Christian Dior HC F/W 04.05 Paris

[Lena]

Originally posted by mikeijames@Jul 10 2004, 01:41 PM
ok i am a little confused on how quoting works with the new format of tFs (although i am still loving the makeover)... .  we aren't operating like five six years ago where you could just buy off the runway and wear it on the street.  it takes a more discerning eye.

i'm fully aware that runway looks should not be taken literaly,
but this is not Pret-a-Porter.. right?
how on earth could you 'alter' Dior's couture look?
pair it with what? its too little space for improvement or alteration here.

my point is not so much unwearability,
CDG can be unwearable for some but still original & beautiful,
my problem is with Galliano's repeated fashion direction.

in case it is needed, i always respect diverse opinions,
my views are (certainly) no universal truths

ps: to use the new quote feature, just click on quote and then click on reply,

love the new FS format

 

[Foxie-Pooh]

I was away for a week look what what I had missed. I this collection. I love they way Galliano constructs his asymmetrical, over-the-top, tight, corseted, rufflly dresses. I don't believe I have seen anyone doing this better than JG. For those of you hating the resemblance to VW, GET OVER IT! Designers draw inspirations from similar things all the time. I think this collection is very Galliano in terms of style. He has done similar dresses and platforms in other themes, how come all of the sudden he becomes a copycat? Many of their creations are similar because they drew from the same theme. Come on, powerded faces, extravagant dresses, tiaras...how much more 18th century royalty can they get? The theme may not be entirely original, but the presentation and re-interpretation is def. his own. If I were a woman and rich, I'll order all of the gowns off runway! Since i'm not, I'll just force my future wife to get that amazing wedding dress at the end of the show for our wedding. Oh and also get that rose arch thing
Only thing I didn't like about the collection is the lack of variety. I wish he had daywear ( some separates, bags, and casual wear) with this theme

 

[oceanharlot]

man... I mean I agree that aspects of the collection are unwearable. But its haute couture, not ready to wear. Its supposed to be an artistic statement if anything.

I would wear quite a few of the gowns myself... if I had any place appropriate to wear them, and the bucks to buy one.

 

[afrowitch]

Some of the dresses were kinda strange and reminded me of this:

However, there were a few I adored and wouldn't mind owning. And, yes, while haute couture is more of an artistic endeavor, I don't think it is not supposed to be a freak show.

 

[nuiko]

^ everything said above is true, however one MUST remember that when ordering a haute couture garment from dior it usually is not a 100% off-the-runway look.

what happens is you place your order and tell them which look(s), fabric(s) and/or detail(s) you most liked, what your needs/wants are, and then john galliano works from there. he comes up with an idea based on the information and input that you provide and once you're completely satisfied, work gets done on construction and you have to attend the several fittings et al.

honestly, i can totally see some of the gowns shown on the runway being modified (for some, only slightly) and turned into absolutely wearable creations. i would be more than proud to own one...

 

[TheSweetest]

Something is always going wrong at this man's shows. Below is the article from fashion.net.

Dior's Cruel Costume Drama

It's a good thing that John Galliano pays his models well. Last
week's Christian Dior couture show in Paris worked those girls
extra hard. According to the NY Post, Galliano went overboard with
his signature everything-but-the-kitchen-sink creations.
Supposedly, Alek Wek vomited before the show because her corset
was too tight, and Karolina Kurkova fell off the catwalk since she
couldn't support the weight of her dress. Apparently, Kurkova's
outfit was so heavy it took four men to get her back up and
going.

 

[LesYeux]

Oh dear. Note to Mr. Galliano: You know you've gone overboard when...

 

[ultramarine]

OMG!
And we're talking about SUCH extreme reactions from models who have already MILES of CATWALK experience!
Pooh Alek!
It breaks my heart!
Bad John! I'd bitchslap him but he may enjoy it!

 

[Alejandro]

damn... just damn...

 

[Mr-Dale]

Karolina fell? I just thought she got stuck at the end of the catwalk. And her dress didn't look that heavy at all....she walked as if she really enjoyed it, she was the fastest during that show
I don't think that they weren't able to lift her up again because of the weight, it just doesn't look heavy to me....

 

[Aida.Sevan]

I never liked his fashion...

 

[hilfiger10025]

is there a video anywhere??

 

[Aida.Sevan]

That would be interesting to see...

 

[prixi]

ooh yes

 

[Spike413]

What I find wierd is, they talk about the dresses being so heavy that models were having trouble walking, but seriously how much can one dress weigh? It's just fabric, no matter how much there is, it's still just fabric

 

[Alejandro]

I agree.. I don't think those dresses are that heavy...I consider heavy one of those 60's Rabanne's mesh dresses, which I tried on the other day, and that sh*t was heavy! haha

 

[Spike413]

I just realized something, if Alek's corset was too tight, it wasn't Galliano's fault. Obviousy whoever was dressing her laced her in too tight, which I suppose could cause vomiting, but still, don't blame Galliano for that.

 

[nuiko]

Originally posted by TheSweetest@Jul 13 2004, 12:35 AM
Something is always going wrong at this man's shows. Below is the article from fashion.net.

Dior's Cruel Costume Drama

It's a good thing that John Galliano pays his models well. Last
week's Christian Dior couture show in Paris worked those girls
extra hard. According to the NY Post, Galliano went overboard with
his signature everything-but-the-kitchen-sink creations.
Supposedly, Alek Wek vomited before the show because her corset
was too tight, and Karolina Kurkova fell off the catwalk since she
couldn't support the weight of her dress. Apparently, Kurkova's
outfit was so heavy it took four men to get her back up and
going.

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this has already been posted in the dior f/w 2004 hc thread.

 

[Alejandro]

Yeah, those models were suffering...if u guys saw the backstage video at Dior.com, they look like they weren't having fun... too bad, I would have enjoyed everry second of it....those corsets

 

[plasticine20]

Originally posted by Spike413@Jul 13 2004, 09:49 PM
What I find wierd is, they talk about the dresses being so heavy that models were having trouble walking, but seriously how much can one dress weigh? It's just fabric, no matter how much there is, it's still just fabric

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Well Fabric CAN get very heavy. It's like comparing a delicate piece of silk with some thick wool or sturdy denim. And those Dior dresses must've used yards and yards of fabric complete with embroidery and lots of layering. Even cheaper, simpler dresses with that much beading/embroidery can get very heavy. Combine that with the massive sizes of the dresses and the structure work that had to go into that, and try walking in high heels. Yes, I do believe that would be quite heavy and hard to balance!