Christian Dior HC F/W 04.05 Paris

[brian]

viv "likes" the idea of copying.....
i guess i see where she's coming from.

"imitation is flattery" comes to mind.
also, isn't the whole of history really based on copying?

i believe so actually

 

[brian]

Originally posted by softgrey@Jul 6th, 2004 - 9:50 pm
brian...you little drama queen...i don't think galliano wants to be her...!!!!

yeah that was me being a drama queen!! trying to shake things up

i didn't think anyone ever even reads my posts or cares
didn't think anyone would catch that

 

[brian]

i love this dress!!

 

[brian]

and this one

the whole collection

 

[brian]

the wedding gown!!!!!!!!

*fainting smiley*

 

[Atelier]

Originally posted by brian@Jul 6th, 2004 - 11:38 pm
and just one more small thing that i noticed is the handbags in vivienne's spring 1997 collection......
john galliano QUITE BLATANTLY ripped them off for his menswear f/w 2004 collection

Suede bags with a fringes weren't invented in 1996. 1466 maybe but I doubt VW was responsible.

 

[softgrey]

is it just me...or is the casting and make-up really questionable at times?...

it doesn't get more DRAG QUEEN than this...

 

[softgrey]

Originally posted by Atelier+Jul 6th, 2004 - 11:03 pm--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Atelier @ Jul 6th, 2004 - 11:03 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-brian@Jul 6th, 2004 - 11:38 pm
and just one more small thing that i noticed is the handbags in vivienne's spring 1997 collection......
john galliano QUITE BLATANTLY ripped them off for his menswear f/w 2004 collection

Suede bags with a fringes weren't invented in 1996. 1466 maybe but I doubt VW was responsible. [/b][/quote]
it's all the same influences...the wild west...savage or sauvage...if you want to be all elegant about it...

i think VW was the first to do the refined with the raw/savage edge...that was the 'punk' aspect to her designs...

 

[brian]

is it just me...or is the casting and make-up really questionable at times?...
it doesn't get more DRAG QUEEN than this...

or this.... seriously:

and the crowning glory:

the rings, too, and the white debutante gloves

 

[Atelier]

WWD Wednesday July 7, 2004
Wild Fantasy and Rich Reality

There are two sides to every story, including, as it turns out, the fashion tale of the fall couture. John Galliano sent up Ancien Régime excess with a theatrical Christian Dior collection that mixed Madame Pompadour and Miss Universe. Ralph Rucci, however, in his fall looks for Chado, was working a more realistic side of the street, with opulent artistic looks aimed at his loyal clientele.

Christian Dior: In an ABC News television interview preceding the July 4th holiday, Felix Grucci Jr. of New York’s first family of pyrotechnics explained his theory of a dazzling fireworks display. You open, he said, with a crescendo, all ablaze with glory, but then you take it down, allowing for the tension of anticipation. Of course, you finish big.

John Galliano, himself a master of a different kind of fireworks chez Christian Dior, begs to differ. Galliano believes that you start with a crescendo and then just keep amping up. That is how he approached the couture collection he showed for the house on Tuesday, a dazzling spectacle by any measure. But just like the celebratory night sky, every runway needs a little down time, those essential seconds that allow the psyche to process awe. Yet Galliano refuses to indulge his audience in even the most fleeting moments of calm, and it is sometimes impossible to take in the beauty of the clothes. As a result, the designer’s brilliance can get caught in a proverbial equation of diminishing returns.

Such was the case with the collection Galliano showed on Tuesday, a splendidly chic send-up of Ancien indulgence, as if Madame Pompadour had walked into her closet and out the other side into a gleeful asylum for crazed storybook illustrators, while at the same time future-channeling Marilyn Monroe, Vivienne Westwood and the Miss Universe Tiara Foundation.

Day clothes? Oh, you haute innocent. If this season marks the beginning of taps for the couture as the hiatus/exits of Versace and Ungaro might indicate, Galliano has no intention of letting the hallowed institution fade quietly into the night. No, his couture will either flourish or go guns, glitz and gems blazing into the oblivion in which its sourpuss critics have long thought it belongs. In that spirit, he sent out 28 of the grandest, most opulent and decorated fabric masterpieces imaginable. They were all sprung from a single motif, hyper-fitted through the hips and exploding into volume at some point thereafter. Each look boasted endless construction, all tucked, folded, pleated and turned, typically for stiffness rather than flou. On one, for example, sturdy folds created a huge ribbon candy effect across the hips. And Galliano piled on the embellishments to match, in lavish embroideries, beading, fur borders and some dreamy, museum-worthy hand-painting.

Wearable? As is, not a chance, with one or two exceptions. But each look held the promise of glorious distillation into divine red carpet or wedding regalia, which was surely not lost on Melania Knauss — Mrs. Donald Trump-to-be — in town for some haute trousseau shopping.

Still, for all of the collection’s opulence, here Galliano’s single-mindedness worked against him a bit. And, in the midst of his lavish, often breathtaking, fashion symphony, one couldn’t help but think that Felix Grucci had a point.

 

[h_bazaar]

Originally posted by softgrey@Jul 6th, 2004 - 11:05 pm
is it just me...or is the casting and make-up really questionable at times?...

it doesn't get more DRAG QUEEN than this...

LOL!!!! Oh please... I think this season's make-up look much better than the what he did for the Egyptian themed collection last season...

And seriously guys... give the VW and Galliano thingy a rest... It's beginning to sound like VW was the one who created Earth!!!!

 

[Plumour]

highly Westwood inspired indeed, but the pieces are incredibly stunning, in a Galliano way. loving the shapes and colors, the craftsmanship and details are amazing as always.
and I'm so in love with the whole 18th century theme/mood, Galliano punk Belle Epoque?
this is so much more wearable than the SS 04 couture imo.
I'd definitely wear these if I had the money

marvelous!

 

[Plumour]

oh in my favorite color

 

[Plumour]

beautiful

 

[Incroyable]

A lot of Galliano's makeup is inspired by traditional Chinese cosmetics. I.e. the cherry blossom lips.

He uses Pat McGrath almost exclusivly, and she creates for him this particular look. The eyebrows are always Marlene Dietrich/Joan Crawford. Although that was most evident in The ******-Granny collection.

 

[Plumour]

gorgeous

 

[Plumour]

 

[softgrey]

Originally posted by h_bazaar+Jul 6th, 2004 - 11:19 pm--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (h_bazaar @ Jul 6th, 2004 - 11:19 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-softgrey@Jul 6th, 2004 - 11:05 pm
is it just me...or is the casting and make-up really questionable at times?...

it doesn't get more DRAG QUEEN than this...

LOL!!!! Oh please... I think this season's make-up look much better than the what he did for the Egyptian themed collection last season...

And seriously guys... give the VW and Galliano thingy a rest... It's beginning to sound like VW was the one who created Earth!!!! [/b][/quote]
um...i believe the last vivienne westwwod reference came from that WWD article...

so ...you see...i'm not so off target after all...

i believe the direct quote was ..."channeling vivienne westwood"...which is EXACTLY what i said...

i believe "UNWEARABLE" was also used ...

that is all...

brian...the shots you posted are EXACTLY the ones i was thinking of...now you're channeling me...hahaha....

 

[Plumour]

crap or talent or copycat, we always seem to have the most pages on Dior shows, Galliano must be smiling

 

[softgrey]

Originally posted by brian@Jul 6th, 2004 - 1:04 pm
i

john's inspiration (westwood fall 1995

quote incroyable...A lot of Galliano's makeup is inspired by traditional Chinese cosmetics. I.e. the cherry blossom lips.
He uses Pat McGrath almost exclusivly, and she creates for him this particular look. The eyebrows are always Marlene Dietrich/Joan Crawford. Although that was most evident in The ******-Granny collection.

IMO...i think it is blatantly obvious that this season's make up was inspired by THIS>>>!!!...
i love pat and i think she's brilliant,...but i don't think she pulled this one off...maybe it was her assistants who didn't quite get it...but some of the girls look horrendous...