Designer & Fashion Insiders Behavior (PLEASE READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING)

[velvetandsilk]

I honestly don't know what to believe anymore. Especially after reading what you wrote. It does seem quite silly and low for Russia to name Chanel, specifically, in all of this, given the blocking from other brands that is going on. It is also so trivial in the grand scheme of what is going on.

I one movie about Chanel Karl claimed that they check the history of the money. All the stories are from Dubai, Monaco etc. places where live rich people. To us these women are ordinary Russian women, but the company probably has more information and knows about some bad connection. Perhaps other companies is only accept with sanctions on the Europe's territory. Always such people can hire someone who will go and buy what you want but is more compliacted.
Next, Zakharova heared few story and started create drama becaue she can't found another topic during her coference. Propaganda is created on the fly by analyzing the given events, and then you use a hyperbola as you describe the story. She's always confident and sarcastic, even when she's talking terrible nonsense. Lately, she looks like one big mess.

Also, why TF are people cutting up bags? Sell them, donate them, but cutting them up? At the end of the day, you are just cutting up your money. Chanel already got theirs, and will continue to.

This one woman cut her wallet on a chain that people often buy when they can't afford the purse ... We really don't know if she didn't cut a fake. In addition, when emotional, people sometimes do stupid things.You also need to remember that many people are drama queens, and this type of hype generates traffic and likes for your profile. Most of the time I do it on instargram. It looks ridiculous, but you get free advertising on many sites. If you count all of these articles, in reality this type of person would have to pay a lot of money for advertising.

This whole situation shows what a crazy world we live in, but still is first world problem.

 

[Phuel]

Hope all these nouveau-riche Russians really mean it when they’re swearing off this brand. Seriously, you’ll be alright after all without another stupidly overpriced outlet-looking fashion brand to wear (and those bags look more and more Trisha Paytas-gaudy by the year). Your ego and self-esteem associated with wearing overpriced trash will survive. If all these high-profile brands that were once inspiring disappeared off the face of the earth tomorrow, I’m absolutely good and wouldn't bat a lash. They’re all so full-blown ridiculous— from their overpricing, to their banal designs and branding, to their knee-jerk virtual-signalling.

Just a tad of a tangent if I may: It’s the same with that stupid Birkin as it is with Chanel. Women of whom one would think is over such material status, wouldn’t stop gushing about that dumb bag like some addiction; along with the gayz that display their Birkins at every outing like it’s their proud child. The need for these absolutely useless, overpriced status symbols is so tacky. Would they pay for and carry a bag from these labels if there were absolutely no recognizable stature to them? And unfortunately, in the age of SM-influences, this shallowest of needs for instant status symbol is at its all time worst.

 

[fashionista-ta]

Interesting ... it looks like Chanel is attempting to follow the law.

 

[dior_couture1245]

Interesting ... it looks like Chanel is attempting to follow the law.

What's the law? To discriminate against customers because of their nationality?

 

[cestmagique]

Interesting ... it looks like Chanel is attempting to follow the law.

Yeah, it sounds like it. I wonder why Chanel is getting heat for this and not other labels.

 

[mepps]

The ugly Russophobia rearing it's ugly head in the "west", is absolutely disgusting,
not to mention hypocritical. The United States has invaded, and destroyed countless countries over the decades,
and killed MILLIONS. If any nation should be sancioned to death, it's the United States, and I say that as an AMERICAN.
You can include lapdogs like Britain, and the rest of the EU.

 

[dior_couture1245]

The ugly Russophobia rearing it's ugly head in the "west", is absolutely disgusting,
not to mention hypocritical. The United States has invaded, and destroyed countless countries over the decades,
and killed MILLIONS. If any nation should be sancioned to death, it's the United States, and I say that as an AMERICAN.
You can include lapdogs like Britain, and the rest of the EU.

Thank you.

 

[MulletProof]

Honestly, Chanel and Russia aside, this sets a terrible predecent. I think people often fail see the reverse effect of policies should the tide turn and you find yourself represented by a government that is now the antagonist, and everything is always shifting if you’re living in a somewhat functional democracy.

They’re just some ugly bags now but having to provide a disclaimer based on your country of origin in order to make a purchase..? providing an address so someone, maybe, can verify you actually live where you say you do? what’s next, providing 2 documents as proof of address so I can order at Chipotle? when China joins Putin’s crusade and anything Asian suddenly begs the question ‘are you or are you not Chinese? tell us now because if you are, we don’t want you carrying our products!’, would that make it right?. If it’s okay with Chanel, is it also okay to be asked to submit/sign a document about your country of origin in famously intolerant small businesses or businesses known to support far right groups? can they also limit their products and make their more visible ones (such as a bag) inaccessible because.. bad PR for them?

I work in a place (government) that explicitly bans its employees from any business trip or investing even a cent on anything based out of 18 states in the US, because of their discrimination policies, so if the businesses here start mirroring these political moves based (rightly so) on the genuine pain of innocent people who have been victims of discriminatory state policies, would it be okay to permanently ban Texans from purchasing iphones and make sure they add a disclaimer where they profusely swear they will NOT take the iphone to Texas?

This is pretty much the foundation of people being followed around stores based on whatever language they were speaking, color of their skin, making them sit in a hidden color of a restaurant and all the other forms of ‘moderating’ product usage based on origin and government orders, not on a justifiable reason that directly threatens the business in question (such as suspicion of counterfeit). It doesn’t matter if the target is ‘white’ now.. that actually makes it easier for the average person to digest and ultimately normalize what others have put up with for decades.

I’m honestly always surprised at the tunnel vision and hypocrisy permeating these bombastic efforts of heroism so people can get their shot of morality and gross individualism and feel like they’ve done something when they’ve done nothing.

 

[mepps]

China is next. Russia is just for practice.

All of these fashion brands throwing Russians under the bus, are just virtue signalling, because
when this is all over, they will be clamoring to get back into Russia. I hope Putin make them pay double, in rubles.

 

[fashionista-ta]

I understand the goal with the sanctions relating to luxury goods is to make life difficult for Russian oligarchs, but there's a bit of a difference between a yacht and a Chanel wallet--something anyone might buy. Nonetheless, Chanel has an obligation to follow French law. If they object to it, they can say so. I'm not sure why they haven't put out a clear statement about what they're doing.
Mullet, totally interesting about the 18 US states, I wasn't aware of policies like that, but

 

[MulletProof]

^ not so interesting if you think that minorities in those states have navigated through harsher policies, and generally a harsher society, over the years (Arizona’s Arpaio days for example) so if you’re a researcher or just have made these significant and brave efforts to defy that and let’s say, create an annual conference or simply have amassed a career worth of research.. how does it make sense that people with admittedly less first-hand experience and interested in learning and documenting just brutal the US system can be, are not allowed to visit your conference/research center because ‘let’s not bankroll the devil’..? .. cause that’s what it is, the little people vs. the little people, it’s not like they’re openly going after large Texan corporations lol.

I know we’re talking luxury goods here but what I’m saying is that this type of policies validate discriminatory practices that have been a PIA to get under control so that everyone can have privacy and equal freedom as a consumer. It also empowers the private sector to be more invasive than it already is..

 

[Deleted member 116957]

The ugly Russophobia rearing it's ugly head in the "west", is absolutely disgusting,
not to mention hypocritical. The United States has invaded, and destroyed countless countries over the decades,
and killed MILLIONS. If any nation should be sancioned to death, it's the United States, and I say that as an AMERICAN.
You can include lapdogs like Britain, and the rest of the EU.

Yeah, I agree about the Russophobia, but personally, I find whataboutism like this to be unhelpful. Why don't we just go ahead and ban the purchase of luxury goods from France? It's not like they haven't caused their fair share of human atrocities either throughout history.

It's not like rules like this are completely brand new or unprecedented for all sorts of reasons. As a Canadian, I'm not allowed to buy a car from an American car dealership, either.

 

[susseinmcswanny]

Bring on the "whataboutism" bc many people in the US think "Russia" is the enemy, even just subliminally, but also can drive an ice pick thru their eye and think George W Bush is a cute wholesome Texas r*tard who sits at home and makes paintings all day now

 

[Lola701]

On one hand I find the Russian ban ridiculous and on the other, the reaction of those influencers is as ridiculous.

The « Russian ban » implies that rich Russians have some sort of extra layer of dirt than others. While I get the harshness of the measures, very rich people in the world owes their fortune to the detriment of others anyway…
Cutting a wallet on chain is performative and insensitive. Those influencers didn’t destroyed the Chanel bags whose prices have increased in recent times. So this tells me that they have a hierarchy in their level of outrage.

When people are dying and that somehow, you are involved from near or far to the oppressing regime, it’s a bit of a bad taste to focus your energy on Consumerism. If you do, have the decency to be private about it…
I have no sympathy for that kind of behavior.

That being said, the ridiculousness of this situation comes with the fact that there’s a ban for french and others luxury products for Russians but the same people in the western world are totally fine with consuming Russian vodka and caviar. I guess it’s « 2 poids, 2 mesures ».

 

[cestmagique]

That being said, the ridiculousness of this situation comes with the fact that there’s a ban for french and others luxury products for Russians but the same people in the western world are totally fine with consuming Russian vodka and caviar. I guess it’s « 2 poids, 2 mesures ».

Are they? Russia hasn't banned exports, but there has been plenty of push back against Russian products in the US, Canada, and so on. Russian vodka was a common target, lots of places voluntarily removed it from shelves.

 

[Lola701]

Are they? Russia hasn't banned exports, but there has been plenty of push back against Russian products in the US, Canada, and so on. Russian vodka was a common target, lots of places voluntarily removed it from shelves.

I don’t know that much about how the US and Canada are handling it but what you says doesn’t surprise me. I was mostly taking about France.
France has a particular relationship with Russians and it diaspora and I can tell you that a lot of rich people in France who loves Russia as much as Russians loves French brands, continues to consume the best Caviars and Vodka.

It can be a bit of a double standard…
Even if they are clever enough to not be so public about it

 

[Deleted member 116957]

Are they? Russia hasn't banned exports, but there has been plenty of push back against Russian products in the US, Canada, and so on. Russian vodka was a common target, lots of places voluntarily removed it from shelves.

On this note, when it comes to Canada's actions in particular , I'm not sure how many people outside of Canada know this, but Canada has the second largest Ukrainian diaspora (after Russia). There are a lot of elements to this issue.

 

[fashionista-ta]

^ Interesting, I didn't know that. (I think you also have the largest Scottish diaspora.)

I was quite happy that we banned Russian oil. I'm happy to pay more for gas that while dirty, at least isn't supporting Putin.

 

[fashionista-ta]

What's the law? To discriminate against customers because of their nationality?

It was pretty clear upthread I thought. The sanctions are targeting luxury goods in order to punish Russian oligarchs, who are Putin's enablers. Ironically, their corruption is a big part of what's weakened the Russian army, ensuring they're beset by flat tires, expired rations, etc. So in a way, we owe them a debt of gratitude for everything they skimmed off the military budget.

 

[dior_couture1245]

I'm happy to pay more for gas that while dirty, at least isn't supporting Putin.

I'm glad you have the budget to happily blow at the tank!

But trust me, you're about the only person I know who is "happy" to pay an arm and a leg to fill up their vehicle these days. Gas was $1.99 at the beginning of 2020 where I'm at...it is now almost $5. Miserable!!!!!