Smells Like Grunge Again

Well, when you really think about it, ALL popular music is a regurgitation of the past. The artistry lies in the difference between copying it wholesale or taking elements and crafting it into something new.

Hmmm, a little like fashion, no? ^_^

And I'm in Seattle and sadly, grunge never left here. The thing that people don't really understand is that it's not a fashion statement, it's just how a segment of population here dresses. Grown men wear plaid shirts with shorts, long johns and boots and they are not trying to be cool, they are just going to work. The bands that dressed this way just grew up dressing this way. Not that that excuses it! :lol:
 
Wishing death on someone kind of makes you a prick doesn't it? Kurt was talented. I don't care where he got his inspiration from, or what was written about him in magazines. I listen to enough music to appreciate that he had talent :shock:
 
Diorling said:
Alright...


Anyways, Grunge is sooo...ugh, even the word Grunge makes me think of a dirty dumpster behind a Pico de Pollo restaurant. I hope Grunge ain't coming back...

Lolita you mentioned conformity, isn't it sort of a contradiction that something non comformist became a huge trend? I love those who like to me nonconformist (and are proud) when in essence they're truly conforming to just another point of view...

just a little harsh!

I love Kurt!
 
I think Kurt openly admitted to the Pixies being better than anything he has ever did. At least he knew his place. He probably killed himself because he saw what Courtney Love was going to look like in 10 years time.
 
grunge is my favorite type of music.i grew up with it and i loved the fashion sense..thats when i really developed and payed attention to a style of dress so ill always love it...

i think thats why i will always in some way like marc jacobs...cause he is rooted in the grunge style
 
unfortunately...it is officially back and every single magazine is doing grunge stories for fall...

thanks - once again - to mr marc jacobs...:ermm:...

:ninja:
 
It's not officially back, in my opinion, until I see a real life person stroll by wearing something that makes a little voice in my head squeal, "That's grunge!"

Seriously, I'll know it when I see it. A couple editorials are worthless if people aren't actually wearing the stuff.
 
nope, Kurt Cobain, was way way way better than Pixies, although they were good too. He was a genius, and he was a beautiful person, looking as well as personality. He was magical, and a true grunge icon!
 
what would everyone defines the term "grunge", style-wise?

I think lots of different people have different comcepts of the term. I just want to be clear.
 
Michael Pitt portrayed grunge pretty well in Last Days, but that style made him lose all his appeal.


He isn't no being grunge anymore, I don't know in he really ever felt it. To me he looks like he's trying to hard, to Kurt Cobain and quite mainstream grunge. Those two words don't fit in the same equation.
 
I bought that exact patchwork Marc by Marc Jacobs jacket and wore it ONCE and felt really dumb. It's been sitting in my closet since. It's half-f*cked - all that patchwork and faded stretch denim is supposed to make it "old" 70s but the chunky shiny silver MJ zippers are so nouveau-riche. Grunge is best if DIY like the original bands and movements, layering granny's dresses over t-shirts and ripped tights, etc., I think. A designer grunge look is just so wrong. However, I do see shades of grunge in the babydoll dresses, especially those that look like nighties, and the big loose shapes, although they are more structured this time. It's sneaking back, and I'm quite curious how it will turn out. Btw, anyone fancies a cheap Marc jacket?
 
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i went to my local luxury dept. store to discover all the manneuins dressed like homeless people!
one was wearing a pair of wide leg suspended jeans (marc by marc jacobs)..it looked very good.

i loved the little touched like ripped shoes and black smears on the mannequins' faces.
 
the_libertine said:
nope, Kurt Cobain, was way way way better than Pixies, although they were good too. He was a genius, and he was a beautiful person, looking as well as personality. He was magical, and a true grunge icon!

Wrong. I know it's opinion but still...wrong!

I am only jesting. Wrong though :lol:

Kurt never wrote anything nearly as good as Where Is My Mind? The sheer beauty of the Pixies music overpowers anything Kurt ever did in the space of three albums. I think even he knew that. He's only icon because he's dead. Beautiful person? Yeah, sure he was a pretty boy I don't see what effect that has on his music. Kurt is an icon, the Pixies are musicians.
 
^Sad thing is Kurt never even wanted to be an icon........

Anyways, back to fashion, hmmm....I think on a lot of people, this is going to end up looking very contrived and well quite victim-ish, despite the look being all about low maintenance if you know what I mean.
 
I think it's ridiculous that high-fashion has to take inspiration from what a bunch of poor kids throw together out of necessity, if not an outright anti-fashion stance. Grunge as high-fashion was silly when Jacobs did it in 92/93, and it's doubly-pathetic twice-removed in 2006.

Nonetheless, compared with seeing the generation that's younger than me suffering in awful unironic girly skirts, carefully overapplied makeup, with everything terribly overaccesorized--and always teetering painfully in high-heels, perhaps this is a welome relief.
 
Oh, bumf***.

Grunge is indeed back, I saw some people in SoHo being very grunge. A moomoo in public paired with Louboutin wedges...God...The irony isn't even entertaining now...
 
anyone else think think the new grunge is linked to "the scene"? I went to some crazy scenester clubs in LA recently and all I could think was how the scene kids all had that crazed, bored, faded look to them that made me think of early 90s grunge all over again... grunge was a movement in attitude, that showed in the dress. but to resurrect grunge as a fashion statement directly contradicts it's original intention. I think thats why I cant seem to get into the mindset of enjoying the new "grunge"...

without authenticity, the style seems just plain one dimensional and contrived. its like buying new distressed jeans.
 
I love fashion and I love grunge, but I hate, hate, hate it when they come together and becomes a mass thing. :angry: :angry: :angry:
 
Im too young to have experienced the first wave of grunge and when i showed an interest in it mummy was always like ... no no no your a little girl blah blah blah and shuved me in something horridly girly and pink.. so it will be nice to see what the new grunge look will bring .. i mgiht even try a few pieces if i like them
If it gets as big as boho was in 2004 ill cry :cry:
 
oceanharlot said:
anyone else think think the new grunge is linked to "the scene"? I went to some crazy scenester clubs in LA recently and all I could think was how the scene kids all had that crazed, bored, faded look to them that made me think of early 90s grunge all over again... grunge was a movement in attitude, that showed in the dress. but to resurrect grunge as a fashion statement directly contradicts it's original intention. I think thats why I cant seem to get into the mindset of enjoying the new "grunge"...

without authenticity, the style seems just plain one dimensional and contrived. its like buying new distressed jeans.
thank you. you're so right. grunge was a movement. i was a sullen teenager and the movement spoke to me. this "new grunge" just isn't authentic. we're a pop culture fueled by jessica simpson, jessica alba and jennifer anniston. our culture is not grunge. this is just a continuation of the fashion cycle of the past 10 yrs.. which is basically just to cycle through every decade season by season.
 

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