Designer & Fashion Insiders Behavior (PLEASE READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING)

[ghostwriter10549]

After this Diet Prada is now THE reference of fashion journalism to the millenniums, what is good and bad at the same time.

Fashion is a weird industry that didn't made the 100% migration to this new society that we live in and it will never will IMO. You really cant "cancel" a luxury brand these days, maybe a indie one, but the rest... This is not like a youtube channel that you can mobilize tons of people to unsubscribe. You have to go to the house of a old lady in Basiglio and tell her that D&G can not have her money anymore because their are racist. If you succeed please come back and tell us how you did, because we are interested.

Ok, but how about Hollywood? Well you can ban D&G from all the red carpets, but we all know that wealthy people dont want to wear the same dress that Kim K wore so its gonna a be a more exclusive type of wear that D&G would offer. The internet is making the world more local than universal.

At the same time I think, well Diet Prada will not change anything thats wrong in this industry indeed, but IDK is worthy somehow. This industry is so dark and nasty, so if they wanna catch the big fishes first ok, but lets not forget that is A LOT of work to do behind the scene of this beautiful world of fashion.

 

[Benn98]

Definitely! I mentioned this before, but them being so offensive was a huge part of their charm and selling point for some. As macabre as it may sound. But I do think this is a rude awakening for them because now it's actually affecting their bottom line. Unfortunately 'saving face' is so imbued in the Chinese psyche, it's crazy. They're not going back on their decision to ban the brand because it,according to them, will make it look they're not of a decisive mind. And because it's such a homogeneous and proud culture, trust me, the first Chinese celeb to wear D&G in protest will be excommunicated. So all those rich housewives who planned their holiday spending sprees around Alta Moda will gladly do without. In fact, this may well force them to look more closer to home for garish, elaborate concoctions. Guo Pei's seats just got filled fast.

 

[Deleted member 130879]

People need to understand Italy's society to understand how bad that campaign is. Most Mediterranean countries have a serious problem of domestic violence and violence against women, with Italy being on the top 5. This is sick and he once again proves he's a misogynist pig.

Even from a purely creative point, it doesn't make sense to show a "dead body" - it's the prices that are being killed. A price tag being destroyed would make sense - this doesn't.

 

[GivenchyAddict]

^Definitely. For me, it would be the same if for Father's day we had a campaign with a father in his daughter's bedroom and the catchphrase " it is time to please daddy". So it just baffles me to read some people who don't see the problem but I guess we don't have the same degree of sensibility.

And I say it again, companies (because fashion brands are not the only ones) have to stop this kind of campaign to sell anything. They don't need that at all and I don't understand why some of them cross this line. We are in 2018 for god sake, we are supposed to do better.

 

[Benn98]

For me, it would be the same if for Father's day we had a campaign with a father in his daughter's bedroom and the catchphrase " it is time to please daddy".

Omg, cringed so hard reading this!! Thank God it doesn't actually exist.

 

[Deleted member 130879]

Omg, cringed so hard reading this!! Thank God it doesn't actually exist.

Not much different from all the insta-panties saying "daddy", isn't it?

 

[TommyGirl]

People need to understand Italy's society to understand how bad that campaign is. Most Mediterranean countries have a serious problem of domestic violence and violence against women, with Italy being on the top 5. This is sick and he once again proves he's a misogynist pig.

Even from a purely creative point, it doesn't make sense to show a "dead body" - it's the prices that are being killed. A price tag being destroyed would make sense - this doesn't.

I for one did not see so much trouble with this campaign, I thought it definitely shows bad taste, but now when you say it like this I understand the standpoint. And here in Finland we actually might be on the top on the domestic violence listings in whole EU, I recall to read not so long ago about these statistics. So I should have realized the connection by myself. I am all for sarcasm and not-always-so-politically correct humour etc, but there are some things which just aren't funny in any way or form. On the other hand I wish ppl wouldn't jump into hasty cocnclusions with tenuous connections, but not meaning this ad atm.

 

[dsamg]

Garage.vice.com

The recent crisis at Victoria’s Secret was met with a similar attitude, not merely at Diet Prada but across the internet. “How dare you?” it asks. How dare you, indeed—but what else? Diet Prada notably hasn’t called on American stores or American consumers to boycott Dolce & Gabbana—and I don’t expect them to. Over the weekend, they posted stories from a Valentino show in Tokyo that suggested they were there as guests of the brand. I, too, have gone on sponsored brand trips, such as a recent trip to Russia paid for by Mercedes-Benz Fashion Week. But I’m also not an “industry watchdog.” What kind of change does this activism seek?

I love Diet Prada but this is very true - for me Valentino is a very problematic brand due to their extended devotion to Terry Richardson long after stories had been public.

 

[dodencebt]

Diet Prada just broke a story about Gosha Rubchinskiy asking for bathroom photos of a 16 year old fan. There are printscreens as part of the post and apparently a video of the conversations on Facebook.

 

[Benn98]

Diet Prada just broke a story about Gosha Rubchinskiy asking for bathroom photos of a 16 year old fan. There are printscreens as part of the post and apparently a video of the conversations on Facebook.

On their Instastories there's a revolting tshirt which looks like the type of thing a pedo would wear in private. Absolutely NO way to explain that away. Pretty disgusting.

 

[Benn98]

If the boy is lying, expose him instead by revealing the actual correspondence before the supposed altered messages and whatnot. And what makes Gosha's case extra murky is the deleted messages on his side, and why he saw the need to do that.

Also, was the response penned by Lotta!?!

Gosha Rubchinskiy Responds to Allegations of Inappropriate Messages With Minor

BY HANNAH LIFSHUTZ
12 HOURS AGO

Gosha Rubchinskiy, the 34-year-old Russian fashion designer, was accused of exchanging provocative texts with a 16-year-old after conversations between the two surfaced online. The screenshots show Gosha asking the boy to send images of himself, urging him to take the photos in the bathroom to prevent his parents from finding out. The conversations allegedly took place on several platforms, initiating on Instagram direct message and moving to WhatsApp and FaceTime. In response to the allegations, Gosha's team sent Hypebeast the following statement:

This was a street casting for a look book shoot. The person sent a direct mail to us asking to be considered for the casting. This happens all the time. We have been doing street casting for shows and look books for many years now. We will be going to London to cast the look book next week. Gosha did a face time with him and then he asked for a photo to have on file with all the others. The person said he wasn’t alone and couldn’t take photo so Gosha suggested he just quickly goes to the bathroom and take a quick photo on the mirror, so he could show the rest of the team and have it on file. This exchange as depicted on the Instagram post of Supreme leaks news has been altered and taken out of context. It is clear there has been modifications and deletions to make it look bad where in fact it was a simple request for a photo to facilitate the street casting. The person started contacting us very often demanding an answer about the casting and became a bit weird. So Gosha blocked him and we think this is why the person is trying to make Gosha look bad, and turn what was a totally innocent street casting look something that it was not. We have been doing such direct street casting for ten years and we have never had such a problem, therefore this is invalid.”



Jan Silfverling, who reportedly put forth the allegations, initially reached out to High Fashion Talk Group, a Facebook group dedicated to bringing together fashion-enthusiasts. The administrators of the page posted screenshots of the alleged exchange between Gosha and Silfverling. As outlined in the fashion designer's statement, Gosha has alleged that he intended on casting Silfverling for an upcoming lookbook campaign, and maintains that the exchange was not sexual.

Diet Prada, the fashion news outlet responsible for broadcasting Stefano Gabanna's lewd comments towards China, noted that although the age of consent in Russia is 16, possession of nude or provocative photos of anyone under-18 is considered child p*rn*gr*phy worldwide.

Rubchinskiy initially gained notoriety in the fashion world after launching his eponymous brand in 2008. Since then, with the help of Comme des Garçons president Adrian Joffe, he has become one of street style's household names.

This story is developing, please check back for updates.

Complex.com

 

[Deleted member 130879]

Is the boy lying about the nude pictures in which he has no problem if "it's a bit hard"? And is EVERYONE lying? Because it wasn't just one teenager. A whole bunch confirmed his "casting" antics. I know his kind. The predator creatives. I've seen a whole bunch of them while backstage, flirting with underage boys, promising them test shoots and a big break. He may try to throw sand into everybody's eyes but the t-shirt is there for everyone to see. And so is his "photographer career". Anyway - he is old news.

 

[kenndale]

Now Prada is under heat for racist charms/characters that resemble blackface. Good luck bouncing back from this one!

 

[Benn98]

Smh. The Italian fashion set showing their true colours time and again. Sgura (African-themed fancy dress party complete with blackface), Vogue Italia (slave earrings), Stefano (***** earrings, Sinophobia), and now Miuccia with her little racist figurines. Who's next? I mean, that not even touching the string of complaints about MFW from top models that's as long as my arm.

I think the other two figurines are fantasy based, but without even clicking on any links I knew simply by looking at the black one that they could be considered insensitive. And I know this because I'm a classic film fanatic, and these sort of depiction of black people were rampant back then.

Quite frankly, this baffles me. How can stuff like this pass so many people who happen to find themselves employed in a diverse industry. Flip the coin and you have Michele with his blaxploitation-style campaign which was done with so much sensitivity and appreciation. This is actually what I like about him above all else. That he's the most un-Italian Italian designer.

 

[Benn98]

Also, dunno if Diet Prada is Patrizio's payroll, because their post about the debacle is incredibly tame verging on trying to whitewash the situation. Mentioning their charitable initiatives along with Anok Yai, Jourdan and Naomi. See? They can't be racist if they've been shaping the careers of THREE black models. No mention of the fact that the brand shunned black models for so many years to the extent of Bethann voicing her discontent.

But oh no, Miss USA must get dragged to hell and back for her Regina George ways.

 

[jeanclaude]

Galliano was a pioneer, a visionary...! Before D&G and Prada!

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[Deleted member 130879]

The thing is Galliano was a drunktard drug addict. He had the "rehab" excuse to go and return as a "changed man". What are these basics doing? Miuccia is a good-girl and D&G wouldn't go as far as to use that excuse. Or would they? What to do, what to do...

 

[mepps]

This is what happens when you don't have black people working for your company. Black Americans specifically. Not one person in their creative chain, could see that the black one with the giant red lips might be problematic?? I don't even care what there excuses are or how they wanna spin their original intent. They deserve to get burned for this.....Black Americans will make sure of that. And it's always Italians. Always.

 

[Lola701]

The problem with the Prada thing is a bit similar to the D&G earring from years ago. It’s interesting to see that the outrage always comes from the US because in Europe, even more in « Latin » countries, there’s a different approach to colonialism and stuff like that.

The D&G earring was just a figure that was known in the southern Italian culture much like a French person can reference creole culture and stuff like that.

Race subjects were kinda taboo here for a longtime. In France for example, the blackface became an issue when people started to learn from that based on the outrage from the US.

A country like France has such a difficult relation relationship with it old colonies that those kind of discussions were swept under the rug for a longtime.

If black people in America fought to have their voices heard. In Europe, it’s a little bit more complicated...

I can totally see nobody at Prada seeing a problem with that piece. But that’s mostly because of ignorance rather than racism...

 

[tctra]

Sheesh. And the paint hasn’t even dried from the d&g debacle