Holmes needed to go, "three Scientologists followed her in".
A rep for the show said: "We don't follow guests to the bathroom."
Meanwhile, some star-watchers were also concerned because Holmes "looks like she hasn't slept in weeks".
If this relationship is just a publicity stunt or fake (which I believe it is), how long can they keep it up.
fezbatik said:
Well take a look at the Jessica Simpson thread...We've jumped on the band-wagon of her, her father, and her religion, and taking off her clothes (or was that just b/c she was a hypocrite about it?)...
Well either way, just about everyone agrees that he's gone batty. He has made both his movie and Batman Begin's a Scientology World Tour and in my opinion that is wrong regardless of what religion it is. I can't stand it when people try to shove their own beliefs down other people's throats
It make him and his religion look silly when in fact his religion may be a good choice for people...but most of us will never buy into due to his crazy antics.
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I think you have a point fezbatik, I really do.
But, you know, I think everyone's just kinda giving their opinions about all the stuff we've been reading about it... This particular subject is very controversial, people end up having something to say, I guess. And it's something that has a lot to do with the relationship itself, apparently, so everyone's speculating.
And most people are just sincerely scared by his behaviour (like crucifying Booke Shields or trying to force Scarlett Johansson into it).
What I get from all of this is that Tom Cruise at least makes it look like scientology is something crazy, maybe people would be more opened to it if he wasn't acting the way he is.
But, you know, I think everyone's just kinda giving their opinions about all the stuff we've been reading about it... This particular subject is very controversial, people end up having something to say, I guess. And it's something that has a lot to do with the relationship itself, apparently, so everyone's speculating.
And most people are just sincerely scared by his behaviour (like crucifying Booke Shields or trying to force Scarlett Johansson into it).
What I get from all of this is that Tom Cruise at least makes it look like scientology is something crazy, maybe people would be more opened to it if he wasn't acting the way he is.
Oh, I absolutely understand and agree that Tom Cruise has gone off his rocker - and being affiliated with Scientology isn't really doing much for their PR ..
I was just concerned that once the flood gates were open for people to critisize religious dogma in this forum - that we would begin to think it was acceptable to do it always, about all of them.
Some religions don't believe in birth control - some don't believe in rights for women - some make you hang out with creepy sidekicks with fake names...hey man, to each his own.
peace out.
I was just concerned that once the flood gates were open for people to critisize religious dogma in this forum - that we would begin to think it was acceptable to do it always, about all of them.
Some religions don't believe in birth control - some don't believe in rights for women - some make you hang out with creepy sidekicks with fake names...hey man, to each his own.
peace out.
Religions are open to criticism I believe. When one looks at them for what they are, and not make sweeping classifications. For example, I think criticizing the pope's view on condom use in light of the AIDS epidemic in Africa (where they are urging him to tell catholics there to use condoms) is responsible criticism.
Religions that are harsh on women as well are criticized, as long as the criticism goes towards the particular act, and not the religion itself, it can be justified. Just because its' a part of the religion to stone women to death for certain misdemeanors doesn't mean we should be hands off about it.
Anyway, scientology does have some strange bits to it. They have been linked to fraud, forced abortions, mob-style treatment of it's members (intimidation tactics etc). Criticizing their beliefs is a different story, people should be hands off about that, but their treatment of their own congregation should be open to observation and criticism. Sometimes that's the only way people can be protected from religious abuses.
Or is the argument that we just shouldn't make comments on it here?
Religions that are harsh on women as well are criticized, as long as the criticism goes towards the particular act, and not the religion itself, it can be justified. Just because its' a part of the religion to stone women to death for certain misdemeanors doesn't mean we should be hands off about it.
Anyway, scientology does have some strange bits to it. They have been linked to fraud, forced abortions, mob-style treatment of it's members (intimidation tactics etc). Criticizing their beliefs is a different story, people should be hands off about that, but their treatment of their own congregation should be open to observation and criticism. Sometimes that's the only way people can be protected from religious abuses.
Or is the argument that we just shouldn't make comments on it here?
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