Jolie and Pitt, with 'Heart'

[pasfoti]

She is TERRIBLE in "Beyond Borders." She ruined my Clive Owen! The only memorable films she has made so far are "Girl, interrupted" and "Gia."

 

[~Blythe~]

The whole casting controversy thing will prolly blow any chances of Angelina getting an Oscar - even if she does pull it off, which I doubt.

 

[smartarse]

But I did say "You don't know what the Academy deemed artistic besides the obvious...
it is not the only role in which the movie they are currently being viewed that the Academy looks for. It's more indepth."

Also, i'm not saying Jolie will get a nom for this, either. Too premature for that. Just stating that she is talented and no doubt she'll do an exceptional job.

But geeeeeeez Louise, the seething hatred for Angelina still runs high here

Oh i beg to differ!There is a vast money system within the Academy.The studio that pays the most in oscar promotion is usually the one to win.Case in point:Miramax.In 2003 Chicago won quite a bit of awards.Now i LOVED that movie but even i raised an eyebrow when it won best picture.Miramax is infamous for paying quite a bit to make its movies front runners in the oscars.The academy also has alot of prejudices as well.If a certain actor disses them, no matter how much they deserve an oscar, they will never get one(Johnny Depp anyone?)There are times when they get it right but sometimes they are far out.As for being a diverse actress?A true thespian?Hmm i dont think so.Cate Blanchett,Kate Winslet,Rachel Weisz and Reese Witherspoon are true accomplished thespians(I picked them specifically because they are in her age bracket)I would not qualify Angelina on their level yet.

 

[electricladyland]

Since there was a bit of a discussion about Jolie playing a mixed-race woman....

Jolie's new movie comes under fire

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It tells the story of Daniel Pearl, who was snatched and beheaded by Islamic terrorists in 2002, and his wife Mariane, who was pregnant when her husband was abducted.
Mariane has said she is thrilled the Tomb Raider star is playing her in the film. "I'm delighted Angelina Jolie will be playing my role. I deeply admire her work," she said.
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I am "mixed-race" too, and I am currently writing a screenplay for a biopic about my relationship with another "mixed-race" hottie. I have Angelina in mind to play me and Jenny Shimizu will play my girl... B) I'm also casting Angela Bassett as my Japanese mother and Denzel Washington as my Irish step father. Anthony Hopkins who did such a great job as a black man in The Human Stain will play my African American father. It's gonna be hot...

 

[*Happiness*]

Brad Pitt (producer) + Angelina Jolie (producers girlfriend/baby mama) = Angelina starring in the movie her baby daddy is producing!!

 

[pasfoti]

I am "mixed-race" too, and I am currently writing a screenplay for a biopic about my relationship with another "mixed-race" hottie. I have Angelina in mind to play me and Jenny Shimizu will play my girl... B) I'm also casting Angela Bassett as my Japanese mother and Denzel Washington as my Irish step father. Anthony Hopkins who did such a great job as a black man in The Human Stain will play my African American father. It's gonna be hot...

Let me know when the movie will be out.

 

[Jadee]

Angelina shouldn't play a ugly (okay "average") chick.
The only reason I'd pay to watch one of her film is her beauty.


The race thing don't bother me and my heritage is similar to M Pearl.

Anthony Hopkins who did such a great job as a black man in The Human Stain will play my African American father.

Was the film any good ? I was thinking of renting it because of Wentworth Miller who plays the young Anthony Hopkins.
It's funny how every journalist asked Wentworth about the race thing even though Wentworth has a black father.
Genetic is so weird. My brother is light skinned and people ask him if he was adopted when they see my father.
My father is from the carribeans and I've see black parents having very light skinned and /or light eyed children because they have white ancestry in their heritage. That's why Anthony Hopkins can play a black man I guess

 

[Boluda]

In HUMAN STAIN Anthony Hopkins plays a mulatto who passes for White (Jewish) his entire life. Casting someone like Morgan Freeman or Denzel Washington in this particular case would've been totally inappropriate.


As for Angelina, nobody actually seems to mind that Angelina is an American playing a Frenchwoman.

That, too, gets tiresome.

 

[Isabelie]

Honestly guys...
Marianne (in the article) agreed for angelina to play her part.
I dont' think anyone (producers, directors) should have a greater input
into deciding who should play the character of Marianne.
in the end if Angelina does a great job and gets Mariannes sotry across
then thats great,black white yello whatever!

 

[Boluda]

It doesnt really matter, though I should've spoken of "Anglo-Saxons" instead.

I just dont buy it when Heath Ledger plays Casanova.

I just dont buy it when Colin Farrell plays Alexander the Great.

I just dont buy it when Kirsten Dunst plays Marie Antoinette.

I just dont buy it when Elizabeth Taylor plays Cleopatra.

It's just not right.

 

[CelineChic]

It doesnt really matter, though I should've spoken of "Anglo-Saxons" instead.

I just dont buy it when Heath Ledger plays Casanova.

I just dont buy it when Colin Farrell plays Alexander the Great.

I just dont buy it when Kirsten Dunst plays Marie Antoinette.

I just dont buy it when Elizabeth Taylor plays Cleopatra.

It's just not right.

Penelope Cruz playing a Greek woman in Captain Corelli's Mandolin was just terrible.

What is worse is that when American's play these roles they always speak with an awfully fake British accent. Last time I checked, ancient Egyptians, Macedonians, and Italians did not speak with british accents.

 

[marysia7]

funny topic, for all you ppl complaining about angie doing this part(because of her race), what would you have said if they kept aniston for the role?
now she's white looking even more
angelina is native american and she does have an exotic look
personally af far as ressemblance, i would have picked gloria reuben for the role
but its obvious angie got the role because of brad pitt

 

[Boluda]

aniston wouldnt have been right for the role either

angelina isnt native pl-eaze

 

[Zen]

aniston wouldnt have been right for the role either

angelina isnt native pl-eaze

Actually miss Angelina Jolie, her heritage is Czechoslovakian, French and Native American....source: New York Times..

 

[SiennaInLondon]

I dont understand this whole race thing. We dont have positive discrimination in the UK thank goodness even though I know it is accepted in the US. If Angelina is the best actress they could find, so be it.

Having said that, if Angelina is the best actress they could find, there must be a plague in Hollywood. I love the woman and all but she can't act.

 

[SiennaInLondon]

You speak about "Americans" as though it were a race. There are plenty of French, Italian and Greek Americans.

Good point

 

[SiennaInLondon]

She is TERRIBLE in "Beyond Borders." She ruined my Clive Owen! The only memorable films she has made so far are "Girl, interrupted" and "Gia."

OMG *lust* Clive Owen is unruinable...

 

[SiennaInLondon]

So it would be acceptable (to you) if they casted a black woman to play a mulatta than it would be for a white woman? Are you detecting the inconsistency in your argument?

Good point

 

[VainJane]

What is worse is that when American's play these roles they always speak with an awfully fake British accent. Last time I checked, ancient Egyptians, Macedonians, and Italians did not speak with british accents.

In defense of my gullibility anyone who speaks with a British accent sounds very European, thus a French character (say, the cast of Ever After) can speak with a British accent and sound totally authentic to me

 

[Merrick]

Mariane Pearl is acutally a mulatta (black/white).

And black/white parentage still rates you as a person of colour of which Miss Jolie world celebrated lips or not, is not considered.
Anyway this movie won't see my money as it just seems to be a lighter toned variation of black face, there are too many amazing black actresses of the same racial make up as M Pearl, who could have done justice to the role who were over looked in the name of having a well known actress.
This was not a role where "passing" would lend a more factual out look, so I don't buy it.
My 2 cents.