Designer & Fashion Insiders Behavior (PLEASE READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING)

[KoV]

How do you win? Do you just not post anything? That's a risk when you're in a business where appearance is paramount. Do you hide your wealth? That's disingenuous and pandering. Do you just post the raw, unfiltered truth of your day-to-day existence? That's both dull and unhealthy. He posts about a horrific and painful accident that took a year to heal from and left his appearance permanently changed, and the response is still mocking his appearance or criticizing him for oversharing. I feel these are bad faith arguments, there is no "right" way for him to use Social Media that will please those apt to criticize. I mean, that's the other and likely bigger problem with social media, that it emboldens people to treat others in ways they normally might not. Surely that criticism and the fear of those type of comments and views are also a massive contributing factor in the "self esteem" issue everyone's talking about with teens and social media. Not trying to be holier-than-thou, here, I certainly say unkind things too, but just imagine a crowded room of people and someone stands up and shares that they had a terrible accident that left them permanently scarred and they'd been hiding for a year as a result. Then imagine people in that room immediately and publicly start mocking the accident and the resulting change in appearance. It would be shocking and I think everyone would be absolutely disgusted. Yet here we are.

Social Media didn't create the phenomenon of people trying to portray an idealized version of themselves and their lives. It's human nature. Before social media became the scapegoat for mental health and body image issues, it was fashion magazines or the movies or whatever else and before that it was your wealthier/prettier/smarter/luckier/etc. neighbor. If the value you place on yourself is based on comparison to others, there is always going to be that danger. Some people funnel that into aspiration and try to achieve more for themselves and some people let it bring them down. No amount of regulations or trying to change the way we use social media will change the fundamental problems. Just have to try and raise people to not be so susceptible.

 

[susseinmcswanny]

That is so terrifying. Burn wounds can be extremely painful and damaging. I hope the accident didn’t cause any major damage and he’s okay. Yeah he could be superficial with Instagram etc, but it seems like this accident was really serious and traumatizing. And he is telling us how his shame and insecurities from the burns pushed him even further to create this made up perfect life for like a whole year. Through reflecting he started to realize that no one is perfect and social media is not that serious. Sometimes there’s not just a switch to flip to change the way you behave, think, and feel. It’s hard to do everything “right” all the time especially as a public figure. And I don’t see a “right” way of sharing his accident. I think the accident itself is so f*cking major it doesn’t matter how he decides to share it and idk why he’s being criticized so much for it. This kind of confirms the feelings he’s sharing on how toxic social media is. He got severe burns… and people are more concerned about how he posts about it?? I hope he’s okay

 

[perfect blue]

I'm glad he's recovered and mostly, seemingly, has physically healed from it. I don't want to psychoanalyze since that seems a bit unethical from a stranger, but I do know that people are traumatized by overnight changes and damage to their bodies and face. One has to get used to this new version of themselves and also go through a sort of grieving process of what their "old" self was. It's more complex than what I'm naming but our physical being is a big part of how we recognize ourselves and identify. And I am sure waking up in a hospital after an accident, confused about everything, was also pretty traumatic. I'll give him compassion and not assume anything negatively about him posting on social media.

 

[DK92]

I don't know if this is the right place to post... But I LOVE it!

 

[Benn98]

The photoshop is criminal. Doesn't look anything like her.



I wish Facebook or whatever they call themselves now would stop pushing these (fashion) Masterclass ads! I've made the mistake of clicking through to the Annie one and since then they won't stop pestering me.

 

[lucy92]

Why wasn't the burn incident mentioned in his US Vogue November 2021 feature? Was he deceptive to the features writer? Was he saving it for an "exclusive"?

 

[Benn98]

Why wasn't the burn incident mentioned in his US Vogue November 2021 feature? Was he deceptive to the features writer? Was he saving it for an "exclusive"?

I find the entire 'reveal' very odd to say the least. There had to have been some strategy behind it.
The uncomfortable truth not many on here want to face.

 

[lucy92]

There's a feature NYmag story on Huma Abedin here where Anna Wintour's kindness towards her is discussed.

 

[KoV]

Why wasn't the burn incident mentioned in his US Vogue November 2021 feature? Was he deceptive to the features writer? Was he saving it for an "exclusive"?

Well, he didn't reveal what happened to him until after the article was already printed, so it may have been a decision he hadn't yet made when the article was being put together. I think he decided to go public about it because of recent unkind/shady remarks about his appearance.

 

[Benn98]

One of the few times we see a more humane side to Anna Wintour. It's almost out of character for the Anna Wintour that has been sold to us.
Shouldn't really be. She always openly supported the wives of men who were embroiled in cheating scandals. Hillary, Elizabeth Edwards, Aniston, Georgina Weinstein, and Huma. I wonder what that pattern is all about.

Here is the extract from the New York Times article (for non-subs

Her friend Anna Wintour suggested she write the book a few years ago, and now, at age 45, she’s ready to tell her version of what happened. “I want to be able to say yes, to steal from Shonda Rhimes,” Abedin says. After the 2016 election, when Abedin was so gutted she wished she could stay in bed some days, it was Wintour who had come to her rescue, saying, “‘We’re going to the theater for a random movie and we’re going to go eat.’ And just being out and being with her, I just felt sort of normal and loved.” Abedin is still Hillary Clinton’s chief of staff: Wintour and Clinton are co-hosting her book party — tough billing for a new solo act. As Abedin observes in her book, “When your life entails traveling with a Clinton, it is hard for any other star to shine.”

 

[sixtdaily]

This guy is one of the new French Vogue's contributors...

 

[Benn98]

So this is what it looks like when stans become stylists?
This person sounds obnoxious, immature, and unprofessional. In any other industry, they'd easily lose his job over this. BUT.... part of me wonders if they're merely tweeting what their peers and colleagues are saying behind the scenes.

And I mean, ultimately, are they lying though? LOL.

 

[YohjiAddict]

Both of those covers have very questionable art direction regardless of the subjects ethnicity...they're both Edward's lap dogs anyway, so they better behave!

 

[gunsnroses]

I believe Louis goes by they/them pronouns. I’ve been following them for a year and they’ve been sh*tting on Alt ever since they got hired at Vogue France. I honestly don’t understand how they got the job.

 

[Frederic01]

Ignoring the fact that this person is the definition of ordinaire, they also have absolutely no business acumen or emotional intelligence whatsoever. Why would you, as a contributor to Vogue France, be so vulgar and openly critical toward Maria Grazia Chiuri and Virginie Viard, two of the most important designers working for the most iconic French houses in the world? Would it not be more wise to be slightly more subtle about the situation, particularly if you are employed by a company that is in effect financially supported by those very same designers you have openly criticised?

I digress. This "new era" of fashion magazines and its endless obsession with "wokeness" and identity politics is so exhausting. I'm tired of this new Vogue France already...

 

[upNorth]

Not sure if this goes here, but I'm very curious to see how this pans out. Juicy.

Dior’s Entire Next Men’s Collection Is a Travis Scott Collab – Now It’s a Business Nightmare

"“We’re very concerned,” says a Dior staffer who asked for anonymity. (A company spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment.) The Cactus Jack Dior line has almost certainly already been manufactured, experts said, and was likely set to be shipped to stores by early January. “In supply-chain terms, these goods have to be cut six months in advance,” says David Loranger, an assistant professor of fashion marketing and merchandising at Sacred Heart University, who had a long career in luxury retail. All of the promotional material is likely already completed as well, he added."

via rollingstone.com

 

[WinstonH20]

In any other industry, he'd easily lose his job over this.

THIS. Why does fashion celebrate such vacuous and bitchy, and unprofessional behavior?

Also, on a broader note, isn't this person employed full-time? How do they have the time to tweet out their every thought and opinion at all hours of the day like a 15 year old girl with nothing better to do? Most people don't care about your thoughts on every single matter or interaction you have...it's all so self-centered and egotistical. I really find it disturbing when grown men (and women) in their late 20s and 30s use social media to behave like high school mean girls. I don't love Virginie's Chanel nor MGC's Dior for instance, but I would never ever dream of publicly expressing that opinion in my professional capacity. I guess these types of people would accuse me of being inauthentic and direct their Twitter outrage at me, but what they deem 'authentic', I deem 'unprofessional' and this behavior should not be tolerated (or worse, celebrated) in fashion. "tea" "yes gawd"...it's all so juvenile, my god.

What's ironic is that these kinds of people are the first to talk about how they are trying to dismantle the toxic culture of fashion...one bitchy and empty-headed tweet at a time, I guess.

 

[Benn98]

I believe Louis goes by they/them pronouns.

Thanks for clearing this up, Gunsnroses, I honestly didn't know.

Not sure if this goes here, but I'm very curious to see how this pans out. Juicy.

Dior’s Entire Next Men’s Collection Is a Travis Scott Collab – Now It’s a Business Nightmare

"“We’re very concerned,” says a Dior staffer who asked for anonymity. (A company spokesperson did not respond to a request for comment.) The Cactus Jack Dior line has almost certainly already been manufactured, experts said, and was likely set to be shipped to stores by early January. “In supply-chain terms, these goods have to be cut six months in advance,” says David Loranger, an assistant professor of fashion marketing and merchandising at Sacred Heart University, who had a long career in luxury retail. All of the promotional material is likely already completed as well, he added."

via rollingstone.com

I would want nothing to do with this line, and even just seeing it in magazines would put me right off. A 14yo's life was cut short, for what? But I don't expect Dior to act or have any sense of remorse. This is after all the same Dior who continued to use Johnny Depp as the face of Sauvage even after he got accused of spousal abuse. Ultimately that too was fitting. That fragrance smells exactly like what you'd imagine Johnny Depp would smell like. Peppery herbs, tobacco, patchouli, with a dash of musty sweat.

 

[MulletProof]

he got accused of spousal abuse.

And it was proved, twice, lol.

You make his smell sound hot, in that questionable and old school Gainsbourg-y way. Having read the transcripts of the trial, and how he had several days of nothing but alcohol and would wake up covered in vomit, proceed to cut a piece of his finger and continue to drink with injuries getting dry and probably infected , I honestly think his digestive system must be damaged to say the least so he probably smells like rotten food (bad breath, gas, days old sweat yes, etc). So yay Dior, in a way they got the perfect model: someone who desperately needs to cover up foul smells.. very 1700s.

Was going to comment on this Louis character, then saw he is just an influencer (and hired because of that). Pass. No one will even remember any of his tweets by 2025.

 

[Benn98]

And it was proved, twice, lol.

You make his smell sound hot, in that questionable and old school Gainsbourg-y way. Having read the transcripts of the trial, and how he had several days of nothing but alcohol and would wake up covered in vomit, proceed to cut a piece of his finger and continue to drink with injuries getting dry and probably infected , I honestly think his digestive system must be damaged to say the least so he probably smells like rotten food (bad breath, gas, days old sweat yes, etc). So yay Dior, in a way they got the perfect model: someone who desperately needs to cover up foul smells.. very 1700s.

Was going to comment on this Louis character, then saw he is just an influencer (and hired because of that). Pass. No one will even remember any of his tweets by 2025.

Those are all the things I actually HATE in a scent. Yes, strong word, but I do hate it. Tobacco for starters is the reason why I could never live in France.
You know what's so crazy? Dior working overtime to push out Mary's pro-women marketing angle yet at the same time courting the manosphere with Johnny Depp. Because those are the only men who would openly support Johnny Depp. Manoshpere men and self-hating gays. But imagine courting both and actually getting away with it? There's something desperately wrong with society.

I wanted to add that should Louis ever wish to come and open a ghost account on here, I'd probably 'like' most of their posts and we'd get along well because of our mutual dislike of Emmanuelle Alt. That is until I express a negative opinion of Eugenie. The love affair will quickly die.