Boys And The Hoodie

[Johnny]

I'm a tory supporting guardian reader, paradox?

Can't be many of them

 

[screenage]

lol

 

[Lena]

Lena - i don't even notice them anymore. thats the scary thing I guess.

yes, so true, this is the scariest part about it helena

great discussion guys

 

[PrinceOfCats]

I'm a tory supporting guardian reader, paradox?

Half of the Guardian writers might as well be Tories Moaning about 'New Labour' being too right wing, ID cards, tuition fees etc is just middle class self-indulgence... I'm all for rampant Toynbeeism.

Whilst bored in economics class I formulated a plan for solving all of society's ills - the government quintuples spending until the country is way into the red, then they send out hit squads to shoot morally dubious rich people (Murdoch is top, natch) and strip them of all of their assets to fill the coffers again. Anyone not morally dubious gets hit by the 99% inheritance tax on all assets over a certain amount. The genius part of it? If the rich don't like it they can leave...after they've paid 99% immigration tax... Simple.

 

[Lena]

do you wear your hood high your highness?

 

[PrinceOfCats]

do you wear your hood high your highness?

The only hooded top I own is Balenciaga - such a fashion victim

Also in Newcastle yon teenage vandal wears a Berghaus Mera Peak instead of a hoodie so they can hide stuff they've nicked down the sleeves. One of the charming little buggers attempted to headbutt me the month before last - such a shame he was about half a foot shorter than me!

 

[Lena]

here hot, just came up at the bbcworld

A school could help restore the reputation of the notorious hooded top after making it part of its uniform.


Richard Haigh, principal of Coombeshead College, Newton Abbot, Devon, has criticised "hysterical" stereotyping of 'hoodie' wearers as thugs.

"Most young people are fine, upstanding citizens, and some of them wear hoodies. Why should they be tarred with this rather hysterical brush?" he said.

Bluewater shopping centre, Greenhithe, Kent, last week banned hooded tops.

This was part of a new code of conduct for visitors aimed at tackling anti-social behaviour at the complex.

"It's the behaviour that's the problem, not the clothing," Mr Haigh said on Thursday.

He added: "If you know how young people's minds work, the best way of encouraging them to do something is to ban it.

I am disappointed by the lack of subtlety in dealing with the hoodie problem

Richard Haigh
Principal, Coombeshead College, in a letter to the Times

"The more fuss we make about hoodies and baseball caps, the more a certain type of young person will want to wear them."

Hooded tops have been part of the uniform at Coombeshead College, a 1,600-strong media and arts college, for two years.

Between 10 and 15% of students wear them, the headmaster estimated.

They are only allowed to put up the hoods when it is raining.

In a letter that he described as "tongue in cheek" to the Times on Wednesday, Mr Haigh wrote: "I am disappointed by the lack of subtlety in dealing with the hoodie problem. "Follow our example and make them part of school uniform. How uncool does that make them?"

 

[tott]

Great!

 

[Lena]

If you know how young people's minds work, the best way of encouraging them to do something is to ban it.
"The more fuss we make about hoodies and baseball caps, the more a certain type of young person will want to wear them."

i so agree with this point here

 

[screenage]

Half of the Guardian writers might as well be Tories Moaning about 'New Labour' being too right wing, ID cards, tuition fees etc is just middle class self-indulgence... I'm all for rampant Toynbeeism.

Whilst bored in economics class I formulated a plan for solving all of society's ills - the government quintuples spending until the country is way into the red, then they send out hit squads to shoot morally dubious rich people (Murdoch is top, natch) and strip them of all of their assets to fill the coffers again. Anyone not morally dubious gets hit by the 99% inheritance tax on all assets over a certain amount. The genius part of it? If the rich don't like it they can leave...after they've paid 99% immigration tax... Simple.

I really do think inheritance tax is disgusting. The government tax you on what you earn, they tax you more for being rich, they tax you on your clothes, cars etc. you die and they still tax you! Argh, I really am not paying tax to this country- which unfortunately means I can only spend like 90 days a year here!

 

[screenage]

In a letter that he described as "tongue in cheek" to the Times on Wednesday, Mr Haigh wrote: "I am disappointed by the lack of subtlety in dealing with the hoodie problem. "Follow our example and make them part of school uniform. How uncool does that make them?"

me-loves-that.

 

[PrinceOfCats]

I really do think inheritance tax is disgusting. The government tax you on what you earn, they tax you more for being rich, they tax you on your clothes, cars etc. you die and they still tax you! Argh, I really am not paying tax to this country- which unfortunately means I can only spend like 90 days a year here!

You can't have capitalism without inheritance tax. In fact, any inheritance whatsoever is market failure...

 

[screenage]

Well here I was thinking that inheritance tax was socialist greed.

 

[PrinceOfCats]

Well here I was thinking that inheritance tax was socialist greed.

Yes, well now you know better, eh... 'Socialist greed' being a contradiction in terms aside.

 

[screenage]

Yes, well now you know better, eh... 'Socialist greed' being a contradiction in terms aside.

'tis not my dear; understanding socalism as

socialism

n 1: a political theory advocating state ownership of industry 2: an economic system based on state ownership of capital

a govenmetn so to speak advocating owning industry and other's capital , can intrinsically be greedy. Or maybe I should've rephrased my former statment to

The greed of the socialist parties"

 

[PrinceOfCats]

Personally I understand socialism as that which benefits the most people, something along utilatarian lines rather than Ingsoc...

 

[screenage]

Personally I understand socialism as that which benefits the most people, something along utilatarian lines rather than Ingsoc...

Ya I agree, socialist, I think labour (old labour), but the dictionary always has a "different spind".

 

[PrinceOfCats]

The dictionary is written by humans though, not godlike sphincters of wisdom (as you probably know).

 

[screenage]

And Man is the measure of all things, as you probably know too.

 

[PrinceOfCats]

Dunno about that - generally I prefer a ruler...