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But hasn’t US Vogue always been about that? A corporate/mass-appeal vision of Fashion for (what needs to be said) a rather conservative society?Honestly, I’m quite surprised to see all your expectations on this. Anna is one of the most boring editors out there for the past five years. The woman doesn’t have blood on her veins. It’s just corporate fashion. The content doesn’t matter anymore because they only pay attention on how it’s going to be virtually accepted. Vogue is dead. I couldn’t care less about Vogue. The only one who’s worthy is Emmanuelle and her job isn’t particularly strong. But I think the blandness/laziness of the other editions always help her a lot.
And don’t get me wrong: I understand that magazine industry is seriously struggling. This is not 2007. They can’t not afford Meisel and a super production anymore. So I appreciate the effort they’re doing despise the circumstances. But, then again, they can’t make excuses out of the budget. Look at what Emmanuelle did two months ago: all you need is a right team with a good eye and powerful ideas to execute.
At least I’m glad they took it seriously this month. It’s time to give the other ethnicities some visibility.
But if I want to see fashion and get delighted, I’ll always be waiting for Self Service, M le Monde or WSJ...
Vogue is not that place anymore.
^See InStyle's September issue. That's what we were expecting, but with a more prestigious cast and crew. I mean, Laura Brown somehow managed to pull Vincent van de Wijngaard and Saskia de Brauw for a filler editorial (and to just prove how out of touch with fashion she is, foolishly relegated them to the back of the magazine). Are you telling me Anna couldn't get any of the many black photographers/models/actresses to shoot her cover?
I can't believe she is expecting the celebrity-obsessed readers she cultivated for decades to suddenly buy these covers featuring virtual unknowns, one who doesn't even exist in real life!?! Makes no sense to me at all. This will be their worst-selling September issue in years and that won't be on the artists but on her.
Nothing against Aurora James, but will US Vogue's international readers know who she is? Why not Joan Smalls who pledged half her wage towards the movement for the rest of 2020 and looks set to do the same in a smaller capacity for 20121? Some will say 'but it's American Vogue, for Americans', well guess what, the influence and power they wield is due to the fact that it's the most sought after and prestigious fashion magazine in the world. Despite having the least interesting fashion week of the top 4, and not even the force when it comes to the manufacturing of fashion clothing.
Can't wait to see the page and ad count of this issue.
Wait, are you referring to Anna Wintour? I thought most people hated her on here.Lol, this magazine is a damn joke. Is this why the cover was released so late, because it’s a tacit acknowledgement that VF had this idea first and thus had to wait for that cover to be released? Not to mention, Edward doing this in August. But this is tFS’ queen, right?
And I’m not impressed with this little pledge either, Colonial Broad will just commission BIPOCs to photograph and style eds featuring other BIPOCs, her precious British starlets will still be photographed and styled by white photogs and stylists while she’s still there which shouldn’t be too much longer.
I just can't believe all the complaining and moaning that is going on on here.
The United States as a country has 5 million cases of Covid19, 180,000 deaths in 5 months and a crisis we haven't seen in generations. Black citizens are executed in the streets, racists have been emboldened by this administration, the industry is on the brink of a collapse, brands and companies are laying off people at a pace never seen before, and people are pouting because Scarlett Johannson is not on the September cover of Vogue. Hmkay.
The common thread for all the Conde Nast editions was Hope and they all approached the concept in different ways, struggling with different circumstances that changed country by country.
Vogue US decided to give exposure to fine artists, reminiscing of the beautiful Vogue covers of the 1920s and 1930's and it's a nice choice for a change CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES. So what? Take a deep breath and relax and just hope that things will go back to normal, if they ever will.
I read all the messages on here and I have seen the following words used multiple times: ugly, depressing, hate, desperation. The moderator of this thread referred to these covers as 'crap'. Some moderation.
Imagine if the artists selected by Vogue for this cover happened to read these messages. In a rare occasion when they are being given incredible exposure and recognition by one of the most important publications in the world a bunch of accomplished creative directors, art directors, EICs and stylists are tearing their work apart...Oh wait, you are none of that.
And there goes the Hope message.
The tone deafness, disrespect and the naiveté on display here are staggering. It takes my breath away.
The common thread for all the Conde Nast editions was Hope and they all approached the concept in different ways, struggling with different circumstances that changed country by country.
Vogue US decided to give exposure to fine artists, reminiscing of the beautiful Vogue covers of the 1920s and 1930's and it's a nice choice for a change CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES. So what? Take a deep breath and relax and just hope that things will go back to normal, if they ever will.
I read all the messages on here and I have seen the following words used multiple times: ugly, depressing, hate, desperation. The moderator of this thread referred to these covers as 'crap'. Some moderation.
lolVogue US decided to give exposure to fine artists, reminiscing of the beautiful Vogue covers of the 1920s and 1930's
And we dont have to.I read all the messages on here and I have seen the following words used multiple times: ugly, depressing, hate, desperation. The moderator of this thread referred to these covers as 'crap'. Some moderation.
Imagine if the artists selected by Vogue for this cover happened to read these messages. In a rare occasion when they are being given incredible exposure and recognition by one of the most important publications in the world a bunch of accomplished creative directors, art directors, EICs and stylists are tearing their work apart...Oh wait, you are none of that.
Second of all, so just because the artist might read my comments I'm supposed to sugarcoat it and pretend I like it? Please. Any self respecting artist would dread such lies. Of course this is an amazing opportunity for the artist and I think they should be very proud, but I still don't like their painting. And that's something that comes with the job! There will always be people who dislike certain things, so let's just agree to disagree because we clearly have a different taste here. You think this is a nice choice for a change considering the circumstances, I don't. So why is it so hard to accept?
If you're not satisfied with my moderating techniques, please do contact me privately and suggest what I might do to fix it. Seeing as you know so much about things, I'd be very happy to hear what you've got to say!
lol
And we dont have to.
As an artist you have to reckon with the fact that not everyone will like your work. Everyone has the right to have their own opinion and if you agree to publish in such an important magazine as vogue you must be ready for criticism. Artists who created these monstrosities are not 5 years old and I am pretty sure they won't cry because of negative comments posted here.
I just can't believe all the complaining and moaning that is going on on here.
The United States as a country has 5 million cases of Covid19, 180,000 deaths in 5 months and a crisis we haven't seen in generations. Black citizens are executed in the streets, racists have been emboldened by this administration, the industry is on the brink of a collapse, brands and companies are laying off people at a pace never seen before, and people are pouting because Scarlett Johannson is not on the September cover of Vogue. Hmkay.
The common thread for all the Conde Nast editions was Hope and they all approached the concept in different ways, struggling with different circumstances that changed country by country.
Vogue US decided to give exposure to fine artists, reminiscing of the beautiful Vogue covers of the 1920s and 1930's and it's a nice choice for a change CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES. So what? Take a deep breath and relax and just hope that things will go back to normal, if they ever will.
I read all the messages on here and I have seen the following words used multiple times: ugly, depressing, hate, desperation. The moderator of this thread referred to these covers as 'crap'. Some moderation.
Imagine if the artists selected by Vogue for this cover happened to read these messages. In a rare occasion when they are being given incredible exposure and recognition by one of the most important publications in the world a bunch of accomplished creative directors, art directors, EICs and stylists are tearing their work apart...Oh wait, you are none of that.
And there goes the Hope message.
The tone deafness, disrespect and the naiveté on display here are staggering. It takes my breath away.
'I hate this crap' is an opinion, sure. I am not in any way saying that you don't have the right to express your opinion but may I be allowed to comment on how childish, hurtful and dismissive it sounds? This is my opinion and is as valid as yours, I presume. Can we comment on opinions or opinions are totems?
Thing is, we are no longer the target audience of Vogue, more so the suits in Conde Nast. Considering how well received these are all over social media, I guess they'll see it as a success.
Lest we be reminded that we are at the dawn of the digital age. It might not happen soon, but all publishing houses see their future in digital. You won't survive in the digital world if you don't catch up with what the users like - political correctness.
Hate political correctness in fashion magazines for all you want, but the next generation of readers (physically or digitally) prioritize political correctness above all else (rightfully so).
The time has come wherein a magazine, more so a fashion magazine, will not survive if it chooses to void itself from the realities of life.
Good luck selling a magazine with a pro lifer/all lives matter/birther supporter on the cover. Even if you put them in head to toe couture, you'd be dragged to filth even before the issue gets released.
TBH I expect that there will come a time wherein Vogue will start boycotting certain brands because there are issues on certain brands' use of "unpaid labor" and the people have called it out and called for action. I see it happening.
How Farnetti foreshadowed the entirety of 2020 in his January issue is insane.
The tone deafness, disrespect and the naiveté on display here are staggering.