Model Behavior (PLEASE READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING)

[ThatDudeOverTher]

You can't be a philanthropist and then treat your employees or policemen like they're nothing. She has serious ethics issues
But good for her for caring and working for many different charities.

Sure, if it was a current situation, but when was the last time Naomi actually got in trouble with law enforcement? It was one time btw and she has maintained in several interviews how grateful she is to the police for their help in many situations when her safety and security were at risk. When was the last time Naomi got in trouble with any of her staff? You make it seem like there should be no redemption for anyone who has done anything wrong in their past. Do your parents still hold you accountable for things you did as a kid? Should society still judge you for whatever you did 10 years ago, provided you paid some sort of price for it at the time? I don't get your point.

The British have always treated Naomi as less than. She could never get away with the sh*t Moss got away with. Trying to hold her hostage by using her past against her is absurd.

 

[happycanadian]

The Daily Mail is and always has been ridiculously racist in its coverage. Look at how they relentlessly batter Meghan Markle for even the tiniest things they can find .... and yet how thorough has their coverage been of Prince Andrew and his connections with Epstein, etc? The stories they write are framed in an entirely different perspective. The way this particular article is written is ludicrous. "As the model is unexpectedly honoured for her philanthropy" and "even her most enthusiastic supporters might be surprised" This is absurd. Anyone with even a rudimentary knowledge of Naomi and her career will know about her humanitarian and philanthropic efforts. She's been consistently contributing to causes and efforts for the majority of her career.

Naomi Campbell has been one of the most famous people in the world for 30 years. She has been photographed with literally thousands of other people at the highest level of their respective fields, whether that be music, film, fashion or people involved in philanthropy, business, political leaders, royalty, etc etc. SO HAS EVERYBODY ELSE who exists in that rarefied realm of the 0.1% of the 1%.

I'm not arguing that she's an exemplary representative of ethics and high moral standard. I'm just saying this particular story is entirely stupid.

 

[Lax89]

Sure, if it was a current situation, but when was the last time Naomi actually got in trouble with law enforcement? It was one time btw and she has maintained in several interviews how grateful she is to the police for their help in many situations when her safety and security were at risk. When was the last time Naomi got in trouble with any of her staff? You make it seem like there should be no redemption for anyone who has done anything wrong in their past. Do your parents still hold you accountable for things you did as a kid? Should society still judge you for whatever you did 10 years ago, provided you paid some sort of price for it at the time? I don't get your point.

The British have always treated Naomi as less than. She could never get away with the **** Moss got away with. Trying to hold her hostage by using her past against her is absurd.

There are certainly cases where the answer has to be yes. But I guess when it comes to Naomi, the answer is no.
What did Kate Moss do ? I'm genuinely curious because every one seems to compare her antics with Naomi's.
I don't keep up with gossips from these two models

 

[Karl Boucher]

Gisele is being dragged over a comment about the Amazonia situation. She basically wrote (and deleted) that the discussion should not be about politics and parties. However, it's a well known fact that she is a Bolsonaro's supporter and had a private meeting at her home with one of his ministers.

 

[ThatDudeOverTher]

There are certainly cases where the answer has to be yes. But I guess when it comes to Naomi, the answer is no.
What did Kate Moss do ? I'm genuinely curious because every one seems to compare her antics with Naomi's.
I don't keep up with gossips from these two models

Oh I see, you don't keep up with info about "these two models" but you're perfectly comfortable screaming from the top of the mountain about all the things they do wrong, no matter how long ago, and how they should be eternally condemned, right?

No one is arguing that Naomi has had more than her fair share of issues in the past, but dismissing her philanthropic efforts, which she's been doing from the early nineties is beyond ridiculous. Intentionally trying to associate her with people with checkered pasts is a problem and from that moronic article, one can tell that it's targeted.

 

[[Piece Of Me]]

Gisele is being dragged over a comment about the Amazonia situation. She basically wrote (and deleted) that the discussion should not be about politics and parties. However, it's a well known fact that she is a Bolsonaro's supporter and had a private meeting at her home with one of his ministers.

Isn't Gisele always talking about how much she loves the nature? She is so two-faced, it is almost unreal. And for her supporting Bolsonaro- GROSS. Nice gesture towards all the lgbt people in the fashion industry who helped her becoming one of the biggest and richest models in the world.

 

[modela]

Her husband is a trump supporter so no suprise .

 

[Lola701]

Gisele’s whole persona is annoying anyway...
And the fact that her persona is also part of her brand even makes her work annoying.

I can’t with the fake « Mother earth » thing... Even Stella Mc Cartney doesn’t go that far...

 

[Armani]

Adut on Instagram:

 

[Benn98]

While I sympathise with Adut, I don't really get this post. As in, what's the intent? Because the way I see it all that will take place is the public shaming of Who magazine (surprised not to see a bunch of venting comments over this matter underneath their tabloid fodder about tawdry soap opera stars and 'baby bump' speculation on Instagram.) Adult needn't worry because this is not a fashion demographic. Now if it was Vogue, Elle or a supplement, different story.
In their defense, the crummy rag apologised likely after she pointed out their mistake. What more can now be done, and how will this 'conversation' take place?

 

[cestmagique]

^^I'd be pissed too.

 

[billiejbob]

Gisele is being dragged over a comment about the Amazonia situation. She basically wrote (and deleted) that the discussion should not be about politics and parties. However, it's a well known fact that she is a Bolsonaro's supporter and had a private meeting at her home with one of his ministers.

I tried finding anything that suggests she's a Bolsonaro supporter and there's nothing. In fact all research suggests the opposite. Can you provide the link that says she supports him and hosted one of his minister?

 

[Deleted member 143689]

Her husband is a trump supporter so no suprise .

She never struck me as very independently smart. I feel like she is very easily guided and not so smart. The whole thing w Tom and Trump and how she tried to play I’m a Hillary supporter etc felt like a publicist move not her own. There is something very stepford and uncomfortable about those two. Almost robotic.

 

[Karl Boucher]

I tried finding anything that suggests she's a Bolsonaro supporter and there's nothing. In fact all research suggests the opposite. Can you provide the link that says she supports him and hosted one of his minister?

Gisele Bündchen recebeu Sergio Moro em sua mansão | Terraço Paulistano

 

[dsamg]

She never struck me as very independently smart.

I mean yeah, the whole wearing a burqa to get plastic surgery while claiming sunscreen is poison and pretending to be some earth-loving hippie didn't really scream intelligent.

 

[billiejbob]

Gisele Bündchen recebeu Sergio Moro em sua mansão | Terraço Paulistano

I did a google translate of that and it translated to this:

Gisele Bündchen's public commitments include coming to Sao Paulo every two months to photograph advertising campaigns. It does, however, have a secret and politicized agenda out of the eyes of fans. Upon learning of Sergio Moro's Harvard lecture in April, the model invited him to have afternoon tea at his mansion in Boston, near the university.

The judge accepted. The meeting lasted an hour and was attended by Gisele, her husband Tom Brady. The model congratulated him on Operation Car Wash, then the subject turned to football (Moro often sees games from Patriots, Brady's team). Last year, the couple received at the address businessman Jorge Paulo Lemann, currently ranked first in the ranking of Brazilian billionaires.

Doesn't at any point really suggest she is a Bolsonaro supporter at all. Even her apparently congratulating him on Operation Car Wash isn't enough evidence to suggest she is a Bolsonaro supporter.

Is there anything that actually indicates she supports Bolsonaro? Not just some vague meeting with a judge?

 

[Karl Boucher]

I did a google translate of that and it translated to this:

Gisele Bündchen's public commitments include coming to Sao Paulo every two months to photograph advertising campaigns. It does, however, have a secret and politicized agenda out of the eyes of fans. Upon learning of Sergio Moro's Harvard lecture in April, the model invited him to have afternoon tea at his mansion in Boston, near the university.

The judge accepted. The meeting lasted an hour and was attended by Gisele, her husband Tom Brady. The model congratulated him on Operation Car Wash, then the subject turned to football (Moro often sees games from Patriots, Brady's team). Last year, the couple received at the address businessman Jorge Paulo Lemann, currently ranked first in the ranking of Brazilian billionaires.

Doesn't at any point really suggest she is a Bolsonaro supporter at all. Even her apparently congratulating him on Operation Car Wash isn't enough evidence to suggest she is a Bolsonaro supporter.

Is there anything that actually indicates she supports Bolsonaro? Not just some vague meeting with a judge?

I understand what you're saying. However, we have only two sides here in Brazil. Gisele had a meeting with the man who arrested the former president (enemy of Bolsonaro). The same man is known for his antiethics and became the main minister of a homophobic. Of course her team is smart enough not to link directly her persona to Bolsonaro. She even wrote an open letter to the government a few months ago. Saying things like ''Brazil is my Party!'' (one of Bolsonaro's famous quotes) and ''Stop corruption!'' on instagram is clear enough for us, brazilians.

Do I think Gisele is homophobic and anti-liberal? No. I still like her work and personality. Heard nice things from people who meet her on airplanes. At any rate, she's a bit alienated and goes far to keep her ''nice girl'' persona.

 

[MulletProof]

She was called a 'Bad Brazilian' last time I checked. Also is veja sao paulo a respectable source? "uma agenda secreta e politizada" reads very yellow press to me. Can another Brazilian weigh in on this? really need to get to the bottom of this @Marc10 ?

If she's a hypocrite, then it must be exhausting to have been working nonstop since at least 2004 talking about the freakin' Amazons and creating awareness. How did I even know they had a deforestation problem years ago, before instagram even existed? Gisele. And yes, it's sad I knew about it thanks to a model but as one of the (if not the) most well-known Brazilians, she used her publicity to bring attention to what people outside didn't even know was a problem... for all I knew the Amazons were just a bunch of inaccessible, happy green landscapes.

As for couples with different ideologies, kind of tricky (and in my experience, hell) but totally possible.. there's actually a famous attorney in California.. who's an activist too and has hosted refugee families in her house and has won many cases against the government (immigration stuff).. her husband is a hardcore Trump supporter. I would sleep with one eye open but somehow, they see past that and make it work. What happens too is that perfectly normal human beings have different experiences/values/you name it get caught up in specific times where all of that is put to the test, which they will probably outlive. In the case of South America, these political shifts are so extreme that it would be suicidal to fully antagonize because next thing you know, you or your relatives are receiving threats, most people just keep a low profile.. others try the not-so-successful approach of being in amicable terms with the ruling party in order to get their way, or open up dialogue or whatever.

The idea that she's not intelligent says more about the knowledge of what's now fashion 101 of others tbh.. somehow with only, what, some 10 years of basic education, she became a phenomenon, and then the biggest model of easily 3 generations. Anyone who witnessed her busiest years knew the strategy behind the selectiveness was brand new to that world and a combination of playing with the market (her agency's job) and personality and ambition (all hers).. most agencies are still trying to replicate that with microscopic success.

 

[dsamg]

KAK wades into the Adut Akech-Who magazine ‘racist’ row
What do you all think? On one hand, it was shocking, but on the other, I disagree that 'this doesn't happen to white models.' I could point out so many times where photos of Sasha were used instead of Gemma etc..

 

[Littleathquakes]

yup, or even in Hollywood (Bryce Howard vs Jessica Chastain). Adut herself looks like Lupita.