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^^ Awww shucks thanks.
I did find out what countries are onto the Scienos
"among the countries that do not consider Scientology a religion are Belgium, France, Germany, Great Britain, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, and Spain, as well as Israel and Mexico."
So how come the US and Canada caved and let them call themselves a religion?
I can't wait until next week when this freakshow sham wedding has ended. Every day this week the entertainment shows have been falling all over themselves about this wedding. Grr, It annoys me that at the very least they are pretending to buy into this crap.
Did anyone see The Today Show this morning? They asked Matt if he got an invite and he said yeah, it was addressed to "matt matt matt matt matt". I will forever love Matt for calling Tom on his lunacy and letting the public at large see what an raving loon and control freak he is.[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][/FONT]
I did find out what countries are onto the Scienos
"among the countries that do not consider Scientology a religion are Belgium, France, Germany, Great Britain, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, and Spain, as well as Israel and Mexico."
So how come the US and Canada caved and let them call themselves a religion?
I can't wait until next week when this freakshow sham wedding has ended. Every day this week the entertainment shows have been falling all over themselves about this wedding. Grr, It annoys me that at the very least they are pretending to buy into this crap.
Did anyone see The Today Show this morning? They asked Matt if he got an invite and he said yeah, it was addressed to "matt matt matt matt matt". I will forever love Matt for calling Tom on his lunacy and letting the public at large see what an raving loon and control freak he is.[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][/FONT]
^ personally I don't care for the whole scientology thing. But who is to say it's not a religion? I can say the same for all the other so-called religions out there....let it be....let people believe what they want to believe.
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The place they picked is soooo beautiful in Rome!!! I heard that Armani designed the wedding dress...
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so if the religion is indeed illegal in italy, their marriage won't be legal at all, right?
BodhiTree said:
I actually agree with you a great deal in theory. If you look at any religion and break it down, it looks "weird". I have no problems with weirdness in the eyes of others when it comes to religion - people can worship whatever and however they want. My anger at Scientology comes from what I view as their criminal actions. Is there another religion that demands you never speak to or see your family and friends again if they say anything negative whatsoever (and negative=not embracing and joining themselves) because they are "Suppressive Persons" and are trying to destroy you? Is there another religion that charges it's members for each new level of enlightenment, and if you don't pay every cent you have by turning over all your bank accounts and taking out loans to give to the Church, you don't get the knowledge, and so are not saved? If there is, then I will be fair. They'll be on my fake religion sh!tlist, right up there with the Scienos. They destroy lives through isolation and brainwashing. Sorry, auditing. And profit from it.
I can't think of another one. There are religions that kick you out if you break a rule, that request 10% of your income to be in good standing (but not for the purposes of eternal salvation), there are rogue elements in mainstream religions throughout history and even today that charge for what they're not supposed to for personal gain, or who distort the true teachings of the religion through ignorance or malice, but I can't think of any that have it as an official tenet of faith that you pay up even what you don't have to get the necessary revelations for salvation, or one that wants you cut off from any one in society that has the slightest qualm about your new religion. Maybe Warren Jeffs' cult out in Utah...would that count as a religion we should leave alone too? And no, I don't think Scientology is a front for pedophila, but there have been many reports from ex members of physical, mental, and sexual abuse.
I've listened to too many people who have lost a loved one to Scientology, or ex Scientologists whose lives were absolutely ruined, not to get upset about it. And how seriously can I take it as a religion when its own founder publicly claimed it started it as a way to make money and was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic who believed he was the Anti-Christ? Though, he did state Jesus was a violent pedophile, so maybe "Anti-Christ" is a good thing in his mind. But yes, Tom, you can be a Scientologist and a Christian
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best wish for tom!!!
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http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/events/en/030305katieholmes/im:/061118/ids_photos_en/r456363680.jpg
I guess this is what Posh wore to the wedding? I'm not fond of the hat....I'd hate to be the unlucky guest stuck sitting behind her during the wedding.
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/ss/events/en/030305katieholmes/im:/061118/ids_photos_en/r2753960359.jpg
I assume this is Jennifer and Marc leaving for the wedding. Looovvveee Jennifer's dress....so light and pretty
Tom Cruise, Katie Holmes marry in Italy
BRACCIANO, Italy — That's Mr. and Mrs. TomKat, thank you very much.
In a fairy-tale wedding befitting Hollywood royalty, Tom Cruise, 44, and Katie Holmes, 27, were married Saturday in a 15th-century castle with a guest list that featured the biggest names in entertainment.
The evening ceremony was performed by a Scientology minister in front of more than 150 relatives and friends, the couple's publicists said.
Among them: Jennifer Lopez and Marc Anthony and Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith.
The Roman holiday party also included fellow Scientologists John Travolta and Jenna Elfman, comedian Jim Carrey, actress Brooke Shields, producer Jerry Bruckheimer and filmmaker J.J. Abrams, who directed Cruise in Mission: Impossible III.
The wedding party included Cruise's two children, Isabella,13, and Connor,11, from his previous marriage to Nicole Kidman, the publicists said in a statement. The best man was Cruise's best friend David Miscavige and the matron of honor was Holmes' sister Nancy Blaylock.
Holmes wore a black dress and boots before she changed into an off-the-shoulder Giorgio Armani gown for the ceremony. Her father, Martin Holmes, walked her down the aisle, and she carried a bouquet of flowers made by Armani including calla lilies wrapped in leaves of galax and steelgrass.
Cruise, who sported dark shades and waved to fans as he rode through the castle gates in a van, wore a navy blue, single breasted Armani handmade tuxedo, with an ivory silk French collar shirt of the same fabric as the bride's gown for the wedding.
Italian singer Andrea Bocelli serenaded the couple at the reception and the bride and groom cut a five-tiered white chocolate wedding cake.
The ceremony ended weeks of watching and waiting by the world's media, who besieged this small lakeside village (population: 15,500) located 25 miles north of Rome.
"This is the most exciting thing that has ever happened here," said Deborah Nardone, 18, who described Bracciano as "boring."
The sleepy town marked by the imposing Castello Odescalchi seemed to have fallen under the spell of TomKat fever.
Shop window displays featured photographs of the couple with well-wishing messages. "Congratulations Tom & Katie," was stenciled on the glass of the London Polo boutique next to a display of bomber jackets and photos of Cruise from Top Gun.
Across from Castello Odescalchi, Il Restorantino was offering a special "Menu Top Gun" that included "Mission Impossile" fettucini and a Suri tort with chocolate sauce.
The nearby Trattoria del Castello was offering the "Tom e Kat" basket of parmesan cheese with truffles and mushrooms.
Local residents were charging news agencies up to $10,000 to rent apartments and balconies with prime viewing spots of the castle.
Even the office of mayor Patrizia Riccioni, perhaps taking a cue from Cruise's Jerry Maguire film, was asking journalists to "Show me the Money!"
News crews were charged 300 Euros ($384) to park satellite trucks on the town's main square, and 1,000 Euros ($1,280) for permission to set up positions atop the town hall, which offered the best views of the castle.
The cobblestone roads around the castle were closed to traffic Saturday and reporters were issued press passes to enter the piazza across from the castle gates.
The wedding of the year began Monday, when Cruise arrived in Rome at the tiny Ciampino airport with his mother and his three children.
A-listers were encamped at the luxurious Hotel Hassler, located atop of Rome's famous Spanish Steps. Outside, dozens of paparazzi and hundreds of fans and curious tourists camped outside in the hope of catching a glimpse of the glitterati.
"We came here to the hotel to have a martini but instead we got sucked into the celeb," said Edward Epstein, 20, of Glenn Ridge, N.J., who stumbled onto the scene with a group of friends.
"We Romans are very excited that Tom and Katie chose our city," said Federica Censori, 18, holding a sign pleading for Cruise to sign an autograph on Friday.
Instead, he snuck out of the hotel without being spotted.Cruise and Holmes rarely left the hotel, where they stayed in the $4,700 per night penthouse suite.
On Wednesday the couple dined with Rome Mayor Walter Veltroni, a movie buff. On Thursday, Cruise and Holmes held a party for about 130 guests at Restaurante Nino. On Friday, the A-list guests including Lopez and Anthony, the Smiths and Victoria and David Beckham moved to the secluded Villa Aurelia for a pre-wedding dinner.
The couple tied the knot where their relationship first took a public turn.
In April 2005, Cruise and Holmes arrived hand-in-hand in Rome for the David di Donatello Awards, shocking Hollywood watchers.Dubbed "TomKat" by the media, their relationship quickly blossomed, culminating in Cruise's couch-hopping declaration of love on The Oprah Winfrey Show.
The couple became engaged June 17 after Cruise proposed atop the Eiffel Tower. On April 18, Holmes gave birth to the couple's daughter, Suri.
Cruise was married twice previously in low-key affairs:
•Nicole Kidman, Dec. 24, 1990: They wed in Telluride, Colo. Among the 10 guests: Dustin Hoffman, who co-starred with Kidman in Billy Bathgate and with Cruise in Rain Man. The couple split in 2001.
•Mimi Rogers, May 9, 1987: They were married in a private ceremony in New York. Emilio Estevez was his best man, a longtime friend stood with Rogers, and the couple's families attended the small wedding. They divorced in 1990.
Holmes, best known for her role in the teen drama Dawson's Creek, was previously engaged to American Pie star Chris Klein.
Cruise is set to play a U.S. senator opposite Meryl Streep and Robert Redford in Lion for Lambs next year.
Contributing: The Associated Press and Karen Thomas, USA TODAY
http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2006-11-18-cruise-holmes-wedding_x.htm?csp=34
BRACCIANO, Italy — That's Mr. and Mrs. TomKat, thank you very much.
In a fairy-tale wedding befitting Hollywood royalty, Tom Cruise, 44, and Katie Holmes, 27, were married Saturday in a 15th-century castle with a guest list that featured the biggest names in entertainment.
The evening ceremony was performed by a Scientology minister in front of more than 150 relatives and friends, the couple's publicists said.
Among them: Jennifer Lopez and Marc Anthony and Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith.
The Roman holiday party also included fellow Scientologists John Travolta and Jenna Elfman, comedian Jim Carrey, actress Brooke Shields, producer Jerry Bruckheimer and filmmaker J.J. Abrams, who directed Cruise in Mission: Impossible III.
The wedding party included Cruise's two children, Isabella,13, and Connor,11, from his previous marriage to Nicole Kidman, the publicists said in a statement. The best man was Cruise's best friend David Miscavige and the matron of honor was Holmes' sister Nancy Blaylock.
Holmes wore a black dress and boots before she changed into an off-the-shoulder Giorgio Armani gown for the ceremony. Her father, Martin Holmes, walked her down the aisle, and she carried a bouquet of flowers made by Armani including calla lilies wrapped in leaves of galax and steelgrass.
Cruise, who sported dark shades and waved to fans as he rode through the castle gates in a van, wore a navy blue, single breasted Armani handmade tuxedo, with an ivory silk French collar shirt of the same fabric as the bride's gown for the wedding.
Italian singer Andrea Bocelli serenaded the couple at the reception and the bride and groom cut a five-tiered white chocolate wedding cake.
The ceremony ended weeks of watching and waiting by the world's media, who besieged this small lakeside village (population: 15,500) located 25 miles north of Rome.
"This is the most exciting thing that has ever happened here," said Deborah Nardone, 18, who described Bracciano as "boring."
The sleepy town marked by the imposing Castello Odescalchi seemed to have fallen under the spell of TomKat fever.
Shop window displays featured photographs of the couple with well-wishing messages. "Congratulations Tom & Katie," was stenciled on the glass of the London Polo boutique next to a display of bomber jackets and photos of Cruise from Top Gun.
Across from Castello Odescalchi, Il Restorantino was offering a special "Menu Top Gun" that included "Mission Impossile" fettucini and a Suri tort with chocolate sauce.
The nearby Trattoria del Castello was offering the "Tom e Kat" basket of parmesan cheese with truffles and mushrooms.
Local residents were charging news agencies up to $10,000 to rent apartments and balconies with prime viewing spots of the castle.
Even the office of mayor Patrizia Riccioni, perhaps taking a cue from Cruise's Jerry Maguire film, was asking journalists to "Show me the Money!"
News crews were charged 300 Euros ($384) to park satellite trucks on the town's main square, and 1,000 Euros ($1,280) for permission to set up positions atop the town hall, which offered the best views of the castle.
The cobblestone roads around the castle were closed to traffic Saturday and reporters were issued press passes to enter the piazza across from the castle gates.
The wedding of the year began Monday, when Cruise arrived in Rome at the tiny Ciampino airport with his mother and his three children.
A-listers were encamped at the luxurious Hotel Hassler, located atop of Rome's famous Spanish Steps. Outside, dozens of paparazzi and hundreds of fans and curious tourists camped outside in the hope of catching a glimpse of the glitterati.
"We came here to the hotel to have a martini but instead we got sucked into the celeb," said Edward Epstein, 20, of Glenn Ridge, N.J., who stumbled onto the scene with a group of friends.
"We Romans are very excited that Tom and Katie chose our city," said Federica Censori, 18, holding a sign pleading for Cruise to sign an autograph on Friday.
Instead, he snuck out of the hotel without being spotted.Cruise and Holmes rarely left the hotel, where they stayed in the $4,700 per night penthouse suite.
On Wednesday the couple dined with Rome Mayor Walter Veltroni, a movie buff. On Thursday, Cruise and Holmes held a party for about 130 guests at Restaurante Nino. On Friday, the A-list guests including Lopez and Anthony, the Smiths and Victoria and David Beckham moved to the secluded Villa Aurelia for a pre-wedding dinner.
The couple tied the knot where their relationship first took a public turn.
In April 2005, Cruise and Holmes arrived hand-in-hand in Rome for the David di Donatello Awards, shocking Hollywood watchers.Dubbed "TomKat" by the media, their relationship quickly blossomed, culminating in Cruise's couch-hopping declaration of love on The Oprah Winfrey Show.
The couple became engaged June 17 after Cruise proposed atop the Eiffel Tower. On April 18, Holmes gave birth to the couple's daughter, Suri.
Cruise was married twice previously in low-key affairs:
•Nicole Kidman, Dec. 24, 1990: They wed in Telluride, Colo. Among the 10 guests: Dustin Hoffman, who co-starred with Kidman in Billy Bathgate and with Cruise in Rain Man. The couple split in 2001.
•Mimi Rogers, May 9, 1987: They were married in a private ceremony in New York. Emilio Estevez was his best man, a longtime friend stood with Rogers, and the couple's families attended the small wedding. They divorced in 1990.
Holmes, best known for her role in the teen drama Dawson's Creek, was previously engaged to American Pie star Chris Klein.
Cruise is set to play a U.S. senator opposite Meryl Streep and Robert Redford in Lion for Lambs next year.
Contributing: The Associated Press and Karen Thomas, USA TODAY
http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2006-11-18-cruise-holmes-wedding_x.htm?csp=34
Yay, pictures, thank you! I'm having a gin and tonic and enjoying the reports. Brooke does look very nice in that dress. Glad to see Katie's sister was her MOH. David Miscavige is the Chairman of the Board of Scientology, as well as Tom's best friend. The pics of Posh and Marc Anthony are cracking me up. I can't wait to see pics of the bride, and hear what they ate. It's times like this when I Hollywood. Such a guilty pleasure.
Hollywood. Such a guilty pleasure.
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Anastasia said:
I've never really heard anything about Scientology before, but basing on what you said they sounds like any other random sect. The question that occured to me, however, is - why do they call themselves a 'Scientology' ? The word, I believe, comes from a word 'science' and it's weird they demand complete surrender under such name...
As to the legality of their marrige, they could have had a notary to register them as well as a minister. I don't really know much about Italy, but a marrige won't be legal in the eyes of law if you have only had a church service in many or most European countries, unlike in the States. Whatever church is concerned.
fashionkitten7 said:
According to the Scientologists, "Scientology" means "knowing how to know". However, the founder, L Ron Hubbard, a science fiction writer in the 1950's, never mentioned the word in his writings, as far as I know. I'm not sure when it was first used.
As for it being based on science...their higher power is an intergalactic overlord named Xenu, and they believe we're all giant clams - yes, clams - that will be freed of suffering, poverty, disease, post partum depression, homosexuality, autism, etc, if we cast out the Thetans (evil aliens) who possessed mankind ages ago after an interstellar battle. I believe they crashed into a volcano or something and were dispersed, if I'm remembering correctly.
So I think in this case, the name may be misleading.
I do have to say, sometimes I'm jealous of the happy, shiny, famous Scienos (they're the public face, and have a much better time of it than everyday people - I highly highly doubt Tom Cruise has ever seen or heard anything bad about his faith, so of course he promotes it, that's the danger of an organization this controlling). They seem so sure of their place in the universe. Kind of like Once Saved Always Saved Protestants. I envy that kind of assurance that you're right.
ETA - looked it up about the volcano, from Wikipedia:
Among these advanced teachings, one episode revealed to those who reach OT level III has been much remarked upon: the story of Xenu and his Galactic Confederacy. Xenu (sometimes Xemu) is introduced as an alien ruler of the "Galactic Confederacy" who, 75 million years ago, brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. Their souls then clustered together and stuck to the bodies of the living. The alien souls continue to do this today, causing a variety of physical ill-effects in modern-day humans. Hubbard called these clustered spirits "Body Thetans," and the advanced levels place considerable emphasis on isolating them and neutralizing their ill effects.[17]
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