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I wouldn't be surprised either - marriage licenses are really easy to find. I could walk down to the courthouse and look up anyone in my county. It's public record, you can't get it hidden because you're a celeb. Speaking of records, did they ever manage to dig up Suri's birth certificate, with proof she was born 'on the same day, on the same floor' as Brooke's baby? I still find it, to take Katie's one remaining adjective, amazing that we were given pap photos for every single day of the 320 day pregnancy, as Katie got her coffee, ice skated and defied death, slooooooowly posed and shoe shopped, was thrown a Big Girl birthday party in a toy store, etc, and yet they completely eluded the paps when it came to the birth, which is what the seasoned and trained photographers were waiting for! Not only did we not get a single shot of anyone related to the Cruise Camp anywhere near the hospital, we didn't even get a shot of the mysterious black SUVs. How hard is it to take a picture of an SUV if it's actually there.
Miscaviage going on the honeymoon is priceless
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And just because it's time again, and because some have never read the weirdness, the W interview. 'Holmes Sweet Holmes' aka 'Zombie Bride' by Robert Haskell.
The statistics on arranged marriage are surprising. In every country where it is still common practice, including Afghanistan, India, Iraq, Iran and, to a lesser extent, Japan, an arranged marriage has a higher success rate than a so-called "love marriage."
It's impossible to say what this augurs for Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise. Of course, theirs isn't an arranged marriage—though it was certainly arranged quickly. The awesomely public couple had all of six weeks, during much of which Holmes was on the Batman Begins junket, to decide that they loved each other, that they wanted to spend their lives together and that they would buck Hollywood convention, to say nothing of common sense, and sing their joy from the mountaintops (or from flashbulb-blitzed press conferences, red carpets and vastly popular TV talk shows). Arranged marriages are measured, often solemn affairs; the fist-pumping pomp of the Cruise-Holmes union is another story. And the more times Holmes tells it, the stranger it sounds.
"I've found the man of my dreams," says the 26-year-old actress, sitting in a bathrobe as a manicurist paints her nails the color of kryptonite and a stylist teases her hair into wavelets in preparation for her W photo shoot. It's 8 a.m., and Holmes looks astonishingly fresh for a woman who taped several television shows the previous day before heading back to Cruise's New York apartment, putting on her sweatpants and UGG slippers, and settling in for a late movie with her sweetheart. "From the moment I met him," she continues, "it just felt like I'd known him forever. I was blown away. He's the most incredible man. He's so generous and kind, and he helps so many people, and, um, he makes me laugh like I've never laughed, and he's a great friend.…"
This is how the conversation begins; this is also how it continues, and how it ends. No question can do much to change its course.
Do you worry that this might be a rebound romance for either of you?
"I've never met anyone like Tom," Holmes replies, her beautiful green eyes focused on nothing in particular.
Do you ever wonder whether this is just a honeymoon phase?
"Tom and I will always be in our honeymoon phase."
Did you learn anything in your previous relationship (five years with actor Chris Klein, which came to an end when they called off their engagement this past winter) that has been a benefit to this one?
"Chris and I care about each other and we're still friends. Tom is the most incredible man in the world."
Do you feel that, with more relationship experience, you get better at resolving conflicts?
"Meeting Tom—I'm just exhilarated. He makes me laugh, we have fun, we understand each other, everything is so aligned. I feel so lucky and so—like I've been given such a gift, such a gift, you know?" She pauses. "And it's just really amazing."
If Holmes were actually answering the questions posed—rather than simply reciting the same mantralike love letter—she'd be making a somewhat provocative point: Her relationship is not like other relationships, with their conflicts, compromises and complications; there will be no apology flowers, nights spent on the couch or couples therapy for these two (as a practicing Scientologist, Cruise strongly disapproves of psychiatry).
Is there anything you guys don't have in common?
"You know, we appreciate each other."
Has it been a challenge to make his kids feel comfortable?
"They're just exceptional people."
Isn't it an adjustment to move in with someone—and after only a month? (In late May, Holmes packed up her apartment in Hollywood's El Royale complex and moved into Cruise's Beverly Hills manse.)
"He's the man of my dreams."
Does he leave his dirty socks on the bedroom floor? Something? Anything?
"No."
The lady doth protest not nearly enough. It's impossible, even for a moment, to slip under the halo of cartoon hearts dancing around Holmes's head—which partly explains why the media has so relished the project of puncturing her happiness ever since it was first broadcast, from the David di Donatello awards in Rome, on April 29. (Even People magazine, a typically unwavering Hollywood celebrant, has published polls indicating that the majority of its readers believe "TomKat" is a hoax.) Though Holmes's star has surely risen, its motion is more akin to the teacup ride at the fairground: a spin that brings queasiness, not thrills.
Anyone who has seen photos from the couple's June tour of European capitals in support of their summer movies will recognize the tall, cold-eyed Jessica Rodriguez, a third wheel at all of Holmes's recent public appearances. Rodriguez, 29, was described to me as Holmes's "Scientologist chaperone," and it was clear that she would be on hand during our interview despite my protests. Polite and restrained but alert to troublesome questions, Rodriguez chimes in only to offer an amen following one of Holmes's rhapsodies. ("You adore him," Rodriguez says after the actress explains that she can't keep her hands off Cruise.) But she rises from her chair when Holmes is asked how she feels about the widespread disbelief in her new union.
"The truth is, we don't read that stuff because it's just rude," Rodriguez says—referring to rumors that Cruise made a financial arrangement with Holmes (after auditioning a field of other young starlets, including Scarlett Johansson, Jessica Alba and Kate Bosworth). When I suggest that the televised hyperbolizing of their happiness may have undercut its credibility, Rodriguez asks, "Have you ever been in love? You just want to share it with the world." I suggest that many couples prefer to cherish the feeling privately, especially in the delicate first months. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, whatever the nature of their relationship, come to mind.
But why can't they go public, you know what I mean?" Rodriguez continues. "Like, Brad and Angelina—that's just a shame for them. Right, Katie?"
"Yeah. I mean, I'm just so happy," Holmes says in reply as a makeup artist begins to powder her cheeks. (Holmes's skin, in contrast to the evidence of a recent barrage of embarrassing tabloid photos, is perfect.) "And I love celebrating our happiness. I can't keep it in."
Meanwhile, the tabloids report that friends back in Toledo, Ohio, where Holmes grew up, are worried about her. ("People who say that aren't my friends," she says.) They wonder whether Cruise is sabotaging her career by steering her away from roles that deal with subject matter that Scientology disapproves of—in particular, the role of the drug-addled Edie Sedgwick in George Hickenlooper's upcoming Factory Girl, which Holmes pulled out of. "Tom's so supportive and he's such an inspiration," she protests.
"I just felt that the role wasn't right for me, and in light of my Batman Begins schedule and everything, it was just not the right time. When I pick roles, I ask, first, Is this a story that I want to tell? Can I help move this story along, and will I be an asset to it? I'm excited to keep expanding and finding different roles to play." What about a film with Cruise? "That would be such an honor. Such an honor."
Cruise may not be imposing his will on Holmes's career, but, with Rodriguez's help, he appears to have made a strong bid for her soul. After the interview, when I ask Rodriguez how long she's worked with Holmes—reports call her a longtime employee of the Church of Scientology—she waves her hand and says, "Oh, no, we're just best friends.… Well, Katie has a lot of friends." And how long have you been friends? "Oh, a while," Rodriguez answers. "I don't know."
It turns out the two women were introduced only six weeks earlier—right around the time when Holmes met Cruise. (Holmes prefers to keep the details of the couple's first date to herself, but Cruise is said to have invited her to a sushi dinner on his plane.) Rodriguez comes from a family of wealthy Bay area Scientologists; she attended a boarding school in Oregon linked to Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, then went to work for the church, reportedly attaining membership in the Sea Org—Scientology's elite religious order, whose members commit to the church for one billion years—in 1998. No one close to Holmes will venture to say exactly what Rodriguez's role in the actress's life is these days.
On the day we meet, Holmes tells me she's not a Scientologist. (Three days later, in Europe, she will announce that she has converted.) "You know, it's really exciting," the actress says of the religion. "I just started auditing"—Scientology's word for receiving spiritual counseling—"and I'm taking some courses, and I really like it. I feel it's really helping. What I like about it is that, you know, I was raised Catholic, and you can be a Catholic and a Scientologist, Jewish and a Scientologist." Holmes went to Notre Dame Academy, a Catholic high school in Toledo, and was accepted at Columbia University before she landed the role of the lovelorn tomboy Joey Potter on Dawson's Creek. Her parents, devout Catholics, are said to be a weekly fixture at Christ the King church in Toledo. "I'm learning," Holmes says, as the makeup artist applies eye shadow, "to celebrate my own spirit, my own being."
No pressure from Cruise, she swears: "That's really ludicrous because, I mean, you have to know Tom. He is the most loving, generous man who… first of all, he wants to help people. He doesn't put pressure on people. He is the kindest, smartest, most adoring man. It's a pleasure and a privilege to be with him."
As if that weren't already perfectly clear, just then a security guard lumbers into the dressing room and presents Holmes with a giant silver box tied in a thick purple ribbon. A small crowd gathers to watch her gleefully tear open the package and pluck out a Chanel diamond necklace—a gift, naturally, from Cruise. "He's my man! He's my man!" she screams, then jumps up on her chair to do an impression of her fiancé's now-famous sofa shtick from Oprah.
People begin to cheer. "This is your moment!" cries the manicurist.
"I can do splits too," Holmes says, jumping down and splaying herself across the floor. On that note, I suggest, we should probably get the photo shoot started.
"On that note," she replies, "I love him."
The statistics on arranged marriage are surprising. In every country where it is still common practice, including Afghanistan, India, Iraq, Iran and, to a lesser extent, Japan, an arranged marriage has a higher success rate than a so-called "love marriage."
It's impossible to say what this augurs for Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise. Of course, theirs isn't an arranged marriage—though it was certainly arranged quickly. The awesomely public couple had all of six weeks, during much of which Holmes was on the Batman Begins junket, to decide that they loved each other, that they wanted to spend their lives together and that they would buck Hollywood convention, to say nothing of common sense, and sing their joy from the mountaintops (or from flashbulb-blitzed press conferences, red carpets and vastly popular TV talk shows). Arranged marriages are measured, often solemn affairs; the fist-pumping pomp of the Cruise-Holmes union is another story. And the more times Holmes tells it, the stranger it sounds.
"I've found the man of my dreams," says the 26-year-old actress, sitting in a bathrobe as a manicurist paints her nails the color of kryptonite and a stylist teases her hair into wavelets in preparation for her W photo shoot. It's 8 a.m., and Holmes looks astonishingly fresh for a woman who taped several television shows the previous day before heading back to Cruise's New York apartment, putting on her sweatpants and UGG slippers, and settling in for a late movie with her sweetheart. "From the moment I met him," she continues, "it just felt like I'd known him forever. I was blown away. He's the most incredible man. He's so generous and kind, and he helps so many people, and, um, he makes me laugh like I've never laughed, and he's a great friend.…"
This is how the conversation begins; this is also how it continues, and how it ends. No question can do much to change its course.
Do you worry that this might be a rebound romance for either of you?
"I've never met anyone like Tom," Holmes replies, her beautiful green eyes focused on nothing in particular.
Do you ever wonder whether this is just a honeymoon phase?
"Tom and I will always be in our honeymoon phase."
Did you learn anything in your previous relationship (five years with actor Chris Klein, which came to an end when they called off their engagement this past winter) that has been a benefit to this one?
"Chris and I care about each other and we're still friends. Tom is the most incredible man in the world."
Do you feel that, with more relationship experience, you get better at resolving conflicts?
"Meeting Tom—I'm just exhilarated. He makes me laugh, we have fun, we understand each other, everything is so aligned. I feel so lucky and so—like I've been given such a gift, such a gift, you know?" She pauses. "And it's just really amazing."
If Holmes were actually answering the questions posed—rather than simply reciting the same mantralike love letter—she'd be making a somewhat provocative point: Her relationship is not like other relationships, with their conflicts, compromises and complications; there will be no apology flowers, nights spent on the couch or couples therapy for these two (as a practicing Scientologist, Cruise strongly disapproves of psychiatry).
Is there anything you guys don't have in common?
"You know, we appreciate each other."
Has it been a challenge to make his kids feel comfortable?
"They're just exceptional people."
Isn't it an adjustment to move in with someone—and after only a month? (In late May, Holmes packed up her apartment in Hollywood's El Royale complex and moved into Cruise's Beverly Hills manse.)
"He's the man of my dreams."
Does he leave his dirty socks on the bedroom floor? Something? Anything?
"No."
The lady doth protest not nearly enough. It's impossible, even for a moment, to slip under the halo of cartoon hearts dancing around Holmes's head—which partly explains why the media has so relished the project of puncturing her happiness ever since it was first broadcast, from the David di Donatello awards in Rome, on April 29. (Even People magazine, a typically unwavering Hollywood celebrant, has published polls indicating that the majority of its readers believe "TomKat" is a hoax.) Though Holmes's star has surely risen, its motion is more akin to the teacup ride at the fairground: a spin that brings queasiness, not thrills.
Anyone who has seen photos from the couple's June tour of European capitals in support of their summer movies will recognize the tall, cold-eyed Jessica Rodriguez, a third wheel at all of Holmes's recent public appearances. Rodriguez, 29, was described to me as Holmes's "Scientologist chaperone," and it was clear that she would be on hand during our interview despite my protests. Polite and restrained but alert to troublesome questions, Rodriguez chimes in only to offer an amen following one of Holmes's rhapsodies. ("You adore him," Rodriguez says after the actress explains that she can't keep her hands off Cruise.) But she rises from her chair when Holmes is asked how she feels about the widespread disbelief in her new union.
"The truth is, we don't read that stuff because it's just rude," Rodriguez says—referring to rumors that Cruise made a financial arrangement with Holmes (after auditioning a field of other young starlets, including Scarlett Johansson, Jessica Alba and Kate Bosworth). When I suggest that the televised hyperbolizing of their happiness may have undercut its credibility, Rodriguez asks, "Have you ever been in love? You just want to share it with the world." I suggest that many couples prefer to cherish the feeling privately, especially in the delicate first months. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, whatever the nature of their relationship, come to mind.
But why can't they go public, you know what I mean?" Rodriguez continues. "Like, Brad and Angelina—that's just a shame for them. Right, Katie?"
"Yeah. I mean, I'm just so happy," Holmes says in reply as a makeup artist begins to powder her cheeks. (Holmes's skin, in contrast to the evidence of a recent barrage of embarrassing tabloid photos, is perfect.) "And I love celebrating our happiness. I can't keep it in."
Meanwhile, the tabloids report that friends back in Toledo, Ohio, where Holmes grew up, are worried about her. ("People who say that aren't my friends," she says.) They wonder whether Cruise is sabotaging her career by steering her away from roles that deal with subject matter that Scientology disapproves of—in particular, the role of the drug-addled Edie Sedgwick in George Hickenlooper's upcoming Factory Girl, which Holmes pulled out of. "Tom's so supportive and he's such an inspiration," she protests.
"I just felt that the role wasn't right for me, and in light of my Batman Begins schedule and everything, it was just not the right time. When I pick roles, I ask, first, Is this a story that I want to tell? Can I help move this story along, and will I be an asset to it? I'm excited to keep expanding and finding different roles to play." What about a film with Cruise? "That would be such an honor. Such an honor."
Cruise may not be imposing his will on Holmes's career, but, with Rodriguez's help, he appears to have made a strong bid for her soul. After the interview, when I ask Rodriguez how long she's worked with Holmes—reports call her a longtime employee of the Church of Scientology—she waves her hand and says, "Oh, no, we're just best friends.… Well, Katie has a lot of friends." And how long have you been friends? "Oh, a while," Rodriguez answers. "I don't know."
It turns out the two women were introduced only six weeks earlier—right around the time when Holmes met Cruise. (Holmes prefers to keep the details of the couple's first date to herself, but Cruise is said to have invited her to a sushi dinner on his plane.) Rodriguez comes from a family of wealthy Bay area Scientologists; she attended a boarding school in Oregon linked to Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, then went to work for the church, reportedly attaining membership in the Sea Org—Scientology's elite religious order, whose members commit to the church for one billion years—in 1998. No one close to Holmes will venture to say exactly what Rodriguez's role in the actress's life is these days.
On the day we meet, Holmes tells me she's not a Scientologist. (Three days later, in Europe, she will announce that she has converted.) "You know, it's really exciting," the actress says of the religion. "I just started auditing"—Scientology's word for receiving spiritual counseling—"and I'm taking some courses, and I really like it. I feel it's really helping. What I like about it is that, you know, I was raised Catholic, and you can be a Catholic and a Scientologist, Jewish and a Scientologist." Holmes went to Notre Dame Academy, a Catholic high school in Toledo, and was accepted at Columbia University before she landed the role of the lovelorn tomboy Joey Potter on Dawson's Creek. Her parents, devout Catholics, are said to be a weekly fixture at Christ the King church in Toledo. "I'm learning," Holmes says, as the makeup artist applies eye shadow, "to celebrate my own spirit, my own being."
No pressure from Cruise, she swears: "That's really ludicrous because, I mean, you have to know Tom. He is the most loving, generous man who… first of all, he wants to help people. He doesn't put pressure on people. He is the kindest, smartest, most adoring man. It's a pleasure and a privilege to be with him."
As if that weren't already perfectly clear, just then a security guard lumbers into the dressing room and presents Holmes with a giant silver box tied in a thick purple ribbon. A small crowd gathers to watch her gleefully tear open the package and pluck out a Chanel diamond necklace—a gift, naturally, from Cruise. "He's my man! He's my man!" she screams, then jumps up on her chair to do an impression of her fiancé's now-famous sofa shtick from Oprah.
People begin to cheer. "This is your moment!" cries the manicurist.
"I can do splits too," Holmes says, jumping down and splaying herself across the floor. On that note, I suggest, we should probably get the photo shoot started.
"On that note," she replies, "I love him."
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this whole interview is so hilarious! i mean, she is hilarious...it all sounds so fake, everything she says....
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But...but...Tom is incredible! Incredible! Amazing! Incredible!
'her eyes focused on nothing in particular'
Does her newest bestest friend Jessica scare anyone else, or is it just me? I read Katie was invited to an InStyle party for young Hollywood women, and everyone was explicitly asked not to bring anyone. It was supposed to be a slumber party/gossip/let your guard down kind of thing. Out of all the guests, only Katie brought someone, and not only that, but Jessica never left her side, even when she went to the bathroom. And not a public bathroom with stalls, a private, house bathroom
'her eyes focused on nothing in particular'
Does her newest bestest friend Jessica scare anyone else, or is it just me? I read Katie was invited to an InStyle party for young Hollywood women, and everyone was explicitly asked not to bring anyone. It was supposed to be a slumber party/gossip/let your guard down kind of thing. Out of all the guests, only Katie brought someone, and not only that, but Jessica never left her side, even when she went to the bathroom. And not a public bathroom with stalls, a private, house bathroom
woa... like rainglow, i am sooo embarassed for her. it sounds rediculously fake?? it's like she's selling her soul, but for what? tom cruise? o boy! did anyone watch her on letterman (youtube it, if you didn't). that was just as ridiculous as this interview, except you actually SEE her saying these silly, silly, things. *sigh*
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"Speaking of records, did they ever manage to dig up Suri's birth certificate, with proof she was born 'on the same day, on the same floor' as Brooke's baby?"
I think they did dig up the birth certificate but there was some hinkyness surrounding it.
http://www.tmz.com/2006/07/10/exclusive-suri-cruise-birth-certificate/
"First, St. John's Hospital has a policy of filing birth certificates within 10 days of birth. In this case, Suri was born on April 18 but the certificate was not filed until May 8, 20 days later. An official from the hospital told TMZ that the delay occurred because they needed a signature from the parents or a representative of the parents certifying birth, and that person did not come in until May 4. The person who signed is labeled "friend." The signature is not legible.
Also, the "Attendant or Certifier" who signed the certificate -- Anne Heffernan, RNC -- was not in the delivery room and did not see the baby. But a hospital rep tells TMZ that Heffernan is authorized to sign when the doctor is not available. A hospital rep said "normally the doctor signs" but it isn't a requirement.
Finally, the hospital rep said that the circumstances that triggered the eventual signing of the birth certificate were that Suri needed a passport and a birth certificate is a prerequisite to obtaining one."
So basically neither parent could be bothered signing their own supposed child's birth certificate, they sent someone else to do it. Plus the nurse who signed the birth certificate never even saw the baby.
That W interview freaks me out. How can anyone read that and think she's of her right mind? If that were my daughter or sister I would have thought she'd gone crazy.
I love that Katie never answers any of the reporters questions, everything is brought back to gushing about Tom. Gotta kiss *** to the guy who signs her paycheck right? It's downright creepy.
Yeah the new best friend/cultist sounds like a treat doesn't she? Nothing weird about that at all. Noooo.
I laugh at the statement that it would be a privilege to work with Tom. Has she seen his movies? Plus she'd be more likely to be cast as his daughter than his love interest. At any rate after the fiasco of her Batman promo appearances, I imagine casting directors will be giving her a pass. Katie spent more time plugging Tom's movie and her amazing relationship than she did her own movie.
In his pathetic attempts for more attention I wouldn't put it past Tom to release a sex tape from the Honeymoon. That is if I thought that Tom wasn't totally repulsed by Katie's icky girl parts. I imagine that's why the best man went along with them, to keep Katie from getting ideas about actually y'know having sex with her new hubbie on her honeymoon.
I think they did dig up the birth certificate but there was some hinkyness surrounding it.
http://www.tmz.com/2006/07/10/exclusive-suri-cruise-birth-certificate/
"First, St. John's Hospital has a policy of filing birth certificates within 10 days of birth. In this case, Suri was born on April 18 but the certificate was not filed until May 8, 20 days later. An official from the hospital told TMZ that the delay occurred because they needed a signature from the parents or a representative of the parents certifying birth, and that person did not come in until May 4. The person who signed is labeled "friend." The signature is not legible.
Also, the "Attendant or Certifier" who signed the certificate -- Anne Heffernan, RNC -- was not in the delivery room and did not see the baby. But a hospital rep tells TMZ that Heffernan is authorized to sign when the doctor is not available. A hospital rep said "normally the doctor signs" but it isn't a requirement.
Finally, the hospital rep said that the circumstances that triggered the eventual signing of the birth certificate were that Suri needed a passport and a birth certificate is a prerequisite to obtaining one."
So basically neither parent could be bothered signing their own supposed child's birth certificate, they sent someone else to do it. Plus the nurse who signed the birth certificate never even saw the baby.
That W interview freaks me out. How can anyone read that and think she's of her right mind? If that were my daughter or sister I would have thought she'd gone crazy.
I love that Katie never answers any of the reporters questions, everything is brought back to gushing about Tom. Gotta kiss *** to the guy who signs her paycheck right? It's downright creepy.
Yeah the new best friend/cultist sounds like a treat doesn't she? Nothing weird about that at all. Noooo.
I laugh at the statement that it would be a privilege to work with Tom. Has she seen his movies? Plus she'd be more likely to be cast as his daughter than his love interest. At any rate after the fiasco of her Batman promo appearances, I imagine casting directors will be giving her a pass. Katie spent more time plugging Tom's movie and her amazing relationship than she did her own movie.
In his pathetic attempts for more attention I wouldn't put it past Tom to release a sex tape from the Honeymoon. That is if I thought that Tom wasn't totally repulsed by Katie's icky girl parts. I imagine that's why the best man went along with them, to keep Katie from getting ideas about actually y'know having sex with her new hubbie on her honeymoon.
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I think we are being entertained by animatronic dolls. I wish I had a life...
canuckcutie said:
Oh yeah, that's completely normal. Nothing shady or strange about that. Not at all
If these were average people there'd probably be an investigation to make sure the baby was really theirs, and not stolen/aquired through illegal means.
For some reason I'm reminded of when one of my brothers was about 6, and used to insist his name was Fresh Caramel. My mom had the school district contact her when he went to kindergarden because he'd stamp his feet and go on and on about how his name wasn't Eden, it was Fresh Caramel. Apparently the teacher believed we had kidnapped little Fresh Caramel from his birth parents and renamed him, and he wasn't cooperating
He's autistic, and was quite adamant, he'd even sign his papers that way. But all they had to do was look at his birth certificate which was signed by my parents and the attending midwife/doctor (it was a home birth) at the time of the birth. Really, how hard is it to get a proper, timely birth certificate for your child? Why wouldn't you do it right away? Do Scientologists know the history of birth certificates and disapprove?
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Well Scienos don't believe in god, the only higher power they worship is money and L. Ron. So that for me rules out someone being a Scieno and another religion. Plus I heard Scienos have to give 30% of their earnings to the "church", I wonder if this includes fees for all the courses and the auditing they make you do or if that is extra?
You never hear about people claiming to be jewish and muslim or christian and buddhist so how the hell do they think they can pretend to be a Scieno and something else?
I read ages ago that Connor and Isabella were adopted through the Scienos. Allegedly they were the off spring of the sea-orgs who are forbidden to have kids as it takes away from devoting themselves fully to the organization. Wouldn't surprise me if they got Suri the same way.
No one saw them leaving the house to go the hospital? no sightings at the hospital? no one caught them returning? Plus the impossibility of them having their baby on the same floor of the same hospital on the same day as Brooke? I doubt they ever went to the hospital. Tom knows full well that the medical staff would be forbidden from speaking out and debunking his story so he can get away with it.
You never hear about people claiming to be jewish and muslim or christian and buddhist so how the hell do they think they can pretend to be a Scieno and something else?
I read ages ago that Connor and Isabella were adopted through the Scienos. Allegedly they were the off spring of the sea-orgs who are forbidden to have kids as it takes away from devoting themselves fully to the organization. Wouldn't surprise me if they got Suri the same way.
No one saw them leaving the house to go the hospital? no sightings at the hospital? no one caught them returning? Plus the impossibility of them having their baby on the same floor of the same hospital on the same day as Brooke? I doubt they ever went to the hospital. Tom knows full well that the medical staff would be forbidden from speaking out and debunking his story so he can get away with it.
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I find all religions, including my own, to be a bit nutty. Scientology is by far the nuttiest....if thats a word.
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The person who lived in my apartment before me must have been a Scientologist....
we are always getting flyers and things from them.
Each piece has a list of contributers at the bottom....
hundreds of names long and the smallest amount given being $5,000.
we are always getting flyers and things from them.
Each piece has a list of contributers at the bottom....
hundreds of names long and the smallest amount given being $5,000.
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^^ Yeah it is a very, very expensive "religion" to join. I don't know of other religions that charge entry fees and charge you to progress up the levels of the organization. Plus give them a chunk of your income!!!! Pretty much once they've got their claws into you they don't want to let go.
I think the Scienos will be looking for some young celeb blood with high earning potential soon. Tom's star is on the wane. Plus now he's gotta be funding his own movies he's not going to be raking in as much cash. Therefore less money for the scienos. That won't make them happy. Other than John Travolta who hasn't done much in a long time, the other Scienos are a bunch of b and c listers. They gotta be wanting to recruit some big name talent in the near future.
I think the Scienos will be looking for some young celeb blood with high earning potential soon. Tom's star is on the wane. Plus now he's gotta be funding his own movies he's not going to be raking in as much cash. Therefore less money for the scienos. That won't make them happy. Other than John Travolta who hasn't done much in a long time, the other Scienos are a bunch of b and c listers. They gotta be wanting to recruit some big name talent in the near future.
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That W interview is pretty bad. My grandmother feels bad for Katie, saying that she's a young woman who got swept up in the madness that is Tom Cruise. She's not that young, she's what, 27? At this point, I don't feel bad for them because they're both idiots who went the extra mile to tell everyone how in love they are and then got pissed when no one believed them about Suri....what the hell do they expect?
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Those sketches last page are too flattering for Tom. I mean, he's way not as tall...
hope he won't read it...
hope he won't read it...
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This woman my grandmother knows works for an airline company and said Tom use to travel with his male lover & Nicole traveled with an assistant or something and they never spoke. Akward!
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lost in kyoto said:
thankyou so much for sharing that with us, i love it..thankyou.
i really hope they married because they are in love not for any other reason.especially for suri, bella and connor's case
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