Designer & Fashion Insiders Behavior (PLEASE READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING)

[Lola701]

Can we talk about the irony of Mr Abloh being the poster child of diversity and inclusion and the fact that he casually post in his Insta Stories his « 100% not diverse team »

The man is literally the only POC in his own company...

 

[LostInNJ]

Where did you see in my response that I was ok with this ?! Stop overreacting and call me ignorant, please. I just said I was not surprised by a Hungarian magazine to do that. The whole world knows how racist Hungary is.

I'm failing to see where I called you ignorant, and I didn't say you were ok with it, rather the magazine was complacent with their actions.

Please re-read what I wrote, thanks.

 

[Benn98]

I'm failing to see where I called you ignorant, and I didn't say you were ok with it, rather the magazine was complacent with their actions.

I suppose in a way it did sound like you took issue with what he said - quoting his post, the words 'may' and 'but' in the first sentence..... when in fact it seems we are all in agreement.
I personally found it grossly insensitive that the beauty editor was so crass with the photographer, given her race. I know in her mind she's probably being 'transparent' - something which people from that region always seems to pride themselves with, but my God, think for a second how the other person may perceive what you're saying.

As for Virgil, I find the psychology behind this very interesting. He's not a paper pusher or assistant, he wields a lot of influence. That is actually surprising to me that his staff doesn't reflect the same diversity he's using to peddle his pitiful wares for LV. It's very rare to find an advertorial of his collection in a magazine NOT being shown on black models or celebs. So it's clearly only a marketing gimmick then? Some may ask why does this matter. His collection received so much mainstream praise not because of the actual pieces, but because of who he was and what his position represented.

 

[sore]

Wow...I don't know if 'inspiration' is the right word for what's going on here?

 

[dodencebt]

^ Where is the shirt from, though? Is it Nicole's own design? And if she purchased the fabric from a regular store, then the Victoria Beckham team has possibly done the same because that seems like the exact same print with some of the colors reversed and only upside down.

 

[Benn98]

I wish Nicole would take it one step further and actually alert the brand where she bought that shirt from. How shameful! Hacks and copycats need to be exposed.

On a sidenote, Nicole looks VERY chic in that outfit!

 

[fashionista-ta]

She said it was vintage. I guess the disconnect was not realizing what that flurry of attention meant. Seems a little obvious?

 

[Benn98]

ITALIAN DESIGNER APOLOGISES FOR CALLING MADONNA A ‘HUMAN TOILET’

‘I would like to ask forgiveness and express my most sincere regret to Madonna’

• Chelsea RitschelNew York
• 23 hours ago

Italian fashion designer Marcelo Burlon has issued a public apology after calling Madonna a “human toilet” in a Facebook post about the singer.

On Sunday, Madonna was pictured arriving at the airport dressed in County of Milan, the brand which Burlon is creative director for.

In response to the pop star’s outfit choice, Burlon shared the images on Facebook with an accompanying caption in which he refers to Madonna as “la cessa,” Italian slang for “human toilet”.

“And the time finally came that Madonna, la cessa, wore County of Milan,” the designer wrote in Italian. “I want to guarantee that nobody has given her anything for free, but that she paid with your money.”

According to Diet Prada, an account that regularly calls out the behaviour of celebrities, which captured screenshots of the post, la cessa is slang and roughly translates to “human toilet” or “ugly as f***”.

“Marcelo Burlon proving to be human garbage,” the Instagram account wrote alongside a photo of the Facebook post. “After deleting the Facebook post, Burlon began publicising those same photos on Instagram stories.”

Diet Prada also shared screenshots of Burlon’s apology, which he shared on Instagram stories.
“I criticised Madonna for her outfit and talking bulls**t about her,” the designer wrote. “I would like just to apologise and nothing else.”

In a lengthier apology post on Instagram, Burlon said he was sorry for his “huge mistake”, adding that the experience taught him “social media is a tool which can often be used for a frivolous laugh, but what I really learned today is that this should never ever be at the expense of another person, or group of people”.

The designer also said his decision to refer to Madonna with the Italian slur was “haphazard and irresponsible” and that his intention was “never to provoke antagonism or hate”.

“I made a naive and stupid mistake but the root of this should not be misunderstood as misogynistic because that was in no way my motivation,” he said. “As anyone close to me can attest, I have always attempted to effectively live my life without gender, age, or racially based prejudice. I am not perfect, and I too learn daily from my surroundings which is why I would sincerely like to punctuate that there was in no way malicious intent based on gender or age in my post.”

The designer concluded the post promising his followers that he intends to learn from his mistake.

Despite apologising, Burlon has continued to face criticism, with many calling his behaviour and comments “misogynistic” and for him to be “cancelled”.

The designer’s apology has also been deemed insincere, with some people suggesting it was written by a PR professional.

“This apology is so transparent and insincere,” one person wrote, while another said: “Clearly didn’t write this himself. It’s got PR written all over it.”

Others have compared Burlon’s behaviour to Dolce and Gabbana designer Stefano Gabbana, who regularly faces backlash for his controversial comments.

The Independent

 

[TommysBaby]

And the fact that Virgil steals ideas from young black and Asian creatives! Smh. So many black celebrities (Beyonce, Rihanna, Tracee, even Kanye) champion him probably because they want to support a black artist - which is okay. Him being a black designer was probably the only reason I was still okay with him getting the recognition he gets - heading the menswear of luxury giant Louis Vuitton, showing at Paris FW etc. But seeing that he is clearly leveraging that all the while doing actually nothing for his community seems so dishonest and wrong to me.

 

[Marc10]

 

[modela]

ugh i cant stand these freaking tumblr designers .

 

[readings]

from a political & social point of view, everything vêtements does is so inappropriate and unbearable that i just can't look at their shows anymore.

it is cultural reappropriation at its worst, emptying underground cultures and political protest mouvements from all their substance and making gimmicks out of them...

and then Demna says what?
"on Vogue.com, Gvasalia explained the collection: “I love uniforms.'' (source here)
yeah ok...

 

[TommysBaby]

Graydon Carter was named in this Twitter thread about the Jeffery Epstein case. Apparently a writer wanted to publish an exposé in the magazine but Carter told her to remove the testimonies she had collected. His excuse was that he wanted to protect the minor girls involved. People on Twitter are calling him an "Enabler". Not a good look for him.

 

[dodencebt]

Are we allowed to discuss Leslie Wexner's involvement with Epstein and the potential consequences to Victoria's Secret?

 

[Marc10]

^Of course.

 

[dsamg]

Are we allowed to discuss Leslie Wexner's involvement with Epstein and the potential consequences to Victoria's Secret?

Yes but we have a Sexual Misconduct thread that could be more relevant. I've been reading up on this story so much - one interesting thing I wanted to share was this - https://www.afr.com/news/world/nort...-so-hard-on-the-epstein-story-20190719-p528q1

 

[billiejbob]

Looks like Versace is in in HOT water with China too over a print that identifies Hong Kong and Macau as their own sovereign countries. They've put out an official apology but whether that's enough or not is hard to tell yet.

The timing couldn't be any worse especially with the pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong at the moment - Versace will definitely lose support in HK now.

Versace’s Hong Kong gaffe angers Chinese social media users

 

[Deleted member 119799]

Looks like Versace is in in HOT water with China too over a print that identifies Hong Kong and Macau as their own sovereign countries. They've put out an official apology but whether that's enough or not is hard to tell yet.

The timing couldn't be any worse especially with the pro-democracy protests in Hong Kong at the moment - Versace will definitely lose support in HK now.

Versace’s Hong Kong gaffe angers Chinese social media users

i'm more offended they don't seem to know how to spell brussels

and why would they lose support in HK because of this? isn't this what the majority there want?

 

[billiejbob]

i'm more offended they don't seem to know how to spell brussels

and why would they lose support in HK because of this? isn't this what the majority there want?

Ha I didn't see the Brussels spelling - that's bad.

What I meant was that now in their apology Versace has acknowledged China's sovereignty over HK which will anger the Hong Kong people who obviously want their own sovereignty. Versace has put itself in a really awkward position.

 

[dodencebt]

It’s a very touchy subject but I don’t think Versace should have apologized for this. Basically the apology diminishes the protests and struggles of the people in Hong Kong and will surely lose their support.