Designer & Fashion Insiders Behavior (PLEASE READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING)

[LadyJunon]

I'm kind of pissed off that people have dragged Lotta Volkova into this when she hasn't worked with Demna since 2019.

 

[MulletProof]

^ whatever, she's annoying.

Good old fashioned common sense that says don't sexualise kids (this is not some innocent childhood pic in the bath lol) + this is an attempt at 'edge' gone sideways (serves Balenciaga right for that), not some grand conspiracy.... right out the window.

Good old fashioned common sense that's hopefully aided by critical thinking and not lazy rationalization where you take points out of context and rearrange them to strenghten an argument on 'how black and white' it all is should also pave the way to gain insight on the political climate of a country -where perhaps you don't live- where there is no such a line and everything IS filed, indiscriminately (because again, critical thinking seems to be a commodity these days..) under conspirational theories to persuade and horrify the more brutish population on the medieval darkness and barbarity the 'others' enable and how that must be met with full heroic force, radicalization and violence if necessary.

 

[tctra]

the hypocrisy from the alt right knows no bounds. They keep dead silent on child pageantry - a mainstay of red southern states that doll up children in makeup and skimpy outfits and prance around for the entertainment of adults. Of course you'll never hear a peep about that. This is why I hate the current political culture wars on either side. Both so extreme you really have to shake your head

 

[Deleted member 116957]

the hypocrisy from the alt right knows no bounds. They keep dead silent on child pageantry - a mainstay of red southern states that doll up children in makeup and skimpy outfits and prance around for the entertainment of adults. Of course you'll never hear a peep about that. This is why I hate the current political culture wars on either side. Both so extreme you really have to shake your head

I'm sorry, but I still don't understand why people keep accusing ANYONE who's critical of these advertisements to be a "hypocrite" from the alt-right. Like, please... yeah, child beauty pageants are disgusting and so are these advertisements.

 

[Deleted member 7575]

I don't get this. Do you really think *nobody* thought Bratz dolls were inappropriate for children? (Exhibit A, Exhibit B, Exhibit C)

I think the ads are totally distasteful and no this isn't the first product that's been advertised provocatively with children, but I'm so amused by the fact that this ~*~transgressive~*~ designer is nowhere to be found amid the controversy. If he was truly trying to make a point, why not stand behind the "artistry" behind this ad campaign? That's the embarrassing part.

And yet they're still for sale and Mattel has not had to issue any apology.

 

[Deleted member 116957]

@Mutterlein Ahh, I realized I quoted that post in the wrong thread!!! I had too many tabs open. I removed it before you replied and put it back in the Demna thread.

 

[GivenchyHomme]

Adding more fuel to the fire

Axed Balenciaga campaign featured book by artist whose works include castrated toddlers

 

[tctra]

but I still don't understand why people keep accusing ANYONE who's critical of these advertisements to be a "hypocrite" from the alt-right.

because it's hypocritical when you denounce one and not the other. Fair if you're doing both but those in the political culture wars like tucker carlson selectively choose what to be outraged about

 

[Caffeine]

I'm sorry, but I still don't understand why people keep accusing ANYONE who's critical of these advertisements to be a "hypocrite" from the alt-right. Like, please... yeah, child beauty pageants are disgusting and so are these advertisements.

It's laughable to tie this to right wing stuff...as if the people in the middle, or put it more realistically, 99.9% of the population, endorse pedo behavior or child p*rn. Journalists have no morals nowadays.

 

[Hchloe]

Adding more fuel to the fire

Axed Balenciaga campaign featured book by artist whose works include castrated toddlers

Good god.

What an absolute disaster. Kering should fire everyone and do a full rebrand at this point. There's no coming back from this.

 

[gazebo]

My screenshot of google translate

 

[Steddycam91]

Remember when Marc Jacobs had Dakota Fanning star in the ad campaign for his S/S 2007 womenswear collection, shot by Juergen Teller, when she was 12? Or when Miuccia cast Ondria Hardin for a Prada campaign when she was 13? Or when Raf opened one of his Dior couture shows with a 14-year-old model in a transparent dress? Sure, they all sparked some controversy and chatter, but they never reached this level of public outrage and potentially calamitous consequences for their brands as a whole. A different time.

 

[LadyJunon]

Remember when Marc Jacobs had Dakota Fanning star in the ad campaign for his S/S 2007 womenswear collection, shot by Juergen Teller, when she was 12? Or when Miuccia cast Ondria Hardin for a Prada campaign when she was 13? Or when Raf opened one of his Dior couture shows with a 14-year-old model in a transparent dress? Sure, they all sparked some controversy and chatter, but they never reached this level of public outrage and potentially calamitous consequences for their brands as a whole. A different time.

In their defence, none of these were practically sexual in nature or in context. I think that the main shifts is that fashion is more open as an industry, trying to appeal to those who don't care for/despise its existence and the rise of populism from extremists having louder voices. Balenciaga's nasty acts validates both of these points of view.

 

[Deleted member 1957]

This 'scandal' is a result of the fashion industry embracing social media and the democracy of whats viral/trending defining the truth or modifying it and having so much power over the industry. The irony being that Balenciaga is one of the brands leading that particular movement. While it was a terrible idea using the kids with those toys and even more suspicious having the documents in the other shot, it still doesnt equate the backlash. This has gotten way more backlash than actual cases of paedophilia and child abuse and even murder that we see almost daily. Didnt see the same ammount of backlash against the Vatican or against the shootings in DC where a juvenile is almost killed daily. Once people added deep state and other conspiracies to the chat it lost credibility. I doubt the brand would go about promoting one of the most disgusting vices in human nature even if they were looking for shock value. They probably thought the contrast between innocent children and the punk(or supposedly S&M) themed toys would be a hit. Am not too familiar with S&M so I mostly see them as punk but I guess people more familiar with it can tell the symbolism. I saw influencers cutting up their bags and was like child please! Didnt y'all 'boycott' H&M and DG in the same way? Being influencers I wouldnt be surprised if they were cutting up fakes or doing it for online reach. I've seen people dragging everyone else including those that have modelled for the brand or that worked with the brand years back and others not even affiliated to the campaign, this is a sign of things to come. Social media is going to be the biggest villain.

 

[susseinmcswanny]

I think my favorite part of this so far is the people in all seriousness thinking the logo tape being cut off at "BA" stuck on the roll with "AL" underneath means balenciaga purposefully printed their name on the tape to include BAAL to worship the devil

 

[KoV]

Kanye must’ve been envious of Balenciaga stealing his thunder so he swooped in with the ol’ “I like Hitler”

 

[susseinmcswanny]

Kanye must’ve been envious of Balenciaga stealing his thunder so he swooped in with the ol’ “I like Hitler”

i just saw that omfg he is such a toddler

 

[Deleted member 1957]

I'm sorry, but I still don't understand why people keep accusing ANYONE who's critical of these advertisements to be a "hypocrite" from the alt-right. Like, please... yeah, child beauty pageants are disgusting and so are these advertisements.

Kanye must’ve been envious of Balenciaga stealing his thunder so he swooped in with the ol’ “I like Hitler”

Or his pal Demna organized for him to get a pay out to ease the Bal scandal

 

[gazebo]

Kanye must’ve been envious of Balenciaga stealing his thunder so he swooped in with the ol’ “I like Hitler”

 

[susseinmcswanny]

Damn… a lot going on lol