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Valentino Pre-Fall 2008

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i really like what i see so far...

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Facchinetti's wool and cashmere felt coat with a suede tassled belt for Valentino, another look from pre-fall

There was no red in sight, just a hint of cerise.

In town to present her first Valentino effort for pre-fall, Alessandra Facchinetti showed a few new shades for the iconic fashion house, while balancing structure and lightness.

Facchinetti experimented with proportion, teaming a structured body with bell-like ruched sleeves, chiffon pleated to an origami effect and tasseled bow belts. The overall effect had a lightness and ease to it without forsaking the namesake's sophistication and elegance.

The pre-fall collection was a teaser of the designer's vision for Valentino. Since being named creative director of the women's collections in September, Facchinetti has spent her days studying the designer's extensive archive, turning garments inside-out to learn about their impeccable construction. Facchinetti oversees the couture and ready-to-wear collections, as well as the RED and Roma secondary lines. Valentino himself will be retiring after the haute couture shows in Paris next month.

"What I am doing is trying to establish my aesthetic into a Valentino frame," said Facchinetti. "This is a house where couture was the main aspect. I want to explore the culture of couture.

"I want to keep the culture of the house in terms of gowns, but lighten it up," she added.

Facchinetti said she made a conscious effort to create an expansive assortment for pre-fall.

"For me, it was very important to show from the first collection that the direction is complete, that there isn't just evening, but that we are also approaching day," she said.

"I am working on coats, shirts and jackets in a basic way and then adding something that was a part of my compromise with the past and the present," she added. "We are trying to build a collection that maintains the established business of the past and moves toward something new. There is a definite intention to build a balance. This will be a new part of the Valentino history, a new era."

Unlike many other venerable fashion houses that have chosen to forgo their costly and rarely profitable haute couture divisions, Facchinetti couldn't conceal her excitement at working with Valentino's couture atelier in February, after the designer's final runway bow. "There is a workroom which is the strongest in the world," she said.

Facchinetti, who moved onto the fashion radar after a short-lived stint as head of women's wear at Gucci, said she was made to feel very welcome at Valentino, although she hasn't yet met Valentino himself — "We tried," she said — but has spoken to his business partner, Giancarlo Giammetti, on the phone. She said that, fashion-wise, she feels like something of a kindred spirit to the legendary designer.

"You can't imagine how honored I am," Facchinetti said. "It was the last thing I thought would happen. I can't compare Valentino with anyone. He is a part of the history of fashion. This is a new start."

Facchinetti added she will treasure all the Valentino elements and history "like a jewel. I really feel very close to him and his sense of beauty, romance and femininity. But I don't want to compare myself with him at all. For me, the best gift is if he is happy about what I am doing, but I am a different person. I am a woman."

That said, Valentino's own extravagant lifestyle has always been inextricably linked to the appeal of the clothes, a notion Facchinetti is very aware of, but not too perturbed by. "He spent 40 years and I am just starting," she said. "I want to improve on the complete view of Valentino, and explore the lifestyle of the house.

"Today, I feel much clearer about what I want and who I am," she added, perhaps with a nod to her stint at Gucci. "The approach is really me and it's my aesthetic. Valentino was very focused on beauty and timelessness, and this is ultimately my approach."

Facchinetti, who landed in New York on Sunday, plans to return to Italy today.

"I love New York, I love walking here," she said, adding that in her free time she would like to check out the New Museum on the Bowery and dine at her favorite Manhattan eatery, Bottega del Vino.

"For me, it was very important to come to New York," Facchinetti said. "I want to be here to explain what I am doing. I always feel it's important to meet in person, and to explain the way I work, and the way the pieces are constructed so that people understand who I am."
 
It doesn't look very Valentino to me either. Yes I know that it is only two pictures that have been posted...

The colour is dull and the sillouhettes are horrible and boxy, Valentino is a fashion house which caters beautiful, feminine clothes with sexy shapes for glamazons..I can't imagine seeing the old Valentino clientele wearing this...

:sick:....there's still hope right?..
 
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Am I wrong in finding it extremely strange that she hasn't even met Valentino, and yet she is in full control of this new era under his name? I would think that he had taken her under his wing and given some sort of apprenticeship.

That first grey coat is promising... I actually love the scrunchy effect of the sleeves, although I'm wondering how that looks when the model's hands aren't shoved in her pockets. The second look is rather dowdy.
 
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The second picture doesn't impress me at all looks like something from Zac Posen. But the grey looks gorgeous love the scrunched up effect the fabric looks great too. :heart:

Dutty, I find it wierd too...she hasn't met Valentino? I would meet the person that is suceeding me.
 
how on earth could you tell by these two small photos that it is or isn't valentino? give the girl a break!
 
how on earth could you tell by these two small photos that it is or isn't valentino? give the girl a break!

I know! It is really too early to judge her and we really don't have anything to judge her by considering these two photos. Let's be fair. :judge:
 
how on earth could you tell by these two small photos that it is or isn't valentino? give the girl a break!

Yes, I very much agree.

It seems like an overreaction to judge a collection based on what has been posted so far.

Besides, I think it doesn't have to look like the old Valentino since it's now Alessandra Facchinetti for Valentino. I'd be glad if she shows her own vision on the brand.
 
omg wtf is this? The TRUE Valentino would be much more colourful and much more sexy. That second skirt is the most UN-Valentino thing Ive ever seen. I hate it. Bring the real Valentino back. Id rather see no label than this junk.
 
I kind of like it. I think it has certain elements that are signature Valentino, but done in a more subdued and more minimal way. This is Facchinetti, not Valentino. You can't expect any new designer at an established house to make carbon copies of the founding designers work....that would be pointless. The job of a new designer is to take the house's archives and incorporate it into their own aesthetic, not be slaves to the archives.

Plus, how can we judge her with two pictures? Let's wait until we see a few of her collections before we start making such final judgments!
 
^ I understand your point, but our expectations of Valentino have always been the same year after year and now we're just seeing some things we're not used to.
 
^ I understand your point, but our expectations of Valentino have always been the same year after year and now we're just seeing some things we're not used to.
Well, it's understandable to have a certain expectation, but it's only natural that with a new designer, those expectations won't be met.

Plus, Valentino was always the same, really. Don't get me wrong, I loved him, but he rarely did anything new, but that was OK because he was so good at what he did it didn't matter that we saw the same thing from him, season in and season out. So, to be honest, I'm excited to see what Facchinetti does with the house...where she takes it, how she makes it new, how she uses the Valentino archives. I'm sure she'll do well.
 
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I agree with you Dior Couture...
I believe Alessandra Facchinetti will do a good job.
It's different from what Valentino does.
But change is sometimes good.
I like the first look.
Though it is certainly no Valentino.
But I am basing my opinion off two looks.
I would have to see the whole collection.
 

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