Lady GaGa (November 2010 - June 2011)

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why is she doing her promotion rounds so early if her album comes out in May...by then people will have forgotten about her album release. not very smart.
 
^Well she has Born This Way to sell, so she's promoting that. Plus she had a few days off until her tour kicks off again so doing interviews would be good.

Also, Born This Way has sold over 1million in 5 days. This is the fastest selling single in itunes history.
 
^holy Gaga, 1 million in 5 days? well, i bet sooner or later, she will be a legendary singer like Michael Jackson/Madonna? or is she already a legendary :)
 
i mean she is bracking records already,so if she is not a legend yet. im sure by the end of this year she will totally be! ^_^
 
^holy Gaga, 1 million in 5 days? well, i bet sooner or later, she will be a legendary singer like Michael Jackson/Madonna? or is she already a legendary :)

As legendary as Michael Jackson? :shock: No way. She doesn't even hold a candle to Madonna, let alone Michael Jackson.

Breaking and setting records does not make you a legend. That term is thrown around way to loosely these days, smh. Plus, we're living in the digital era of music, which is immensely helping Gaga's sales.
 
Out of the new pop starlets to come out these past few years, Gaga is probably amongst the few who may well become a "legend".

Considering her success at the moment is already beating out those who have been in the business for far longer and the amount of relevancy she has in todays pop culture, it's fair to say she's on the right track to become a "legend".

But that'll be years for her to be even considered to be one; especially considering artists like Britney and Christina hardly can be called "legends".
 
^ I agree, but even if Gaga had longevity in the industry she still wouldn't automatically qualify as a legend. It's about the impact you have and leave on future generations, and at the moment I can't see her being able to do that. She's too much of a Madonna by-product to have that impact, imo.
 
^ I agree, but even if Gaga had longevity in the industry she still wouldn't automatically qualify as a legend. It's about the impact you have and leave on future generations, and at the moment I can't see her being able to do that. She's too much of a Madonna by-product to have that impact, imo.

It really depends.

Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey can be called "legends" and even they aren't exactly Madonna-esque in terms of musical influence or innovative.

Considering Gaga has a legion of millions of adoring fans who look up to her, who knows maybe one day a few of those fans will become super stars in the future.

I mean, if every other artist didn't mention Michael Jackson or Madonna as their influence, would they be called legends? Or just another pop artist who sold a lot of records?
 
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^ Is that gif aimed at me? If so... wanting to make a difference and actually doing so are two worlds apart. Every artist wants to make a difference, that's why they do what they do. If they didn't, then why bother?


It really depends.

Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey can be called "legends" and even they aren't exactly Madonna-esque in terms of musical influence or innovative.

Considering Gaga has a legion of millions of adoring fans who look up to her, who knows maybe one day a few of those fans will become super stars in the future.

I mean, if every other artist didn't mention Michael Jackson or Madonna as their influence, would they be called legends? Or just another pop artist who sold a lot of records?

Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey are known predominantly for their voices and have indeed influenced artists of today, just like Minnie Ripperton, Aretha Franklin, Chaka Khan and Gladys Knight influenced them with solely their voices. Comparing a vocalist to someone like Madonna, whose influence goes way beyond music, is like comparing apples to oranges.

Also, I'm not sure if I understand your last question. Are you saying that if artists didn't mention their influences then they'd be seen as more original and legendary because we'd have nothing to compare them to? If that is what you're trying to say, then no, I still don't think they would be called legends. It takes way more than a few years of popularity to reach that status, regardless of who you're influenced or not influenced by.
 
Also, I'm not sure if I understand your last question. Are you saying that if artists didn't mention their influences then they'd be seen as more original and legendary because we'd have nothing to compare them to? If that is what you're trying to say, then no, I still don't think they would be called legends. It takes way more than a few years of popularity to reach that status, regardless of who you're influenced or not influenced by.

I think Leeroi was saying if artists today didn't always mention MJ or Madonna like they do, those two probably wouldn't have been considered legends.
But if you ask me, they (especially Mike!) are called legends because they are.-_-
 
I've heard "legendary", "iconic", etc adjectives to describe Stefani. The truth is it is all smoke and mirrors, and alot of people are falling for her gimmicks. I do respect some of her socio-cultural stances, but "born this way", was done already, it was called "express yourself", "alejandro", was done already, it was called "la isla bonita", and this whole fixation with Fame and Death, decay, was coined by Andy Warhol. She is a crucible of "inspirations", derivative, and there is nothing legendary about that. Madonna's legacy is reinvention, cultural-political reform, changing perception of sexuality, gender, race, religion, and she was an original. Stefani is not original. She started out on MTV's "boiling point".
 
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Please look at this website below and scroll through, it's not about Gaga's style per say, but it's about Madonna's showing she wasn't quite as unique at changing the perception of 'sexuality, gender, race, religion, and she was an original.'

At the end of the day what makes an artist legendary or iconic is there ability to last in the music business and at over 1 billion youtube views, the fastest ever selling single on itunes, the most followers on twitter etc, I wouldn't under sell her just yet. Because just like Madonna I think we'll all be seeing Gaga around in 40 or 50 years..

http://www.aishamusic.com/lawsuit_many_artists_madonna_stole_from.htm
 
Please look at this website below and scroll through, it's not about Gaga's style per say, but it's about Madonna's showing she wasn't quite as unique at changing the perception of 'sexuality, gender, race, religion, and she was an original.'

At the end of the day what makes an artist legendary or iconic is there ability to last in the music business and at over 1 billion youtube views, the fastest ever selling single on itunes, the most followers on twitter etc, I wouldn't under sell her just yet. Because just like Madonna I think we'll all be seeing Gaga around in 40 or 50 years..

http://www.aishamusic.com/lawsuit_many_artists_madonna_stole_from.htm
Thank you for that link and what you said.

amore per moda, let me just say that if we were in 1985, you would probably be saying the exact same things your saying about Gaga... to Madonna.

Everyone in this industry is a "by-product" of someone or something (even Madonna and Michael Jackson). We ALL take in influences and it creates who we are. I'm just happy that we have another empowering figure in the music industry that's trying to help instill confidence in the "different" and, to be honest, Gaga has empowered me personally and Madonna hasn't (which his weird because as you say Gaga is just a byproduct of Madonna) and no I'm not 13 years old... I'm not even 18 years old. I know who Madonna is, I know her music, and I know her style. I grew up listening to Madonna on the radio, but Madonna has not made any impact on me like Gaga has.

I don't listen to pop music all that much. The only song I really like(d) of Lady Gaga is Bad Romance, but I really admire her as an artist and the message she's trying to get across. If she drops out of the music scene next year... she will still remain impactful and she has already made a difference in her fans. Isn't that what a legend is?

What I really don't understand is all this hate and intolerance between popstar fans exchanging heat on forums and youtube comments. Well it's mostly non-Gaga fans insulting Gaga. If you don't think Lady Gaga is a legend... okay... what's the point of arguing with Gaga fans? You know what I mean? Are you trying to convince Gaga fans that she's really not that great? Lol.

Also, Beethoven was a "by-product" (as you would say) of Mozart.
 
I wouldn't yet use the term 'Legend' just yet to describe Gaga but she has made a huge impact in a relatively short amount of time. It's not just with her music but as well with fashion and she continues to use her voice to fight against the prejudices of the world especially fighting for gay rights.

I always laugh when one is so desperate to try and discredit Gaga by bringing up Madonna. It's like please do your research- Madonna has never been an original nor will she ever be. I can say that both have taken from the past but in many instances while Gaga makes things her own, Madonna does things that are carbon copy.

Madonna's longevity and business savvy mind are her most admirable attributes. I have never found her empowering on any other level in fact I would sum up that due to her lack of talent, I found many of her ploys from the Sex book to hanging on a cross- desperate and pathetic.

Now don't get me wrong, I am a fan of Madonna to a degree but there is a vast difference between her and Lady Gaga. I get that it's easy for her detractors to bring up Madge because it's safe to do so but to throw out that she is original is absurd- than again so is claiming that Gaga started out on MTV's 'Boiling Points'.
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^Hahaha that site is total bogus! But it's an interesting idea.

One thing that gives it away is the video is directed by Nick Knight not Jonas Åkerlund.
 
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