Yohji Yamamoto

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the cap is from + noir, just another mystery of YY merchandise.
black only, one size. another rare item over here.



they updated the site with the rest of the images for the first discord collection,
since the stuff came out yesterday as sort of pre-fall at isetan.
it turned out that it was not a capsule.
shoes 4 styles
bags 17
scarves 17
purses 14


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seriously-
the squiggle logo for discord is the thing i like best and i with he had done something with that on it...
generally- i think the whole thing works best when the images are blown up and slightly abstracted...
in any case- thanks very much for posting all of these runner!


the smoke print remains my fave...
(though i find square scarves a bit difficult to wear...)
this is the first time i see the waterfall print, which i also find very beautiful...
rushing water photographed in black and white and wrapped around one's shoulders seems truly magnificent somehow, imo...
of all the flower prints, the one i think is most successful is the top right in post #369-
the way the flowers are cropped creates the illusion that the flower petals are feathers and that the flowers could be wings...
i think that is a very successful design and very poetic indeed...

at first i wasn't so sure about these things...
the scarves are definitely growing on me, though...
i must say, as someone who wears a lot of black, one does look for a little 'brightness' by the face...
jewelry can often be too 'loud' and colours can often be too 'bright'...

i have a black silk and silver lame scarf that i turn regularly for this reason...
i have lately felt the need for something like that which is a bit softer or quieter, while still being elegant and sexy...
if i imagine these scarves worn, for example, with some of the +noir collection, it seems they would be a very elegant and chic accessory...

not really loving the sneakers...*big surprise*...
and that bag i really like from the pop up is still my fave piece of design, though it doesn't have any print on it so i am not really sure how it fits in with the rest of these items...
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FYI-from my experience, yohji bags are deceptively simple...
they are designed and engineered the way his clothes are and are a pleasure to use because the pockets and the straps are all in the exact perfect place and this makes them extremely comfortable and practical while still being elegant and tasteful in a quiet way...

i don't even know what to say about yohji as the dog print...
he sure does love that dog!!!
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the crazy thing is that they really do look alike...

 

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i do wish there was a small clutch with the smoke print-
something similar to the wallet, but maybe with a strap...
like the roll clutch in post #368

frankly- i think it would be great to have something smoky in my hand for those times when i am in a place where i can't smoke, but would like to be holding a cigarette...

 

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the cap is from + noir, just another mystery of YY merchandise.
black only, one size. another rare item over here.

thanks for this info...
this is one of the big reasons i miss having the yohji store here...
having everything in one place is really the best...
there is no substitute...
especially when it comes to accessories...

in a funny way- it makes me appreciate all my YY things even more than before...

 

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you are welcome softgrey
how about using the square scarves as a formal silk furoshiki ? it would be easier. btw, while most of the scarves are silk, there are a few styles that are fringed, which are wool.
yes that cropped flowers are really great. they could also look a bit like crystal.

focusing on japanese aesthetics and its traditional crafts/techniques is part of the theme for this project.
yuzen handpainting, wabi, sabi, sense of mujou, praise of nature - mortality/imperfection, the importance of the ground (as opposed to the figure), or of the blank, void space that there is between things, etc
and then, how your fave bag fits in with the rest of the collection lies in geta ( though geta doesn't seem to be related to the said aesthetics especially lol, it's traditional anyway). it's a geta clutch shoulder bag. there is also a geta tote. maybe the idea of geta combined with the printing of the fleeting didn't feel so right, since japanese aesthetic generally tends to be about subtraction rather than addition.
but if there are enough customers requests, there could appear the printed version, because this is not one of those projects from YY inc alone. isetan and mitsukoshi are largely involved here. so the sales department of this project should be much more acute than usual.
there might be a smoke printed smaller clutch shoulder later as well.
I think a water lily printed (little lilies in a row on the belt) version is already available, although the one in the pic is a wallet. that slash belt design with and without water lily should come in wallet and clutch shoulder.
only the slash belt tote in the first pic in #366 comes with the smoke print on the reversible soft leather at the moment.

according to someone, smoking during a power failure where there was basically no sight was much less of a pleasure.
seems like you get some of it visually. if so, the print must manage to work, as you say.


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he once said "yohji yamamoto is a hard job".


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so- i finally found and checked the site...
there are only 7 scarves posted there and there are clearly more than that...
17 according to your info, runner...

and i see from these pics that the smoke scarf also comes oblong and i guess that version is chiffon instead of an opaque silk...?
they will drape and hang so differently depending on this variation as well as the diferent shapes...
and becuase i got a close look at the smoke scarf- i can see what i was thinking is right...
yohji yamamoto is written in the middle in blurry smoke...
this is branding that i can approve of and reminds me of when he wrote his name outside his store in chalk, erasing and erasing until he was satisfied...
*also of my chalk print afv top...
cool idea~!

i have been thinking about how different the scarves will look once they are wrapped or tied and worn...
some of the ones that may not seem so amazing at first, could turn out to be the best ones to wear...
i'm thinking about something like this one
http://forums.thefashionspot.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=678355&d=1399999312
once it is wrapped around the neck it will have one end white and one end black, which could be quite cool, imo...
depending on the rest of the look of course...

as i said, i am more and more attracted to the scarf idea...
more and more...

thanks for the further info about the concept...
i am understanding and appreciating more and more about these japanese design concepts and aesthetics...
i can see how the bag gets some inspiration from the shape of geta...
*frankly, i like it without any print and i think what you say is probably all true about why they did it that way...
i would not want it any other way either...

yeah- smoke is beautiful and definitely adds to a mood or an aura...
it works especially well as an accessory, imo...
it's like some ethereal scarf or jewelry wafting through the air...
almost like a halo...
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even the way one holds a cigarette can be extremely elegant...
that smoking scarf looks soooo lovely when yohji shakes it out...
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i have never imagined using a furoshiki, runner...
but i suppose it's not out of the question if it were an evening at the theater or something quiet and civilised like that...
it's an interesting idea, to be sure...
could be quite charming...
i like the idea...


i love seeing yohji at work...
it may not be easy, but i really appreciate all of his efforts~!


and yours, runner!
thanks for sharing all of this...


the wool scarf is nice too...
i wonder if the pattern on that is woven or painted on or what...

 

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maybe those official photos on YY site are equivalent to lookbook images, and I guess what we are seeing there is the whole set they decided to release, unfortunatelly, as a lookbook doesn't show us every piece of the collection generally.
yes some of the prints are available in oblong too. there are even a few oblongs, for example, 181×90cm, 230×80, 250×80, etc. as we know, YY merchandise always a bit more complicated than expected.
and yes many of the scarves are like ambivalent veils that reveal what they veil. so they may, for a moment, create an ambiguous phenomenon similar to what is happening around moreau's salome where the patterns on the veil are also decorations on the skin and the canvas at the same time.
here the smoke (the waterfall in the image) is a veil, a tattoo, and a misty accessory as you say.

the wool ones are not delivered yet, but they say the pattern is printed there.

in the interview wim wenders was saying that in reality yohji had done the erasing over 30 times.


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here the smoke (the waterfall in the image) is a veil, a tattoo, and a misty accessory as you say.

hmm, yes--very much so...
i like the veil imagery in particular...
a veil of smoke...how nice...!!!
i also see something very jean paul gaultier about that salome image---
like those tattoo body stockings he once did...


thanks for posting those last two chiffon scarves, runner...
i do think that the chiffon pieces will look best worn as a wrap or a stole, rather than draped or tied around the neck as a sort of scarf...
the chiffon doesn't have enough 'body' for that...
so the large oblong shape is preferable in this fabric...
i actually like the way the waterfall scarf is shown on the model...
i'd probably wear a sheer scarf in much the same way over a black dress...

though i have other issues with that image...
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in the interview wim wenders was saying that in reality yohji had done the erasing over 30 times.

it's so crazy that you have to respect/love it...
go yohji, go~!

 

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all this talk about scarves has got me thinking...

i would like a big dark blue scarf...
i actually got one from the fw 2013 men's collection which became a gift for my hosts in tokyo...
it was of black and blue interwoven threads...with a fringed edge...
from far away it just looks blue- but up close you can see the black...
a very lightweight wool or mohair...
very airy and soft...
it just draped beautifully...

i gave it to my hosts because i thought it could be good for both of them to wear and share...
i think it's sweet when couples share clothes...


anyway- now i keep thinking about it...
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with all my black- it would be sooooo nice to have a big blue scarf...
*i have one from barney's private label (runner, you know the one)...
and i wear that plenty...
it also came from the men's dept...
but i would like a bigger one in a brighter blue...
i am hoping that fall 2014 will bring some similar....

i think yohji should do a bunch of indigo scarves, actually...
it's very traditional japanese and would be freaking gorgeous with all of his stuff...
in fact- i'd like to see more blue from him, overall...

 

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ahh yes somehow feeling like letting his salome wear doc martens.
also his figures sometimes remind me of buddhist statues such as this one from thirteenth century japan.

when you say brighter blue, that color they use on the YY shopping bags could be a bit too bright?
though not blue, found a wool one from F/W 2013 and a linen cotton one from this spring, both from homme, just for reference.


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that statue is beautiful...

also his figures sometimes remind me of buddhist statues such as this one from thirteenth century japan.

sorry - i lost track here...
when you say his- do you mean yohji, gaultier or moreau...?
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what i mean about the blue is really not very light...
just bright...
if that makes sense...?
it's that dark deep inky indigo that feels like the night sky on a very brightly lit night when the moon is full...
it's like the dark blue of the yohji coat that i was so crazy for...
somewhere around that tone of navy blue...

also- when i say fringe- i mean like the fringe on that barney's scarf...
i think i have something very specific in mind...
like a big oblong wrap -
i like that shape because i find there are many many ways to wear it...
and they all look cool and chic...
and i like that crepe-y lightweight wool...
it's airy and warm at the same time...

i'm liking black with blue more and more...