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[michilili]

No fur.

 

[Lovin_It]

I'm telling you if fur becomes less popular, next it will be leather, then wool, then some other nonsense they dream up!

 

[DandyWarhol]

whats the difference between eating an animal and wearing it?
if it gets used, and is not an illegal fur (exotic furs, like guessgirl said) i dont have a problem with it.
and fur is soooooooo luxurious to me.
its the choice of the wearer, i think.

 

[vintagejewel]

What's interesting to me is that many have reference fur as being so expensive. Sometimes in my business I'm astonished at the low prices for wonderful vintage mink coats that don't sell for $30.00 or less. I've just assumed it's because fur is less than desirable these days...What I'm hearing is that many still want to wear fur but don't because of the cost.

 

[jun3machina]

I disagree, I think every little bit that you can do helps. I dont eat meat but others who do can sacrafice fur and still save some animals. And also a lot of leather is a by product of the meat industry.

not to jump on you in particular or anything, but you do have a ton of leather handbags right? (and quite a beatiful collection at that) I'm a bit surprised at the amount of people who consider 'fur', and 'leather' to be different entities...when they are basically one and the same, one trimed, one not...

When i was in italy, i went to a tannery and saw the leather in all shapes and stages, from stacks of rotting carcases, to the salting process, the de-furing process, and then the heat drying all the way to the leather final product for coach and dooney and bourke. We asked the head of the tannery about the use of the meat in the leather industry, and he told us generally the meat is either discarded or used as filler in meat products. But it is not used in the meat industry we eat from. It's the dog food, the powder additive and re-hashed cattle feed. I mean, yes it is used, but it's not like the butchered cow is them sent to be the next tri-tip you buy...

 

[Beautiful Stranger]

i totally agree with jun on this. same goes for eating meat and being strongly against fur..

... Fur, leather and wool are three really different things. I think like 1/20 has something real fur, while everyone has something in wool and/or leather.

i personally think that wearing fake fur and being strongly against -real- fur is a bit stupid too, as you're promoting the industry in a way.

 

[jun3machina]

i personally think that wearing fake fur and being strongly against -real- fur is a bit stupid too, as you're promoting the industry in a way.

not only promoting the industry, by promoting the look of fur in expressing fashion, whether it be real or faux, but also harming the environment still because of the petroleum products in faux fur and lack of biodegradability in it as well...so if we dont kill the animals for their fur, we just harm the environment they live in instead...which is our environment too, since we're all animals (hmmm...wonder if that's even a word...biodegradability...anyways, you get my point, eh?)

 

[tangerine]

Please keep this discourse civil. There is no need to call the opinions of others "stupid." Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

 

[BlkLadyLaw]

A fur coat just wouldn't fit my lifestyle so it wouldn't be used much and therefore wouldn't be worth the money to me. I'd look like an idiot wearing it to work in corporate america and hardly anywhere I go do I ever see anyone wearing one. In the DC area I can only think of a few times that I have seen a fur coat: when NBA allstar week was here there was fur everywhere on women and men, I also once saw a woman at an NBA game in a long chinchilla coat with a silver Alma mirror LV bag, once I had an interview with a legal recruiter and she arrived at her office in a full length silver fox fur and beyond that sometimes you see them worn to formal functions in DC in colder months where a lot of 40yr old+ women are in attendance like an inauguration ball or something like that.

I do not even see faux fur a lot. I have had a faux fur coat in the past but sold it because I felt I looked silly and ostentatious in it and the faux material shed all over everything.

I do own a TSE cashmere jacket that has chinchilla fur trim that I love. I could maybe do a wool or other material coat/cape/shawl with some fur trim details but full on fur is just too gaudy for my tastes...I like my bags and shoes slightly flashy so to add a full fur to it is just too much all together. A full on fur coat to me seems like something lil old ladies with crocodile bags would have...Cruella Deville from the 101 Dalmations movie.

And I think it looks really ridiculous on guys. When I see hip-hop artists wearing it I think it looks silly.

I can imagine they are warm though. As the cold air has been whipping through my wool coats so far this season I need to get a down coat or something with some more bulk and warmth to it.

 

[Lovin_It]

I agree ~ it doesn;t look too good on men unless worn as a trim.

BlkLadyLaw ~ here is a coat to suit you I reckon

http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductDetail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=282574492005173&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524446167734&R=882713402285&P_name=Andrew+Marc&sid=116445B4B239&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474399545537&bmUID=1195147762037

 

[Suburban Snob]

I don't own any fur, nor do I eat meat. I do try to stay away from even faux fur products because I know of some controversy in the past where the fur on faux fur products was actually tested to be dog fur! Very upsetting.

 

[Sweets]

fake fur promoting the fur industry? dont you think thats a little bit silly? something that was originally created to be more cost conscious and available to the masses- i think that is where most people are having the problem here- how dare you be asked to trade in your animal skins for something that they sometimes sell at wall mart!? The fact of the matter is that much nicer faux fur is being made, hardly detectable to the people you are trying to impress on the streets, and you didnt have to kill anything to look cool! And all that mumbo-jumbo about it being bad for the environment- yes, just about as bad for the environment as stuffed animals, acrylic sweaters, synthetic work out wear and plastic bags (well those are kinda bad), but you catch my drift, give it up faux fur is hurting much less than real is so dont try to justify it that way.


oh- and i dont currently wear fake fur, but i would if i were really attracted to something (there's some nice peices at H&m btw), being willing to wear it doesn't make me a hypocrite it just means that i appreciate the classic nature of the texture- i think it can be quite nice on garments. Keep in mind animal prints are used LOTS even in current rtw fashions and they are obviously made of silk, or some blend, does that mean you are promoting killing zebras? cheetahs? leopards? i hope not. If you wear something with polka dots are you promoting killing dalmatians?

 

[daniellat]

Eating meat and refusing to wear fur/leather may sound hypocritical for many but for me its not. Your body actually needs meat and protein, not the soy protein type. But is your body actually in NEED of a gorgeous mink coat? i dont think so.

Many animals are killed everyday so we can eat them, and its cruel, but its necessary. What we need to do is to control the way the kill them, thats whats cruel, the way they die, but we need to eat them.

On the other hand there are tons of great looking garments that look exactly like fur but are fake. Why buy something that is ridiculously expensive and cruel when we can find it cheaper and synthetic? by this i dont mean it has to look cheap or tacky. I could understand this need if we were in the ice age or still living in caves. Now its not a strong reason to wear fur just because its cold outside or we want to look pretty, there are alternatives.

Killing to look beautiful its not nice people. These animals die in the most horrendous way and one animal its not enough to make one coat. I dont own anything fur or leather but i do have some fake leather/fur things and am pretty pleased, i do look pretty and im warm when i need to.

Im not a PETA fan cause they got to the extreme, like getting naked everywhere to get the attention, but i do believe in ethical treatment of animals, i have a dog and love her so much i cant imagine myself wearing her.

Things like silk or wool are ok to me cause you are not killing the animal actually. Using animal print its not promoting to wear fur, it can look really cool.

 

[GOA]

it's very arguable that meat is a needless luxury (i am NOT here to try to make everyone vegetarian, i'm only doing this for the sake of argument). i don't eat meat, i'm still alive. fur is warm but there are other things... meat is yummy but there are other things as well.
of course, there are more meat-lovers out there than fur-wearers, so i'm expecting a lot of angst...

i find it difficult to put in words what i want to say against people using fur to look good and people who think there is nothing more tasty than meat..i just feel sad looking at this fur farm video.

i love my dog and i love all animals equally.
i will never wear fur...
i will never eat meat(i have never)
i have sacrificed the most beautiful bags that are made of leather
i love animals too much to see them go through this.

Killing to look beautiful its not nice people.

 

[MJCouture]

I'm telling you if fur becomes less popular, next it will be leather, then wool, then some other nonsense they dream up!

I don't really see how it is "nonsense" to try to make fur less popular. You make it seem like being anti-fur is some kind of radical idea, when I think you would find that most people have at least some sort of moral ambivalence to the idea of fur. Frankly, I think it is pretty radical to live in a head that thinks it is totally okay to just murder helpless little creatures for a coat.

I think the fur-leather debate is very complicated. While I am 100% absolutely against fur, I do have some leather pieces. I will not say I am proud of the fact that I have them, but I think the fact that people (not myself) do eat the meat of animals used for leather makes the idea less disgusting.

 

[Lovin_It]

Fur has become much more popular in the Uk in the last couple of years but there is still not so much of it around for it to be 'too popular' if you know what I mean.

 

[Beautiful Stranger]

'Eating meat and refusing to wear fur/leather may sound hypocritical for many but for me its not. Your body actually needs meat and protein, not the soy protein type. But is your body actually in NEED of a gorgeous mink coat? i dont think so. '

um, no. vegetarians live an average of 3-4 years longer than a meateater. you get protein etc from other stuff than meat. eating meat and refusing to wear fur is ridicilous.

 

[MJCouture]

^No. It is not ridiculous. Is it not better to make SOME attempt at doing the right thing than to be completely reckless and immoral? Thats like saying that if you are going to shoplift you might as well murder. Both are wrong, but that does not mean they are equally wrong.

 

[Beautiful Stranger]

obviously the best thing is to not wear fur, and not eat meat, but feeling STRONGLY against fur and still eating meat, is IMO, ridicilous.

Comparing shoplifting and murder with eating meat and wearing fur isnt relevant. While murder is way worse than shoplifting, eating meat and wearing fur is two equally 'bad' things. Eating meat - 'its good', wearing fur - 'i like the look of it' / vanity. What's the difference between eating the animal and wearing it?

 

[Guessgirl96]

^No. It is not ridiculous. Is it not better to make SOME attempt at doing the right thing than to be completely reckless and immoral? Thats like saying that if you are going to shoplift you might as well murder. Both are wrong, but that does not mean they are equally wrong.

This is exactly what I was trying to say. Some sacrifices are too much for me - wearing leather, being vegan, or living in a tree in the rain forest to save it. but it doesn't mean I cant do something to help, I dont eat meat, wear fur, I donate to shelters and I dont think it's hypocritical.