Designer & Fashion Insiders Behavior (PLEASE READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING)

[AtticusFinch]

^ So what would you write if you were her PR person?

"After many years of living high on the hog with my morals-free husband while turning a blind eye to his behavior, now that the New York Times has exposed said behavior for all to see, and multiple A-list actresses have come forward publicly to confirm the facts, I can no longer claim to be ignorant of them. Plus, he is down and out, unemployed, and will be an utter drag. All that being the case, I am seeking a divorce now, and will absolutely continue to live high on the hog. However, I would very much like you to think the best of me, and not ask me any uncomfortable questions. Great, thanks."

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This would be amazing.
However you would be shocked at the delusion I would say a strong 80% of the public places itself. If she released that she would be hounded by Instagram comments. Complete hypocrisy but they don’t care.
People only want to hear of some utopia where everyone who should have known is deeply shocked and saddened by everything bad. How everyone is so savvy and business aware but somehow completely ignorant of misconduct for decades.

I want to know the real story behind the Harvey case. Nothing to do with females no longer taking it or whatever bow the media wants to put on it. The real reason this came out. The push seems to be destroying Harvey not helping women. Something happened where the punishment was we won’t cover you anymore. Perhaps a deal gone bad. Money being owed. Maybe Harvey is a scapegoat. An easy target as he had these rumours.

 

[theBlueRider]

I’ve never understood this - Europe being this sexually liberated nude friendly place. I live in Europe. No it’s not.
I think the difference is there are more beaches so you are more likely to see people in swimsuits. But they are going to the beach. Sure there may be nude beaches but only at the beach. Once they leave the beach they get dressed.
At cafes on the train etc, they are dressed for that occasion.
People aren’t walking about half naked. I would say people in the US wear far fewer clothes on a daily basis than the average European.

I think Europe is more tolerant of seeing the human body in the nude and more tolerant of a woman embracing her own sensuality for herself rather than for patriarchy. And nudity that is seen as just "beautiful" in Europe would be considered "very sexual and sinful" in America.
Americans can definitely wear more revealing clothes on average but it's done in a way that shakes up the puritanical cultural roots of the country. There's also more of the fake look (look at Fox News) that comes from the patriarchal puritanical culture.

 

[Mea Culpa]

Not sure if this is the correct place for this but Jason Yates, a mixed media artist, who was interviewed for Models.com had this to say...

What are your thoughts on the fashion industry? Have you collaborated with fashion before?
That’s a big question. Mostly, the “industry” is everything that’s wrong with humanity. That said, there is so much poetry and beauty located there, too. At best, it’s art. At worst…the worst. I absolutely love pouring over magazines like Pin-Up, Supplement, AnOther Magazine, and Purple…I really enjoy magazines. Tactility is very important to me. I did a project with Christophe Lemaire a few years back. It wasn’t a great experience. He and his people lacked integrity and failed to honor their commitments. It was a great lesson for me and I actually am very grateful. It reinforced how I wanted my relationships to be and to beware anytime someone wants to “collaborate”. It’s usually parasitic.

full article: https://models.com/oftheminute/?p=96558

 

[modelista]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...WN-Ex-editor-blasts-weird-Naomi-Campbell.html

 

[badgalcrush]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...WN-Ex-editor-blasts-weird-Naomi-Campbell.html

I didn't bother to read this until the end Alexandra is so annoying she is just trying to defend herself and playing the victim because Naomi exposed her and all the hypocrisy in fashion publication. I am not agree with the way Naomi did it but she is so right and the pictures she posted on instagram few months ago CLEARLY shows that.
Ms Campbell may be rude and difficult sometimes but she has a big heart and no one can deny that she is just clumsy and Shulman is just trying to twist it and take advantage of it toplay the victim. Okay as a new contributing editor Naomi shouldnt"to slag off the previous editors." But what she was trying to denounce in the industry is so right.
Shulman Vogue was all white rich priviligied peeps and what I find even funny is that she is trying to drag Adwoa is that mess haha Girl you just trying to save the apparences cause you knew you were all wrong so for you last covers you try to be "inclusive". I'm glad Adwoa declined your cover , she is not one of your toy to save your image. and talking about her parents being rich is pity! She never supported really supported MOC and even more the british one : How many covers Jourdan dunn had ? or lets talk about Nyasha M who was about to be a huge star ....

But what ever she is just a lost cause ..

 

[SalomeGabrielle]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5077245/Karl-Lagerfeld-sparks-anger-Holocaust-comments.html

Fashion designer Karl Lagerfeld has sparked outrage by evoking the Holocaust as he attacked German Chancellor Angela Merkel for opening the country's borders to migrants.
The 84-year-old German said his country 'cannot - even if there are decades between them - kill millions of Jews so you can bring millions of their worst enemies in their place'.
He added while speaking on a French television show: 'I know someone in Germany who took a young Syrian and after four days said, "The greatest thing Germany invented was the Holocaust"'.

 

[dodencebt]

 

[Lola701]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5077245/Karl-Lagerfeld-sparks-anger-Holocaust-comments.html

I've seen the entire footage on live and right away i felt that it was going to be controversial.
I think in France we have this problem with this amalgam between migrants from Syria and muslims and that's where maybe the controversy comes.

He based his entire judgement from this sad encounter his friend had with a syrian.

I was more interested with that little thing he said about colonialism. I mean, i was ready for the entire right party to come for him...

 

[dsamg]

While I do not agree with what he is saying, Merkel's policies are extremely controversial and the Holocaust and the refugee crisis are extremely emotional issues for Germans especially. He is allowed to have an opinion, and without getting into political discussion, the rise of recent controversial political figures can maybe be attributed a little bit to many of us on the other side thinking that someone should not be allowed to speak when their opinion differs from ours.

Karl has never been a tactical speaker. He is also not the most relevant designer anymore, so it is not hard to believe that talk shows only interview him for the controversial comments and publicity he is sure to bring them.

 

[Lola701]

While I do not agree with what he is saying, Merkel's policies are extremely controversial and the Holocaust and the refugee crisis are extremely emotional issues for Germans especially. He is allowed to have an opinion, and without getting into political discussion, the rise of recent controversial political figures can maybe be attributed a little bit to many of us on the other side thinking that someone should not be allowed to speak when their opinion differs from ours.

Karl has never been a tactical speaker. He is also not the most relevant designer anymore, so it is not hard to believe that talk shows only interview him for the controversial comments and publicity he is sure to bring them.

In France he is still relevant. He was invited to talk about the Paris Photo exhibition where he was invited. This is just a little part of the entire interview that was much more about photography and his own life.

But Ardisson, the host, is known for controversy and his shows are always "build" like that. Basically, he has a controversy every week but he has interviewed Karl in the past already.

20 years ago, he said for the first time his quote about fur ("In a world where people eat meat and wear leather, i find it ridiculous to judge people who wears fur") at an Ardisson show...

 

[Les_Sucettes]

While I do not agree with what he is saying, Merkel's policies are extremely controversial and the Holocaust and the refugee crisis are extremely emotional issues for Germans especially. He is allowed to have an opinion, and without getting into political discussion, the rise of recent controversial political figures can maybe be attributed a little bit to many of us on the other side thinking that someone should not be allowed to speak when their opinion differs from ours.
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Excuse me, the rise of controversial political figures is due to the fact that they appeal to the lowest common denominator, that’s exactly what populists are. Any politician willing to degrade themselves to that role will he successful with certain parts of the electorate.

What Karl said is mind blowingly stupid and ignorant, the problem is not his opinion,he can agree or disagree with Merkel’s line, the problem is the fact that like the worst type of populist he reduced an extremely complex issue to a couple of soundbites that make absolutely no sense. Like if Merkel had any hand in “choosing” what type of people become refugees.

 

[fashionista-ta]

While I somewhat understand the point Karl is making, hate is not the answer to hate. It should also be obvious to him that you cannot paint every citizen of a country, or every adherent of a religion, with the same brush, especially not based on the words of a single individual.

 

[Lola701]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...WN-Ex-editor-blasts-weird-Naomi-Campbell.html

That Naomi/Alex thing is getting ridiculous. I feel like it's much more personal than that and i refuse to believe that Naomi new found activism is the only reason she is coming that hard on her.

I don't believe Alex is racist. The fact that the staff at Vogue Uk (like in the majority of all the publications) was all white has more to do with class than with race.

And, when Naomi was getting Vogue Uk covers, i don't think the people involved were more diverse and as far i can remember, it wasn't an issue for her back then.

She didn't received that much support from the English fashion community in the mid 00's when nobody wanted to work with her and when she had all those controversies, maybe this is her payback to Alex for that.

Because, if we really want to go deep down into the diversity in Vogue publications, there's a lot to say...

 

[MulletProof]

It's pretty obvious the only way Karl is exiting Chanel is inside a casket, but a 1% in me still hopes they bring it down for essentially the same content as Galliano's non-sober speech. The political opinion of a decrepit fashion designer has no value next to actual issues in the world right now but fashion would actually benefit from condemning and discarding people that promote hate speech, or make sexist remarks.. the times when fashion characters could be proudly and irresponsibly detached from reality, blurting out vain polluting s*it belonging to 1857 are gone.. and before the anti-PC PC patrol jump in, you CAN still be extremely outrageous and political and intellectual and irreverent.. if you know what you're talking about, which is the problem often seen in fashion: grand opinions, minimal education.

 

[Les_Sucettes]

That Naomi/Alex thing is getting ridiculous. I feel like it's much more personal than that and i refuse to believe that Naomi new found activism is the only reason she is coming that hard on her.

I don't believe Alex is racist. The fact that the staff at Vogue Uk (like in the majority of all the publications) was all white has more to do with class than with race.

And, when Naomi was getting Vogue Uk covers, i don't think the people involved were more diverse and as far i can remember, it wasn't an issue for her back then.

She didn't received that much support from the English fashion community in the mid 00's when nobody wanted to work with her and when she had all those controversies, maybe this is her payback to Alex for that.

Because, if we really want to go deep down into the diversity in Vogue publications, there's a lot to say...

Well I think Naomi Campbell’s opinions are total trash, but as someone that worked in London for more than a decade it never heard office of that dimension with just white people. It’s almost impossible. I do not know if racism was the problem but something profoundly wrong was going on in there.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...nd-idea-that-there-was-a-posh-cabal-offensive

This is actually the original interview my jaw dropped at some of her statements, she has absolutely no need for this, why she’s digging her own grave is beyond me.

 

[Benn98]

I cannot even begin to rationalise with what he said. When you have 360k destitute unfortunates standing right on your doorstep, will you really vet their religious and political affiliations first before offering a helping hand?? I mean, are you Poland who only want Christian Syrians,while of course conveniently forgetting that in 2004 they too had to rely on the goodwill of others???

Karl can do well to familiarise himself with what started the Holocaust. Seven decades ago the Jews were in the same situation many Syrians find themselves in. And he's thrashing the one woman who seems intent to help these people despite the backlash from left and right?? See, this is what happens when you talk out of your **** 90% of all times times while getting glorified for it.

Also, when you look at who's cutting his cheques then these comments doesn't seem all that far fetched....

 

[ThatDudeOverTher]

I cannot even begin to rationalise with what he said. When you have 360k destitute unfortunates standing right on your doorstep, will you really vet their religious and political affiliations first before offering a helping hand?? I mean, are you Poland who only want Christian Syrians,while of course conveniently forgetting that in 2004 they too had to rely on the goodwill of others???

Karl can do well to familiarise himself with what started the Holocaust. Seven decades ago the Jews were in the same situation many Syrians find themselves in. And he's thrashing the one woman who seems intent to help these people despite the backlash from left and right?? See, this is what happens when you talk out of your **** 90% of all times times while getting glorified for it.

Also, when you look at who's cutting his cheques then these comments doesn't seem all that far fetched....

This. This. so much THIS!!!

 

[Lola701]

Well I think Naomi Campbell’s opinions are total trash, but as someone that worked in London for more than a decade it never heard office of that dimension with just white people. It’s almost impossible. I do not know if racism was the problem but something profoundly wrong was going on in there.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...nd-idea-that-there-was-a-posh-cabal-offensive

This is actually the original interview my jaw dropped at some of her statements, she has absolutely no need for this, why she’s digging her own grave is beyond me.

WOW! that interview is so embarassing...More embarassing than that Vogue documentary.
There are two things...She lived in a bubble and maybe much more than Emmanuelle, the late Franca and Anna obviously. She doesn't seem to have any real connection in the fashion industry and in the entertainment industry and that was reflected in her magazine. I've always complained about the disconnect between the energy of the LFW and the magazine.

I still don't believe that she is racist, she just lives in her bubble and i'm willing to believe her when she said that maybe black women don't sell that much but the justification is so weird.

Just say that you didn't want to put them in the cover because they underperformed! Be honest!

The part when she is talking about Naomi getting covers is cringy at best. She knows she didn't Naomi on the cover because she cares so much about figures. We saw it!

She is totally defensive about actual facts when he response should be: Maybe we didn't pushed diversity enough and that was a mistake for my part and i take full responsability for it and i support Edward for it because it's something that is very important!

But then again, did Alexandra pushed anything? In 25 years in don't think that we can say that she pushed a model, a designer, a photographer...
I mean, she waited long enough for those people to be famous thanks to others Vogue to finally work with them.

 

[Les_Sucettes]

I cannot even begin to rationalise with what he said. When you have 360k destitute unfortunates standing right on your doorstep, will you really vet their religious and political affiliations first before offering a helping hand?? I mean, are you Poland who only want Christian Syrians,while of course conveniently forgetting that in 2004 they too had to rely on the goodwill of others???

Karl can do well to familiarise himself with what started the Holocaust. Seven decades ago the Jews were in the same situation many Syrians find themselves in. And he's thrashing the one woman who seems intent to help these people despite the backlash from left and right?? See, this is what happens when you talk out of your **** 90% of all times times while getting glorified for it.

Also, when you look at who's cutting his cheques then these comments doesn't seem all that far fetched....

Bravo!

 

[Lola701]

I cannot even begin to rationalise with what he said. When you have 360k destitute unfortunates standing right on your doorstep, will you really vet their religious and political affiliations first before offering a helping hand?? I mean, are you Poland who only want Christian Syrians,while of course conveniently forgetting that in 2004 they too had to rely on the goodwill of others???

Karl can do well to familiarise himself with what started the Holocaust. Seven decades ago the Jews were in the same situation many Syrians find themselves in. And he's thrashing the one woman who seems intent to help these people despite the backlash from left and right?? See, this is what happens when you talk out of your **** 90% of all times times while getting glorified for it.

Also, when you look at who's cutting his cheques then these comments doesn't seem all that far fetched....

YES and AMEN to that (even if i respect the fact he is untitled to his view on the question).