The Business of Magazines

Seeing the current direction of American ELLE, seems possible Nina taking Vogue instead Edward in a few years. But they fired Alt last year, equal to Garcia in terms of experience. The future is so unclear.
 
Maybe including guys at Vogue is an strategy to appeal gay man or genderless Gen Z type because it's so different (even with Will Welch) to the public that reads GQ. It's really silly having already a men's magazine that pairs with Vogue. Now Conde Nast it's so bold killing historic titles (L'Uomo and Vogue Hommes), selling them (W magazine), changing their names (Vogue France) or their identity (the global sharing). Maybe the want to kill GQ too. Since Roger Lynch took the helm, there's zero respect to CN history.
 
How hard can it be to produce and publish a separate mens supplement like L'uomo? Unless they're planning to convert into a quarterly brick of a magazine like AnOther or Dazed, this genderless shtick is a no go.

That's what i suggested the other day, it will be the best way to portrait Vogue for women and men..but let's face it maybe it's not gonna work...
 
All this talk about genderless Vogue coming from the 'reputable' Daily Mail? Lol, I thought we all knew by now that anything coming from that publication is supposed to be taken with not a grain but bowl of salt?
 
Part of me also wonders about any man at the helm of a woman's magazine, especially as he grows older, and becomes a 50-to-60-year-old man trying to relate and create content for teenage girls and upwards. A woman editor may be in her 60s, but throughout her life, she has accumulated the lived experience to directly relate to a female readership at different stages in their lives. But if you make your magazine genderless, then this doesn't matter, it's not needed.

This issue really stuck out to me when I was skimming the Harper's Bazaar archives and looking at issues under Anthony Mazzola. Just a mess, by someone who had no business being the editor of the magazine. *shudder*

"Genderless" Vogue is just an excuse to fold any remaining men's magazines (GQ, do they have anything else left?) into Vogue. His comment about gay men *always* buying Vogue, was a bit.. I know that there are men interested in both men and women's fashion, so they bought Vogue/GQ, whatever, but there are so many men (including gay men) who are just interested in men's fashion and he's idiotic if he thinks those men are going to buy Vogue.
 
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Kanye was promoting Edward’s book today. Just thought that was funny.
 
This issue really stuck out to me when I was skimming the Harper's Bazaar archives and looking at issues under Anthony Mazzola. Just a mess, by someone who had no business being the editor of the magazine. *shudder*

"Genderless" Vogue is just an excuse to fold any remaining men's magazines (GQ, do they have anything else left?) into Vogue. His comment about gay men *always* buying Vogue, was a bit.. I know that there are men interested in both men and women's fashion, so they bought Vogue/GQ, whatever, but there are so many men (including gay men) who are just interested in men's fashion and he's idiotic if he thinks those men are going to buy Vogue.
I buy both for that reason every month. Love the fashion editorials for female readers, the poetry in Franca's VI inspired me to buy fashion magazines for woman. But also I love the portrait of men, and how different is from woman. The idea of publish a Vogue for woman and other for men in Italy and France was brilliant and makes me sad that it didn't work, because guys don't read fashion magazines if they want to find inspiration. They find it in their icons (singers, actors, athlethes). Genderless Vogue is a bad excuse to kill other magazine and save more money.
 
Remember when we were asking if putting a man at the helm of Vogue was a good idea? This is what we were referring to. At time when women's rights are being dialed back, Vogue needs strong female voices empowering female readers. If ever there was a time Vogue should be more than just fashion, now is it.
 
Remember when we were asking if putting a man at the helm of Vogue was a good idea? This is what we were referring to. At time when women's rights are being dialed back, Vogue needs strong female voices empowering female readers. If ever there was a time Vogue should be more than just fashion, now is it.
This is why I'm convinced the rumors of Edward going to US Vogue are ridiculous. As much of a mess Conde Nast is these days, even they are wise enough to know you cannot have a man as the head of America's biggest fashion magazine. (By the way, I'm a gay man, and I buy Vogue for the photography, and I think it'd be absurd to create "genderless" fashion mags).
 
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ahaha love at the end when he said ''right now...'' ahaha but in a couple of years... ahahaa
 
What happened to LOVE Magazine?! Is it dead as Vogue Hommes and L'Uomo?
 
MCI shortens permit of Vogue Singapore for nudity, content promoting 'non-traditional families'
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Vogue Singapore's April 2022 cover featuring Doja Cat, and November/December 2021 cover featuring Gemma Chan. (Photo: Facebook/Vogue Singapore)



Ian Cheng

14 Oct 2022 10:32PM (Updated: 14 Oct 2022 11:14PM)
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SINGAPORE: The Ministry of Communications and Information (MCI) issued Vogue Singapore a stern warning, and shortened its permit from one year to six months for breaching content guidelines, it said on Friday (Oct 14).

According to the press release, Vogue Singapore breached the content guidelines for local lifestyle magazines on four occasions within the past two years, for nudity and content that promoted non-traditional families.

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During the period of Vogue Singapore’s breaches, the content guidelines have remained the same, said MCI, adding that Vogue Singapore is required to comply with the content guidelines as part of its permit conditions, which includes not undermining prevailing social norms.

"As a matter of process, Vogue Singapore’s current one-year permit has been revoked with effect from Oct 13, 2022," it added.

"Vogue Singapore has re-applied and MCI has since issued Vogue Singapore a six-month permit."

An MCI spokesperson told CNA that the last time a permit was shortened was when action was taken against local arts magazine Art Republik in 2014 for two severe breaches of the content guidelines for "religiously insensitive/ denigrative content".

Earlier cases include Cleo, which was placed on shorter permit in 2008, and Singapore FHM, which was placed on shorter permit in 1998. Both magazines made repeated breaches pertaining to content on sex, nudity and the promotion of promiscuity and permissive lifestyle, said the spokesperson.


MCI shortens permit of Vogue Singapore for nudity, content promoting 'non-traditional families'
 
Doesn't get more pathetic than people being outraged over female nipples. Get a grip.

Where are they getting this from? I've never seen Vogue Singapore be even remotely controversial.
 
^^^ It’s not so much a facade as there’s a polite tolerance level that will be enforced when the strict limits are pushed-- and always has, going back to their independence in the 1960s.

When Insta censors a woman’s nips, don’t think it’s unreasonable for a region that’s heavily guided by conservative Islamic morals to reign back at any displays deemed sexual. Isn’t fair to dismiss their longstanding, more conservative morals and values alongside their economic growth and success as a facade. Conservative values have always been a part of their culture-- they're not hiding it. (Funny how so many rage on about the evils of Western colonization— yet expect all other countries and their cultures to bide by the liberal standards of the West LOL)
 
Vogue SG's EIC Norman Tan just resigned and is headed to Apple.

An article detailing Trouble at Vogue SG:
Trouble At Vogue SG

Trouble At Vogue SG



Will there be a second exit?


The latest issue of Vogue SG, out just today, with Jackson Wang on the cover. Photo: Jim Sim

Is Vogue SG not destined to enjoy longevity here? Or a glorious life? Will the comeback publication meet with the same fate as its former self? These questions followed media reports (even in Malaysia) that the validity of its license to publish has been halved—from its current one-year permit—after the publishing of a quartet of editorials deemed unsuitable for Singaporean consumption. According to The Straits Times this morning, the Ministry of Communication and Information (MCI) stated that the Singaporean edition of the global fashion title “had breached the content guidelines for local lifestyle magazines on four occasions within the past two years, for nudity and content that promoted non-traditional families”, despite what ST called “a stern warning”. MCI also disclosed that the license of Vogue SG was, in fact, revoked with effect yesterday, but the magazine—finally a monthly this October (they were, since the launch, a bi-monthly)—reapplied and was granted the six months. Publisher of Vogue SG Media Publishares (former Indochine Media Ventures or IMV), has not responded to the media reports.

Before the news of this breach emerged, the word buzzing about last night in media circles was that Vogue SG’s editor-in-chief Norman Tan has resigned from his position. He would be, we heard, heading for the Big Apple to join Apple (we were not able to independently verify this, but he was in New York last month for NYFW and he could have taken time off to do something else?). As the news of the magazine’s recurrent infraction began to be quickly shared, we were sent, together with links to the news stories, the burning question: “Could this be one of the reasons Norman Tan decided to leave?”, with others adding, “coupled with the fact that he knows the title is not doing well?” A media old-timer also chimed in: “It is going to be hard for them to get brand support if they really have just six months left to operate.” When Mr Tan was appointed as the EIC in 2020, Vogue Sg’s socialite-publisher Bettina von Schlippe told the media that his “rich expertise in journalism and publishing makes us confident that he will present a new and exciting vision for the title, while upholding the values of the brand.” She made no mention of upholding the values of the nation and its people.


Norman Tan, right, with Condé Nast’s global chief content officer Anna Wintour. Photo: musingmutley/Instagram

Norman Tan’s appointment at Vogue SG was, at that time, a surprise to some in the publishing industry. Mr Tan, a former lawyer, was editing two IMV titles prior, Buro and Esquire SG. He had not, until Vogue SG, directed the content of a woman’s magazine and yet he secured the post in what many (still) consider a “fashion bible”. Some observers thought he was handed the job because IMV wanted to choose from within, rather than hire someone more experienced and, inevitably, expensive (this was when COVID-19 would soon become a pandemic, affecting many editorial budgets) from outside. Moreover, Mr Tan is an eager and prolific social media user, a position that stood him in great stead, as magazine editors were expected to have conspicuous and well-followed online profiles. And he did create a Vogue SG that seemed to appeal to those who are digitally aware, who live their lives digitally, too. Last September, the magazine offered a pair of covers that were available as NSTs and this month, a virtual lounge Club Vogue—the Metaverse from the start, in fact, a recurring theme.

But has it been one Vogue that we could proudly call our own? Was there an identifiable—and relatable—identity? No one expected Vogue SG to look like the more-than-six-decades-old Her World. Mr Tan seemed to prefer a visually more edgy magazine—high on style, paltry on substance—for the market, with covers that have often been experimental (blue hands on face?) or over-styled, and unconventionally lit, sporting almost no blurb. In the ‘Editor’s Letter’ of the latest issue, he quoted Ms Wintour deferentially: “Vogue is always looking forward”. To lean that way, he picked “icons” and “mavericks” and, as MCI noted, near-nakedness and the “non-traditional” (could one of the stories MCI found objectionable be ‘Four LGBTQIA+ Advocates Share their Experiences Growing Up in Singapore’?). A former magazine journalist said to us, “it seems he’s creating a magazine for his friends, for his followers, but how much of the market do they make up?” On Instagram, Mr Tan has 27.5K followers. Is that large enough? One gripe we keep hearing is that the visually-focused magazine seems to be shaped by “angmo hands”. The EIC is, in fact, a Chinese-Australian from Melbourne, and the president of Media Publishares is the publishing veteran Michael Von Schlippe, the husband of Bettina Von Schlippe.


October issue of Vogue SG with two different covers on the rack in Kinokuniya. Photo: Zhao Xiangji

Mr Tan is inclined to Vogue-speak, calling his editorial charge in this October issue “a barometer for what’s round the corner”, just as Condé Nast has been labelling Vogue a “cultural barometer for a global audience”. It is possible that Mr Tan took “global audience” very seriously so that he could go beyond the shores of this sadly too-small island market. Condé Nast announced last August that this year’s “September issue of Vogue is centered around the idea of ‘new Beginnings’—an initiative that brings together all 27 editions of Vogue (ours is the 27th) as a powerful and emotive mark of unity (shared editorials are part of their cost-cutting measures) and message of hope for Vogue’s global community, looking ahead to a post-pandemic world.” How much of the Vogue Sg identity, if it were ever established, was sacrificed for this “unity”? A marketing consultant told us, “When I read Vogue Thailand, I feel they are communicating with Thais, but when I read Vogue SG, I don’t sense that they are talking to me.“ Is it erroneous then to ask if Vogue SG is an influential fashion and lifestyle magazine? Who really reads Vogue?

At Kinokuniya this morning, the latest (local) mouthpiece of the “global fashion authority”, as Condé Nast describes its most famous title, had just arrived. With most other publishing houses, an October issue out in the middle of the month is considered late—very late. The current month of Vogue SG comes with two covers: one with Jackson Wang (王嘉尔) and the other, CL (aka Lee Chae-rin), with, strangely, no accompanying story while Mr Wang is given one page to talk about his new album Magic Man. The magazines had just been placed on the five-tier rack when we visited the store; they were yet to be flipped, all in a pristine state. A massive carton of the said title, still unboxed, sat in the middle of the aisle. A staff came by and we asked, pointing to the magazine: “does our Vogue sell well?” She happily replied in the affirmative. Really? “Yes, we expect this issue to sell out,” she enthused. Really? ”Yes, because of the two stars on the cover.” As a Facebook post on the Jackson Wang Malaysia Fan Club page considered, “这次的杂志不买来收藏真的对不起自己 (if this issue of the magazine is not bought for collecting, we’ll do ourselves a great wrong)”. What about the other issues, we wondered. “Oh,” she hesitated, then said, ”not so.” We turned the final question to ourselves: Six months later, will we be writing the obituary of Vogue SG?
 
^^^ Thanks Paul.

Frankly, this rag was never good from the beginning. Good riddance.

It was too youth-oriented in a sensibility that was already common fodder— too CGI-generate, too disposable, too SM-influenced, with this amateur-sheen. There was nothing leading nor forward-thinking about such a fleeting, juvenile direction that came off completely tone-deaf to its politely-conservative and bourgeois region. Stop following Western SM trending content.

Why is it so hard for these supposed “richly-experienced” professionals to grasp the very simple importance to understand your region, your reader, and produce content accordingly while giving them a reason to feel inspired to pay for your content???
 
Why is it so hard for these supposed “richly-experienced” professionals to grasp the very simple importance to understand your region, your reader, and produce content accordingly while giving them a reason to feel inspired to pay for your content???

It's fairly simple, social media and online presence became the first priority over the reader. As much as I'm grateful to live in the age of Internet and instant access, I often wonder how exciting it would've been to experience having to buy magazines in order to see what's inside.
 

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