Project Runway Season 2

^ :lol: ooh lala it must have been nice for his fans. Project Santino would = :buzz:for me..but anyway, good points, northern_song, and nice avatar! :D

I didn't see the whole season one, but I did see the finale, and the collections seemed so much more risk-taking! I know that it's important for the client to be able to wear the pieces, but everything seemed simpler than last Finale! Apart from Chloe's "couch" pieces..which I think add some excitement to her collection, and Daniel V's "workshop" purses (I felt so sorry for him! :() I keep posting in here because I'm anxious for the next episode beyond belief.
 
Am I the only person who realized that Santino's collection had
absolutely no theme or flow?
It was just like oh that's cute that's cute, and slap it together.
it was all so sheer and silk like then BAM! a leather poofy jacket?
and what's with the turquoise and peach in a fall line?

Santino always blabs on about how he is a risk taker and he doesn't
care what people have to say about his clothes, and here's his chance
to prove his "santino ways" and then comes out with a line full of sheery
cute little things?

I thought this show was all about how you incorporate your way of
design. Atleast Dan and Chloe did it their own way.
Was he just too afraid to make a risky collection so he decided
just to stick with pretty prom dresses?
 
i would love to see a "project santino". his dresses have sold the most on the bravotv website.

too bad chloe doesnt have more of a web presence. her store sounds really neat.
 
Santino's collection was definitely different than I expected it to be. He's usually much more out there with his designs, but I agree his stuff looked cutesy. I think he was going for safe, and maybe trying to do what he thought the judges would like.:blink:

I've liked Chloe best from the beginning. I love her style: simple but interesting, great colors, looks good on the body. I hope she wins!:heart:

I, too, felt bad for Daniel when Tim said his handbags looked like a shop project.:unsure:

I can't wait for the next episode!!
 
Forget Daniel, Chloe or Santino. I'd love to see a show called "Project Gunn" where they just focus on Tim Gunn. I think he's fabulous.
 
Nocturnal_Antix said:
Am I the only person who realized that Santino's collection had
absolutely no theme or flow?
It was just like oh that's cute that's cute, and slap it together.
it was all so sheer and silk like then BAM! a leather poofy jacket?
and what's with the turquoise and peach in a fall line?

Santino always blabs on about how he is a risk taker and he doesn't
care what people have to say about his clothes, and here's his chance
to prove his "santino ways" and then comes out with a line full of sheery
cute little things?

I thought this show was all about how you incorporate your way of
design. Atleast Dan and Chloe did it their own way.
Was he just too afraid to make a risky collection so he decided
just to stick with pretty prom dresses?


Thank you. I was thinking the same thing. He talked a big talk about this creativity and vision he has, but delivered a boring, safe collection:rolleyes:
 
Is it just me or do all the designers this season seem a lot less creative and just overall less talented than the cast of season 1?
 
Nocturnal_Antix said:
Am I the only person who realized that Santino's collection had
absolutely no theme or flow?
It was just like oh that's cute that's cute, and slap it together.
it was all so sheer and silk like then BAM! a leather poofy jacket?
and what's with the turquoise and peach in a fall line?

Santino always blabs on about how he is a risk taker and he doesn't
care what people have to say about his clothes, and here's his chance
to prove his "santino ways" and then comes out with a line full of sheery
cute little things?

I thought this show was all about how you incorporate your way of
design. Atleast Dan and Chloe did it their own way.
Was he just too afraid to make a risky collection so he decided
just to stick with pretty prom dresses?

Ditto. I really wanted Santino to show off his creativity and not hold back for fashion week. I mean, he did make it this far
 
Poll:

If you had to wear one of the 3 collections exclusively for a year (nothing else), which collection would you choose?

I find that for myself, the answer is different from my reply to "whose collection did you like the best"...

^_^
 
Booted Off an Island Called Manhattan

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By HORACIO SILVA
Published: March 2, 2006
IN a recent episode of "Project Runway" the six remaining contestants were paired off and assigned to give one another makeovers on a budget of just $200 each with a two-day deadline.

Santino Rice, the designated villain in the second season of this reality show, vamped up a hippyish fellow contestant, Kara Janx, in a tight plunging jumpsuit that was so hastily made the shoulders and sleeves were glued together instead of sewn.

When one of the judges pointed out that the outfit was literally coming apart at the seams, Mr. Rice explained that Ms. Janx had been so elated with her transformation that she tore it jumping for joy.

In reality the prospect of a bona fide designer like Donatella Versace giving, say, Jil Sander, a makeover is about as likely as Ms. Versace letting her roots grow in.

But the episode captured the absurdist appeal of this runaway runway hit, in which aspiring fashion designers live together in New York, share a workroom and face weekly design challenges, often a ridiculous task like creating a garden-party dress out of greenery from the flower district.

Their handiwork is judged on the spot by a panel of experts and by the armchair critics in the television audience, who have come to include a large segment of the real fashion industry. The loser is booted off the catwalk in less time than it takes a fashion assistant to tape the sole of a borrowed shoe. In the same way that "The Apprentice" with Donald Trump reveals little about the actual workings of a boardroom, "Project Runway," which is scheduled to culminate Wednesday night with the selection of a final winner, holds only a shaky mirror to the fashion world. The reflection is sometimes ugly and sometimes beautiful, but it's a compelling pop homage to the visionary outsiders who through sheer force of will and effrontery (and sometimes a bit of glue) adorn us in their dreams.

"Project Runway," which runs on Bravo, found its audience despite the failure of other behind-the-scenes fashion reality shows like "The Cut," Tommy Hilfiger's big-budget flop on CBS. "Runway" is Bravo's biggest hit, consistently winning high ratings for a cable show among prized 18-to-49-year-olds.
During Fashion Week in New York a catwalk show by four "Project Runway" designers was such a hot ticket that more than one industry pro seemed miffed at having to miss the presentation because it clashed with the Ralph Lauren show. "What was Ralph thinking?" asked an editor from Interview magazine.

Such is the power of the show that even the lifeless host, Heidi Klum, who was once described by a former modeling agent as having "the personality of a German sausage," has become a celebrity, right down to her signature kiss-off, "auf wiedersehen" (because, as we know, German is the language of high fashion).

So too have the expert judges, the designer Michael Kors, with his ever-ready quip ("It looks like a 'Golden Girls' outfit that you belt and wear with leggings"), and Nina Garcia, the fashion director of Elle magazine, whose comments are usually limited to the technicalities of garment construction ("That hemline is uneven").

Ms. Garcia does, however, occasionally betray fashion-world ruthlessness, as when she responded to a contestant's on-screen meltdown with "I really don't need to be hearing this."

The show has hit a nerve with fashionistas in New York, where newcomers with "the total package" arrive every day, like so many hopefuls auditioning for a reality TV series.

But it also appeals to people who had never heard of overlocker machines or silk charmeuse. Strip away all the glamour — the L'Oréal makeup room, the Tresemmé hair salon, the celebrity judges — and the show is an old-fashioned talent contest, the perennial little black dress of programming.
Just as "American Idol" aspirants are forced to cover tunes in wildly varying genres — a hillbilly trying his hand at Donna Summer — "Project Runway" contestants also have to be able to juggle everything from designing high-concept lingerie (Mr. Rice's take was based on lederhosen) to an outfit for an Olympic figure skater (Mr. Rice ruffled feathers with a frothy confection likened to a Thanksgiving turkey).

These kids have to be able to cut it. And pattern-make it. Then stitch it.
And especially dish it. At the heart of the show's appeal is the campy dramedy that ensues when already brittle personalities, possessed of the ego and drive that drew them to the fashion world in the first place, are thrown together on a deadline. Viewers are transfixed not only by watching the contestants cut up their favorite outfits to make a dress, but also by watching them fashion their personas.

Naturally, part of the fun is also seeing these carefully constructed personas — the renegade, the technician, the fabulist — fall apart. Zulena Griffin, a former New York model turned costume designer for films, was booted off in Episode 8, but not before managing to have a breakdown in multiple personalities when she introduced viewers to her ornery alter ego Shatangi, a "tell-it-like-it-is sister."

Anyone with a pincushion and a dream is welcome as a contestant, regardless of color, age or sexuality. In fact homosexuality, which on other reality shows could be a source of tension, is an issue only when one of the frock-obsessed young men turns out to like not only dressing women but also undressing them. The biggest surprise is that the breakout personality is the show's least flamboyant or neurasthenic: Tim Gunn, the affable chairman of the fashion design department at the Parsons School, who like a father hen guides contestants through their weekly challenge.

With his top-drawer drawl, Banana Republic blazers and one-liners — "Make it work" — Mr. Gunn has turned into an unlikely heartthrob.

The personality clashes, deadlines and design challenges may be exaggerated for effect, but there is one undeniable reality that can't be ignored by the contestants or their real fashion-world counterparts: hype is not enough. Genius, that evanescent combination of talent, personality, drive and opportunity, is the rarest of commodities.

The nationwide searches on "American Idol" have yet to yield the new Aretha Franklin, and it remains to be seen whether "Project Runway" will unearth the next Calvin Klein. "The stakes have never been higher," is one of the show's catchphrases, and it's never been more difficult to gain entree into the industry.

But "Project Runway" has history on its side: Yves Saint Laurent and Karl Lagerfeld, arguably the two most influential designers of the last half-century, got their starts in fashion competitions.

It's interesting to contemplate the magic that either genius could conjure in two days using corn husks from Gristede's, as Austin Scarlett, one of last year's contestants, managed to do. Chances are that, even without a glue gun, they would make it work.

from new york times
 
tim gunn part 1

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We are obsessed with Tim Gunn. There, we said it. And you know you are too. The 52-year-old-but-looks-way-younger chair of the Department of Fashion Design at the Parsons The New School for Design, is our favorite reason for watching Project Runway. His desert-dry sense of humor and razor wit are a breath of fresh air amidst the designing drama. The Washington, D.C., native has been at Parsons (and living in New York City) for over 22 years. He took some time out from his schedule to dish with us about details behind the show, who he was glad to see go, and why he is single (that last one is the most shocking to us).

Part One of Two

Out: I have to start by letting you know you are getting to be known as quite the silver fox in our offices. Right up there with Anderson Cooper!
Tim: Thank you! It's very flattering company to be in.

So what all of America wants to know, have you and Andraé hit Red Lobster yet? [EDITOR’S NOTE: In one episode designer Santino, while doing a spot-on imitation of Tim, concocted an elaborate tale of romance between Tim and designer Andraé, culminating in a fight at Red Lobster.]
[Laughter] We were filming the “turning over of the keys” to the Saturn Sky Roadster, our one little bit of sponsor stuff we have to do. Andraé arrived at Parsons—I don’t even know why he arrived [he was already off the show]—we looked at each other (and at Santino) and said, “We have to do a Red Lobster photo shoot!” Red Lobster is half a block from Parsons. We ran over to Red Lobster, and unfortunately it wasn’t open yet because I really wanted them to get a photo of us sitting at a booth. We did a whole photo shoot in front. Bravo jokingly said it was going to be their Christmas card, so we’ll have to wait and see.

When I lived in New York, there wasn’t a Red Lobster in the city so I trekked out to Queens with a friend to go. It was a two-hour wait!
Seriously? Did you have fun?

It was hilarious.
I keep asking my coworkers here at Parsons to go. This has been going on for over a year. And no one will go. Well, Andraé will go with me.

We can only hope. So, between filming, blog entries, and podcasts, it seems like this show would take up a lot of your time. How are you able to balance your “day job” with Runway?
The first 11 episodes were filmed at Parsons when we were out of session. We couldn’t possibly film when we’re in session because there’s no space. Parsons was, actually, initially never going to be a part of this.

Really?
I was first brought on board as a consultant. The producers were talking to people all over town looking for someone to help them construct the challenges. I knew they had been talking to a lot of people because when we were having an exploratory conversation, they asked me how I would respond when told a wedding dress had to be designed in two days. I was nonplussed and said, “Well, if a wedding dress needs to be designed in two days, it will be designed in two days.” The ‘make it work’ phrase I’ve been using at Parsons for years—they have to make it work. The producers said, “Everyone else told us you need at least two weeks to do a wedding dress.” I said, “Well, for a certain kind of wedding dress. The Project Runway dress isn’t going to have arms, it isn’t going to have a train, it isn’t going to have a lot of things, but it will still be a wedding dress.” I guess that resonated with them because they called back a couple days later and said, “We want it to be you!” That evolved into me going to the auditions, and from there they asked how I would feel about being the “den father” in the studio. At that time we didn’t even know what it meant!
But going back to Parsons, the producers were going to outfit a loft space in the Atlas apartment building to make it look like a fashion design studio. But on a very sobering day in mid July [2004] everyone realized the budget wouldn’t allow it. I looked at them and said, “Let’s walk over to Parsons.”

There was no summer session?
We do, but it runs in July. And it was August. So it was a very organic process, and somewhat serendipitous.

This whole time between filming and Olympus Fashion Week the designers have just been…
They’ve been working like gangbusters to get these collections finished. That’s what they’ve been doing all these months.

Was it annoying to wait all this time for the end results?
It hasn’t been annoying at all. I won’t say I’m on pins and needles as much as they are, but I’m certainly on pins and needles. Who knows who’s gonna win? I will say that the quality of the work and the clarity of the point of view of each of them was so palpable it really is a matter of taste. It’s a matter of the judges’ taste. It’s not as though one was poorly made or another reason. Of course the judges did pick on some little things, and I just wanted to say, “Let it go. Just tell everyone they’re a winner but you get the crown.” I felt the same way during the first season… except for Wendy Pepper. I mean really, what was she doing there? I didn’t feel that this year at all.

Where have they been working all these months since Parsons is in session?
They’ve been set up in a studio at the Banana Republic design headquarters on 18th Street.

So, what were you doing before Parsons?
I was working at a small museum school in Washington, D.C., called the Corcoran School of Art, part of the Corcoran Gallery. I was teaching 3-dimensional design and doing admissions work for them.

Did you ever have design aspirations yourself?
I spent years wanting to be an architect. And I actually was a very serious sculptor for a number of years. So much of that experience helps me with fashion. Not to mention almost 23 years here at Parsons. Talk about a design education!

You mentioned in one of your blog entries that the judges do take past performance into consideration, like they did with Zulema. Santino has been in the bottom more than anyone else. It seems like he’s kept more because of his outlandish personality rather than great talent.
We have got to reconcile that the personality has certainly played a role here. It certainly has. But Santino’s the big risk-taker. From where I sit, they were all so dull/normal for the most part. There were some exceptions—Guadalupe and her float in the parade. They were all playing it so safe. At least Santino you could rely on for being out there. Maybe it was too far out there, but at least he was making a statement. When I think back about Daniel Vosovic, for instance, I find it hard to remember most of what he did for the first half of the show. The first time he really comes into the spotlight is with the lingerie challenge, and frankly, I thought that stuff was dull/normal. I don’t even remember what Daniel did for the next several challenges. Whereas Santino, I remember every single thing he ever did. He is bigger than life, and I really do believe he’s talented. The risk for Santino is being labeled a one-note because it’s a regurgitation of deconstruction and raw, unraveling seams, the wretched excess—he needed to go to boot camp with Coco Chanel, he would have learned a few things. But you could rely on him for some stimulation whereas [you were] falling asleep with most of the others.

Who has been the hardest to say goodbye to?
Oh, that’s a tough one. I can say who it was easy to say goodbye to!

That was actually my next question! So we can start there.
[Laughs] Oh, what am I getting myself into? I will say, I got so attached to them all emotionally. I want all of them to succeed… to a point. I have my limitations. But it was really hard and frequently very emotional, just to go back into that room and say, “You have to go upstairs and clean up your stuff.” In fact, I hated that line, but I had to keep saying it. It sounded kind of cold and that’s not how I am.

Not as cold as “You’re out.”
That’s true. But I’ll use Daniel Franco as an example. Lord, this past week I have found out I’ve developed an allergy to the guy. There was no way he was going to stay the course of season two. Absolutely no way. He doesn’t understand a deadline. He is incredibly annoying to be around. He’s the one person who never, ever forgot there was a camera around. So I was thrilled he left the way he left. Because he really did leave with dignity and with grace and with professionalism. And, boy, was I relieved he was gone. I just couldn’t stomach going much further with all that stuff of his. The other person from season two who I was not only perfectly happy to see go, I would have arranged for a car service to get her out of there, was Zulema. Oh, my God.

the awesome tim gunn, from out.com
 
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We are obsessed with Tim Gunn. There, we said it. And you know you are too. The 52-year-old-but-looks-way-younger chair of the Department of Fashion Design at the Parsons The New School for Design is our favorite reason for watching Project Runway. His desert-dry sense of humor and razor wit are a breath of fresh air amidst the designing drama. The Washington, D.C., native has been at Parsons (and living in New York City) for over 22 years. He took some time out from his schedule to dish with us about details behind the show, who he was glad to see go, and why he is single (that last one is the most shocking to us).

Part Two of Two
(To read part one, click here )

Out: Zulema had a big chip on her shoulder.
Tim: She had a huge chip on her shoulder. And she had this thing about me, and I didn’t understand where it was coming from. She just didn’t want to interact with me. Most of the interaction I had with the designers is in our big workroom. And it’s camera friendly in that it’s easy for the cameramen to get around. But Zulema’s tactic was to do almost all her work in the Sewing Room. It’s not only not camera friendly, it’s not audio friendly because of the roar of the machines. So I would go in and ask her if she would come in and speak to me, and she would simply say “No.” So we didn’t have a lot of interaction. I found her presence to be grating. And I didn’t realize until after she was gone that the designers had all been terrified by her in a way and how mean and horrible she was to them. The other thing that was funny was that we supply the designers with muslin to do prototyping. In season one, I think we bought two 50-yard bolts the entire season. Season two we were buying a bolt of muslin every other challenge. After Zulema was gone, the designers asked for another bolt of muslin, and I said, “We just got you a bolt of muslin. What are you guys doing?” It turns out Zulema was using it all. She was doing tons of prototyping, then she would take the bolt and stick it under her table and tell people they couldn’t touch it. I said, “Why didn’t you tell me? I would have done something about it.” “We were afraid.” I looked at Santino and said, “You were afraid?” And he said, “Actually, I didn’t need the muslin so I didn’t care.” Anyway, she was a trip. Wait until you see her in the reunion show.

Any difficulties presented by Heidi’s pregnancy?
There were no difficulties. And she’s incredible. Talk about an amazing individual. And doesn’t she look great pregnant?

It doesn’t hurt that she has the most fabulous maternity couture that money can buy.
[Laughs] True. And she really knows how to work it, doesn’t she? I remember saying to Heidi with frequency, “Don’t you want to sit down?” These hours are so long. She carried herself and used the same hours that we did in season one. In a way it was as if she wasn’t pregnant at all. She just kept go-go-going. But the designers kept waiting every time we announced a new challenge, they kept expecting it would be a pregnancy challenge.

I was wondering about that too!
We talked about it and thought, It’s too expected. So we dropped it.

Did you have a favorite challenge?
Without a doubt, the Garden Party challenge. I loved seeing how the designers were innovative. That was the challenge I was the most worried for all of them. Before we were finished I kept thinking, Nothing’s going to be finished, and it’s all going to look like a pile of crap! And then when it was done, I really thought any of them could have won.

What surprised me—and you even acknowledged this—the lack of flowers, and Michael and Nina being so harsh on them. I thought, You were there last year! You saw what happened to Austin’s cornhusk dress! They didn’t think back.
Exactly. I was surprised about that too. Also, if anyone has any inclination that I have influence over the judges before what they see on the runway, put it to rest because they didn’t know how limited the budget was and how constrained the designers were when we were shopping. Flowers were just not going to be a part of the equation.

Do you have a designer you love to wear?
I really am a Banana Republic addict—and I was one before Project Runway. I had been associate dean for years and I wore Ralph Lauren and Brooks Brothers. I wore suits every day and that’s just the way it was. I came to the department of Fashion Design. I had been here for about a year and a half and I thought I was an old stick in the mud. I needed to slightly edge it up. So I thought, I need a black leather blazer. So I went to Saks Fifth Avenue and I found one. It was Hugo Boss. It was gorgeous, and it was $800. I gasped and I bought it, and I thought, There’s my clothing budget for the whole year. So I walked across the street into Rockefeller Center where the Banana Republic flagship store is. I hadn’t been in Banana Republic for years. There was a black leather blazer for $400, and the two of them were indiscernible from each other. So I bought it and took the other one back. I went back to Banana and I fell in love with everything they were doing. So when Deborah Lloyd, the design director at Banana, oversaw our first Banana Republic challenge, I had the opportunity to meet her, and I told her the story. She looked at me and her eyes sort of bugged out and she said, “That was my first collection for Banana Republic.” It goes to show you how important a designer is to the brand. She turned me around completely.

Now the big question: Are you single?
I’m very single.

How can you be single?
This is going to sound ridiculous to you. I’m so resigned to it. I went to a psychic about 25-26 years ago. Ostensibly the real thing; she was a consultant to the NASA space flights, and she was a consultant to the FBI. And it was a horrible session. She punched holes in every myth I’d created about myself. I’d spent a lot of my life blaming things on prior lives. And she said to me, “I don’t believe in talking to people about prior lives.” I thought, That’s disappointing, it’s one of the reasons I wanted to see you. Then she said, “In your case, I have to make an exception. I have never met a new soul. Until now.” I say that because it helped explain a lot. I have never, ever been more hurt than from a relationship that goes back to Washington, D.C.—before New York. I’m welling up thinking about how horrible it all was. After many years, it was the advent of AIDS and knowing that this guy who I loved more than myself had been sleeping around… it was awful. More awful was his out and out rejection of me, saying, “I don’t have the patience for you. I’m tired of you. Get lost.” And I haven’t been in a relationship since. And I’ve run from a couple of opportunities. I keep revisiting this “new soul” thing and I think, It’s not gonna happen in this lifetime. It’s not meant to be.

Well, if that’s how you feel, then I say… you’re crazy! I could think of 20 great guys for you off the top of my head who’d want to be your life partner!
That’s nice to hear. I have very good friends, and I think that’s the way it’s probably going to stay. God knows I live in a gay Mecca. I live in the West Village and work in the middle of the fashion industry. It’s hard to find a heterosexual male within half a mile.

Do gay men approach you?
I was at the Human Rights Campaign dinner recently. I was at the Bravo table and I thought, I don’t think I have ever been in a room with so many extraordinary-looking gay men. And people came up to me. People are really nice. With the exception of one person who punched me when I was at the end of last season. You know what’s weird? No one ever asks, “Are you that guy from that show?” They just come right up to me and start talking. It’s weird to me.

Maybe you’re really destined to be with Andråe.
[Much laughter] Maybe I’ve been waiting for Andraé!

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angela xx said:
Is it just me or do all the designers this season seem a lot less creative and just overall less talented than the cast of season 1?
I couldn't agree with you more.
 
i am very curious too

i hope its daniel , i really liked him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:woot:
 
caro said:
I couldn't agree with you more.

Kara's collection was gorgeous. Her patterns and prints were gorgeous; her style was also very urban meets baby doll. I loved it! :blush: Too bad she was eliminated, her collection was the best.

I hope Chloe wins just because she has almost the same background as me and that's about it. I'm not too wowed by the others.
 
i think santino will benefit the most from the banana internship because he has the creativity but his clothes are so unrefined, unpolished. also, i think he would bring a different branding/ style to banana. so, i think it would be a good marriage, if he won. i'm still undecided...:rolleyes:
 

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