Designer & Fashion Insiders Behavior (PLEASE READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING)

[Koibito]

Hypocrisy has reached another level in fashion. I can't believe Prabal did this shameful thing.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/2/15/16995962/prabal-gurung-fashion-pregnancy-me-too

 

[Littleathquakes]

I don't know if I believe that story. It just feels like it may be exaggerated just a bit. I can't put my finger on it.

 

[fashionista-ta]

Hypocrisy has reached another level in fashion. I can't believe Prabal did this shameful thing.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/2/15/16995962/prabal-gurung-fashion-pregnancy-me-too

I have no trouble believing it. Thanks for posting. Looks like he needs to achieve another level of woke ...

To make up that blaming crap about investors passing because of her appearance, oh my Lord ...

In my entire career, I've never been asked for a doctor's note ... but I provided one voluntarily when my manager called to question me because a couple people at work had said they didn't believe what happened to me. (What was she repeating it for anyway? Management 101 that you keep people's health issues confidential.) Yes, not everyone walks out their back door into a swarm of hostile Africanized bees, but it surely did happen to me I have always specialized in having non-ordinary problems

 

[dodencebt]

Prabal Gurung just sounds like the type of guy who feels like he has the right to call women "b*tches" and call them out for their weight or their sex life just because he is gay. I've met many guys who behaved that way and always try to stay away from them. Their behavior is excused by many but it's clear that their "targets" are downright hurt by such comments and it's simply annoying to people around them. And clearly this leads to a toxic workplace because it blurs the lines of what is considered appropriate behavior in the office.

 

[Benn98]

I have no trouble believing it. Thanks for posting. Looks like he needs to achieve another level of woke ...

To make up that blaming crap about investors passing because of her appearance, oh my Lord ...

In my entire career, I've never been asked for a doctor's note ... but I provided one voluntarily when my manager called to question me because a couple people at work had said they didn't believe what happened to me. (What was she repeating it for anyway? Management 101 that you keep people's health issues confidential.) Yes, not everyone walks out their back door into a swarm of hostile Africanized bees, but it surely did happen to me I have always specialized in having non-ordinary problems

LMAO!!!!! Doctor's notes are to be handled with the utmost discretion. It's not even the place of your colleagues to debate whether you were being truant or actually sick. I've never heard bee attacks though, lol.

But back to the Asian Zac Posen, I don't follow him so I didn't even knew he was considered 'woke.' To sack someone after such a long stretch of unpaid leave must be the most wicked thing I've ever read. And she's a woman who very recently gave birth!

 

[tigerrouge]

I've worked in places that required employees to submit a doctor's note for any absence longer than three days, so I don't think it's that weird for a company to request such paperwork. Yes, these sorts of companies are usually controlled by a$$holes (controlling everything that happens under them), but it was still within the law.

Although if an a$$hole is in charge, you bet they're going to be an a$$hole about everything. The same company that demanded sick notes after the third day went after a poorly-paid admin person for 'not working their notice', because they walked out of the workplace after they decided they didn't want to spend one more day working there.

I seem to remember working really hard and then going in to negotiate a raise, and them telling me that if I was "in need of money" that I should "stop spending on shoes and bags" despite obviously being NOT a shoes-and-bags sort of person.

So, yes, I can certainly believe that person's story. ALL of it.

 

[sore]

I'm a woman in my early thirties working in the humanities/ in academia. You have no idea (or sadly, most of you probably do have an idea) how often higher ranked men commented on the possibility of me becoming pregnant, combined with some nice little derogatory remarks. I have no such plans for the foreseeable future, but I'm already freaked out about the treatment of pregnant women in work environments.

To name but a few from the top of my head:
- When it was clear that I was going to be out of funding for a while, one professor asked me why I didn't want to "quickly get pregnant" so I could prolong my funding. When I said I didn't think this was the right motivation to reproduce, he wanted to know if I could "at least" live off of my boyfriend's (non-existent) money.
- I was talking to another professor about my research area and he recommended another woman who he said used to be the absolute best in the field. "But unfortunately she decided to become a mother, and she's lost most of her brain with her placenta."
- A third researcher (no tenure track) told me he was never going to get in a good position as they were all held by "pregnant women and mothers". He then proceeded to lay out his theory of a matriarchy that in his opinion had existed for several thousand years (BC), so all women should shut up and deal with the 'comparably quite young' patriarchy of our age. I kid you not when I say that this guy specializes in gender studies.

I believe every word about the Prabal story. And even typing this makes me want to drop a bomb on all of these ivory towers, and another one on the White House while I'm at it. Or alternatively just hide in my apartment with my 10 kids and 30 cats, maybe?

I can only hope this woman will be getting a lot of attention for that article.

 

[Deleted member 130879]

What even is a "woke" fashion brand? Selling "feminist" t-shirts? Wearing "feminist" t-shirts? That's marketing, not being woke. Feminism is all over instagram and brands/designers know that.

Tell me about their female employers working conditions, tell me how they choose their models, their ethics towards product manufacturing and then I'll call them "woke".

 

[Lifeispeachy]

Gucci Is Being Accused Of Appropriating Sikh Turbans
https://www.buzzfeed.com/krishrach/...g-sikh-turbans?utm_term=.xgLxN7VyM#.fcOa1ZVx9

 

[Littleathquakes]

I don't care for the political arguments. That show was just garish. Trash it all they want.

 

[helmutnotdead]

Gucci Is Being Accused Of Appropriating Sikh Turbans
https://www.buzzfeed.com/krishrach/...g-sikh-turbans?utm_term=.xgLxN7VyM#.fcOa1ZVx9

I don't wanna sound scandalous but COME ON, PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS COMPLAINING ABOUT SOMETHING. I really agree in the casting aspect but dear lord fashion is always using inspiration (clothes, references, fabrics) from another context.

 

[TREVOFASHIONISTO]

i do think people have the right to be upset, especially when people who wear them on a daily basis are being attacked. I do think t was insensitive for Gucci to have such garments on their runway

 

[dodencebt]

This Gucci thing is nothing new. There was uproar over every other Galliano show for Dior in his heyday; they know it'll blow over and then sell.

 

[fashionista-ta]

i do think people have the right to be upset, especially when people who wear them on a daily basis are being attacked. I do think t was insensitive for Gucci to have such garments on their runway

Not just attacked, murdered.

What I find disturbingly ironic is how often the perpetrators of hate crimes can't even manage to target actual members of the group they hate. Ignorance is not bliss.

 

[squilliam]

Not just attacked, murdered.

What I find disturbingly ironic is how often the perpetrators of hate crimes can't even manage to target actual members of the group they hate. Ignorance is not bliss.

Well perpetrators of hate crimes aren't really known for their intelligence

 

[Benn98]

As Sarah Knight would say...'you do you!'

Giorgio Armani Takes a Jab at Gucci

The designer believes models carrying fake heads was just too much.
By Luisa Zargani on February 25, 2018


HEAD OVER HEELS: Giorgio Armani has long lamented how some of his peers parade unwearable looks on the runway to draw the attention, turning fashion into a circus. So it’s no surprise the designer would take a jab at Alessandro Michele’s models carrying their pretend heads at Gucci.

Without naming the brand or Michele, Armani said he was “perplexed” by that choice and such antics. “No, I don’t want to be a part of this. Fashion can’t be a means to have the media talk about you. We have to move and excite but without going overboard — it’s too easy. I have never wanted to trick consumers, and what I show on the runway is what customers can find in stores,” Armani said on the sidelines of the unveiling of a short movie he produced for his Laboratorio workshop.

Source: WWD.com

 

[domenica]

There’s a new anonymous Instagram called @fashionassistants in the style of Cameron Russell but about work abuse (not sexual harrassment) by editors and stylists. Some of the stories are pretty horrendous and “Devil Wears Prada”-like. Ironically, a lot of these assistants will turn around and treat interns the same way.

 

[domenica]

 

[helmutnotdead]

There’s a new anonymous Instagram called @fashionassistants in the style of Cameron Russell but about work abuse (not sexual harrassment) by editors and stylists. Some of the stories are pretty horrendous and “Devil Wears Prada”-like. Ironically, a lot of these assistants will turn around and treat interns the same way.

I honestly love this to finally happen but WHERE IS THE POINT IF THEY ARE NOT GOING TO PUBLISH THE NAME?!

I just don't get it. Fashion abusers are still getting away with it if they're not publicly shamed.

 

[domenica]

I completely agree - sadly I think the person/people who run the Instagram have to worry about being sued. After all, if someone sends in a false account, then whoever the post was about can sue for libel and defamation. It could also ruin someone’s life if someone submits a false story about them that is published.

They could try to verify the stories before posting with names by requesting proof, but people submitting could lose their careers if they’re exposed for “snitching”. Even the perpetrator completely deserves it, no company will want to hire someone who is a liability and who could expose any illegal/unethical practices of theirs. It’s the sad truth.

I guess it will take one brave soul to stand up in order to start a movement a la Harvey Weinstein. Until then, workplace abuse will continue to run rampant. There’s this view of people who work in fashion as vapid, but as most of us know, the fashion industry is actually extremely cutthroat and difficult to work in, which is why so many people are willing to put up with 17 hour work days and demeaning behavior.