Designer & Fashion Insiders Behavior (PLEASE READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING)

[dior_couture1245]

Literally who cares. I’m done with cry baby stories.

Boohoo…some French people were mean. Aztecs killed 20k+ people a year for human sacrifice.

 

[susseinmcswanny]

Louis Pisano getting absolutely annihilated on twitter lol

 

[cestmagique]

^ya love to see it!

 

[dior_couture1245]

What on earth even is that tweet he’s replying to saying??? It’s so poorly written I can barely make out what it’s saying?

 

[Benn98]

God, Louis is so crass. That sort of behaviour is actually encouraged in fashion. They probably they're pushing the envelope, staying true to themselves. What's this about Demna getting turned away at a nightclub?

Mexican-French relationships are not at a high point after the Isabel Marant controversy (I know fashion brands don't serve as ambassadors to their country's...but that's how Mexican media and government officials have decided to cover the matter and it was a huge deal here), I don't know how this brand was so blatantly unaware of that fact!

I think brands both local and international should refrain from using indigenous people as set dressing, if only because the current administration strongly condemns such displays of cultural appropriation.

I remember that for a long time fashion used to simply shoot Western models in foreign countries, styled in indigenous garb. They got a lot of criticism for that and I was one of those who were banging on about using native talent. But this is not what we meant. Why not use professional Mexican models? Even if the old women were paid fairly and wanted to feature, it still would've left a bad aftertaste. I don't understand how some people don't realise that we no longer live in that world. They probably thought 'let' go for something slicker than the usual glossy fashion shoot aveerage, more Nat Geo vibes.

Oh yes, and of course the other problem is the French. Not all, but most sometimes have this very odd blind spot. I'm sure in their minds they're probably even mildly annoyed at the outrage, thinking thing 'what's the fuss all about? They should be lucky we chose to give them coverage!!

I feel in cases like these the cultural arm or maybe even Human Rights Commission should step in hand out some fines. Grow a backbone Mexico, just 'accusing' her and saying 'please prioritize the dignified treatment of Mexico's cultural diversity' simply isn't enough. Make an example of how sort of behavior must come with legal consequences. because the French government certainly won't do anything.

 

[MulletProof]

^ Mexico did the exact same as the French whenever someone dares to name a new soda or a condom ‘champagne’ (which is like every week).: directly get in touch and.. cease and desist. Marant did comply, apologized and I think she was doing community work in Mexico or something. She has a higher profile than this brand so who even know how it works when you’re a bit more.. insignificant haha

Anyone who thinks they’re whining for the sake of whining is clearly not up to the date with the ever so exciting world of international trade. Probably the only area where Russia and the US come together against the French, as they cry and whine that Americans are calling random s*it camembert, and the Russians pass laws about how only Russian bubbly can be called ‘Champagne’ and the French need to use ‘sparkling wine’ for their champagne should they want to sell it in Russia, all just for the kicks (because the amount of complaints from the French must make it that tempting). It’s a circus and the French can be found pressing charges in every court from Haiti to China. So I’m not sure about a blind spot.. I think they’re just taking notes and applying them on others (not the Russians and Americans of course lol).

The issue is ultimately the same: tradition.. which isn’t so bad if you think that it’s the globalization mindset (‘everything should be up for grabs and yours is mine and mine is yours and f*ck borders!) what has brought us to this sterile era of fashion, and that’s only a minor issue..

 

[susseinmcswanny]

and the Russians pass laws about how only Russian bubbly can be called ‘Champagne’ and the French need to use ‘sparkling wine’ for their champagne should they want to sell it in Russia

I just looked this up I cannot stop laughing

 

[lucy92]

I remember that for a long time fashion used to simply shoot Western models in foreign countries, styled in indigenous garb. They got a lot of criticism for that and I was one of those who were banging on about using native talent. But this is not what we meant. Why not use professional Mexican models? Even if the old women were paid fairly and wanted to feature, it still would've left a bad aftertaste. I don't understand how some people don't realise that we no longer live in that world. They probably thought 'let' go for something slicker than the usual glossy fashion shoot aveerage, more Nat Geo vibes.

Oh yes, and of course the other problem is the French. Not all, but most sometimes have this very odd blind spot. I'm sure in their minds they're probably even mildly annoyed at the outrage, thinking thing 'what's the fuss all about? They should be lucky we chose to give them coverage!!

I feel in cases like these the cultural arm or maybe even Human Rights Commission should step in hand out some fines. Grow a backbone Mexico, just 'accusing' her and saying 'please prioritize the dignified treatment of Mexico's cultural diversity' simply isn't enough. Make an example of how sort of behavior must come with legal consequences. because the French government certainly won't do anything.

The National Institute of Indigenous Peoples (INPI) communication was sternly worded IMO in the original language. The Mexican activist Cortes posted the communication as well as Sezalory's email to her inviting her to Paris and begging her not to expose the scandal. My guess is that there will be multi-government agency legal settlement. And there's a lot they can do - restrict or cancel future business visas for the production team is one possible action item. Local prosecutors may have similar laws as to our "theft by deception" laws that they can employ. The production team promised Gutierez that they would buy her hand-crafted items and then bought nothing. They can also help Gutierez get legal rights to her own image.

And Sezane is not "small" by any means. Remember they are likely producing ~4,000 units per SKU to sell to start. Multiply that by how many unique items they offer per season. Then consider they will probably do additional 2,000 units or more for the items they initially sell out of out. These are massive numbers - not H&M numbers - but average for DTC brands in that category.

It was probably unwise to send a massive production team to Mexico to shoot a catalog in the middle of a pandemic anyway. At least magazine shoots are arguably of significant artistic, journalistic or cultural value. I cannot say the same for a catalog or product image shoot for fashion items that are basic.

 

[lucy92]

from modernretail.co

Beauty brand Glossier announced to its staff today that it is laying off over 80 employees. That’s about one-third of the DTC brand’s corporate workforce.

In an email announcing the layoffs, which was obtained by Modern Retail, Glossier CEO Emily Weiss, said “We have made the incredibly tough decision to part ways with over 80 members of our Glossier team.”

Weiss went on to say that the company has made “some mistakes” over the past two years. “We prioritized certain strategic projects that distracted us from the laser-focus we needed to have on our core business: scaling our beauty brand.” She also noted that Glossier “got ahead of ourselves on hiring.”


According to the note, the technology team will be impacted the most. “[W]e are shifting our technology strategy to leverage external partners for parts of our platform that we’re currently maintaining internally,” Weiss wrote.

For one laid off Glossier employee, the layoffs signal a new strategy for the company. “I survived the first round of layoffs in 2020,” the former employee told Modern Retail.

Glossier, founded in 2014, was credited with pioneering the direct-to-consumer model by using brand ambassadors and launching innovative products. Some of the brand’s best selling products include eyebrow pomade Boy Brow; In 2018, the company said it sold a Boy Brow tube every 32 seconds. Most recently, last summer the company raised an $80 million Series E funding round, bringing its valuation to $1.8 billion.

Not all of the company’s strategic initiatives have panned out. Glossier’s colorful makeup brand, Play, launched in February 2019, was folded within the core Glossier line by early 2020.

Glossier has also been the subject of some negative press over the years, most notably in the summer of 2020 when former retail employees spoke out about racism at stores. Weiss responded by publicly apologizing to the former employees of color and outlining a plan to mitigate the issues. The pledge included reaching out to these employees for ideas on how to improve the company’s culture.


This year, expanding Glossier’s retail footprint has been a big focus for the company. In her email, Weiss named several milestone achievements by Glossier in 2021. These included opening new stores in Seattle, Los Angeles and London and launching new products such as the Glossier Ultralip lipstick, the Monochromes palette and Retinol serum.

The company had a major layoff round in August 2020, when it let go of its retail employees and closed its flagship New York City store for the foreseeable future due to the pandemic.

Update: After publication, Glossier provided Modern Retail with a statement on the layoffs:

“We parted ways earlier today with more than 80 members of our team. This was a difficult but necessary decision. We’ve always been a people-powered organization, and are grateful to all of our current and former team members for their contributions to Glossier. We believe these changes leave us well-positioned as we continue to grow the brand long into the future.”

 

[SophiaVB]

L.A. Celebrity Stylist Faces Lawsuit for Discrimination, Sexual Harassment

Cristina Ehrlich, celebrity stylist to Penelope Cruz, Margot Robbie, Tina Fey, and New York Fashion Week’s 2012 “Celebrity Stylist of the Year,” was sued Tuesday by former employee Kevin Ericson, who alleges he was subject to discrimination because of his sexual orientation.

Ericson brought the case to the Los Angeles Superior court against Ehrlich and Little White Dog Inc., her Sherman Oaks styling business. The suit alleges failure to prevent harassment and discrimination, as well as numerous violations of the California state Labor Code.

“Throughout Mr. Ericson’s employment, Ms. Ehrlich subjected him to a hostile work environment based on sexual orientation,” the suit alleges. “The comments made by Ms. Ehrlich were offensive and/or unwelcome.”

Ericson seeks at least $1 million in compensatory damages, restitution, and punitive damages.

Ericson was initially hired in 2015 and was tasked with receiving and shipping packages for client fittings, managing client fittings, coordinating with tailors and working with Ehrlich on her personal business and travel schedule.

According to the suit, Ericson was subject to gay slurs in front of other employees, accused of using his sexual orientation to form a “gay alliance” with another homosexual agent against Ehrlich, and was forced to discipline other male homosexuals in the office for behaving “too gay.” On one occasion, Ehrlich allegedly told Ericson that his sexuality made her uncomfortable, and to “tone down the gayness,” the suit claims.

Ehrlich allegedly also initially welcomed Ericson, remarking that he was a “nice, sweet boy,” but changed her approach towards him given his sexual orientation.

Ehrlich also is stated to have undermined Ericson’s workplace performance in front of clients such as Priyanka Chopra, Brie Larson, Alison Brie, and Laura Dern.

She also forced Ericson into conversations mocking his sexual orientation by joking that she was a lesbian, and following that such a choice would be a last resort, the suit claims.

Ehrlich would often require Ericson to stay in the office past his hours and skip meal breaks, during which she would become intoxicated and make personal phone calls, the suit alleges. Ericson eventually resigned from his position in March 2020, as he could no longer endure the alleged exploitative work conditions.

L.A. Celebrity Stylist Faces Lawsuit for Discrimination, Sexual Harassment

 

[fashionista-ta]

^ Very interesting lawsuit ... I'm glad he brought it.

 

[Benn98]

Why is this story not in the mainstream, it's appalling. Granted, celebrity fashion and high fashion are two completely different worlds with different sets of 'rules', but gay men have always been associated with fashion. God, it's one of the very few industries where they're allowed freedom of expression. In principle, it seems...

Obviously this Erlich woman deserves to be dragged to court and I hope there will be serious repercussions or settlements involved. But I'm also keen on reporters pressing the likes of Brie Larson who tend to be so vocal and fan favourite Laura Dern, ask them what exactly they did when Erlich was so very clearly unprofessional in their presence at the expense of someone else. Probably kept quiet for fear of losing their access to HF brands.

The entire thing is nauseating.

 

[dior_couture1245]

What a cry baby.

Ericson should have grown a spine and had a conversation with his boss about her comments like an adult. And if nothing was resolved after that, he could have very easily have submitted his resignation.

Boohoo. I could care less about his "emotional trauma." If you kept the job after all these terrorizing incidents, you're stupid. It's like watching a horror movie and screaming at the screen as the character continues to wander through the haunted house, making their way down to the basement....WHY?!

You get what you tolerate. Such a p*ssy thing to do...not say a word about it, then have her served with papers.

 

[Benn98]

^So after reading the entire article and all the God-awful things she did, that's it? That's your takeaway? You basically blame the victim..'but why did you stay?'. As a (presumably) gay man yourself, that is what you're asking? Wow, wow.

Times like these when I ask myself if it's really such a good idea to be in defense of freedom of speech...

 

[iacoboi]

he could have very easily have submitted his resignation.

"What? Your boss is (ALLEGEDLY) discriminating you based on your sexual orientation, violating the Labor Code? LMAO just leave your only job and get another one." It's almost as if people can't just give up their main source of income and magically get another job. If Ericson's claims are true, why on earth are you only blaming the victim and not the the boss?!?

Boohoo. I could care less about his "emotional trauma."

You're not the judge for this lawsuit so what you care about is irrelevant. Also, putting in quotation marks the words "emotional trauma" really says a lot about you.

It's like watching a horror movie and screaming at the screen as the character continues to wander through the haunted house

It's almost as if a work environment shouldn't be an haunted house and an employee shouldn't be afraid of any "monsters"

Such a p*ssy thing to do...not say a word about it, then have her served with papers.

Yeah, how dare he sue someone for (ALLEGEDLY) ruining his psycho-physical wellbeing and potentially his career? Smh, suing someone for comitting a crime... such a p*ssy thing to do... they should have sorted it out in a boxing ring or with a sword duel like in the old days!

 

[fashionista-ta]

^ Well, welcome to tFS, I like you already

I was wondering something similar to you, Benn, about Priyanka Chopra. I am willing to speak my mind and stand up for people in virtually any setting ... people have def gotten tired of my telling the truth before It's possible the witnesses didn't fully understand what was going on, but it also sounds like she wasn't at all subtle.

When you don't have much/any experience, it's difficult because you don't know what's normal. My very first real job was with IBM, which at the time had probably the most powerful HR dept I've ever seen--an extremely employee-positive environment. Managers lost their roles all the time due to their employees' survey feedback. I had no idea how atypical it was, so when I then went to work for the most backward company I've ever seen, I did manage to get myself in trouble. I am imagining this guy was in a similar situation where he didn't know what to expect/what's atypical/what's criminal/etc.

 

[dior_couture1245]

Yes. I am blaming a "victim." And?

Sitting around and watching what he obviously considered abuse to happen while happily collecting his paycheck, waiting for the perfect moment to quit and serve her papers is not really ethical, either.

And this is an extremely bougie job. Let’s not pretend he was one paycheck away from living on the streets. Like, as if he spoke up he’d be fired and subsequently homeless.

I’m in no way defending this woman, but I’m also not going to shed a tear for this man either.

These days, coming out and claiming to be a victim is far too valuable of social currency to pass up for people. You don’t know much about life and human behavior if you think manipulation and scheming are ONLY behavior reserved for those “in power.”

And you’re also bafflingly naive to think, expect or even wish that every work environment can or should be some place where everyone holds hands and smiles and sings campfire songs. The world is cutthroat. That’s life. And you either get tough or you step out of the ring. I’m not condoning serious abuse, but I’m also of the mind that if work should be rainbows and puppy dogs. A lot of jobs have high stakes. There is a lot of pressure. What do you want?

These are the same people that think it’s abuse for an intern to get coffee and work late hours during fashion week. Grow up.

 

[iacoboi]

Yes. I am blaming a "victim." And?

Glad you asked! But before i start let me make a quick premise : for the sake of the argument let's pretend Ericson's claims are true in their entirety and that Cristina actually did those things . In the "real" world she is innocent until proven guilty but this is just a way to avoid repeating the word "allegedly" one hundred times while i write this post.

Sitting around and watching what he obviously considered abuse to happen while happily collecting his paycheck, waiting for the perfect moment to quit and serve her papers is not really ethical, either.

Well, maybe you don't know it but if you try to sue someone for only ONE instance of discrimination even your own lawyer will laugh at you. The best thing to do is to keep track of all the instances and collect as much evidence as possible in order to build a case. It may have been """"""unethical"""""" but it was definitely the smart thing to do. Also, what do you mean with "waiting for the perfect moment"? He's suing her for God's sake ! Do you really expected him to call her beforehand and say: "Hey Cristina, i was thinking of suing you for a million dollar this week, are you ok with it or do you already have other plans? You know, i don't want to mess up your schedule or anything... "?
I just find it weird how you seem more concerned about the ethics of how and when to sue someone rather than the actual discrimination...

Like, as if he spoke up he’d be fired and subsequently homeless.

I know he isn't going to end up begging in a dark alleyway overnight, i was debating your logic according to which when there is an instance of a boss abusing his employee the solution should be for the employee to leave the job and not to actually try to change the boss behavior or, ultimately, punish the boss.

I’m in no way defending this woman

Well, every other single word of both of your posts seems to suggest otherwise so I'm happy you cleared that up, i must have misunderstood your words

You don’t know much about life and human behavior if you think manipulation and scheming are ONLY behavior reserved for those “in power.”

I've never claimed that.

And you’re also bafflingly naive to think, expect or even wish that every work environment can or should be some place where everyone holds hands and smiles and sings campfire songs.

Again, I've never claimed that. Bosses that behave like/are assh*les exist and will always exist: it's not a "nice" thing but you can't really do anything about it and sometimes it's needed to get work done. But one thing is being rude to your employees because they are late, don't do their job properly or stuff like that while it's ENTIRELY another thing if your boss discriminates you based on your sexual orientation. This first instance is not illegal, the second one is (in the case of California please refer to the "California’s Fair Employment and Housing Act (Gov. Code §12940 et seq.)").

The world is cutthroat. That’s life. And you either get tough or you step out of the ring

Wow, these phrases are SO badass!! The only thing that's missing is a black and white pic of cross-armed Vin Diesel looking pissed in the background and they are ready to be posted on Facebook by middle-aged men who have themselves wearing sunglasses as a profile pic.

I’m not condoning serious abuse, but I’m also of the mind that if work should be rainbows and puppy dogs. A lot of jobs have high stakes. There is a lot of pressure. What do you want?

.........to not be treated in an illegal manner by my employer...?

These are the same people that think it’s abuse for an intern to get coffee and work late hours during fashion week. Grow up.

Who are "these people"? Are you talking about me? I've never claimed those things. I want to believe you just worded it poorly and that you don't believe asking to work extra hours has the same "weight" as discriminating someone. Still, pretty tasteless comment to make.

 

[dior_couture1245]

Let me put it this way as a comparison between what I think is right and admirable vs. what so many people do now:

A kid is in the popular group at school, and the most popular kid in that group is a playground bully. This kid likes being a part of the popular group - likes the prime lunch spot, likes that everyone talks about them, likes being in the in-crowd. However, he doesn’t like that the bully treats all those in the group, including this kid, poorly - always tearing them down, making degrading comments, etc.

However, this kid just stands by and watches it happen constantly and takes the insults constantly, but keeps his mouth shut. He doesn’t want to disrupt the group or lose out on the social status afforded him by being in this group. So he quietly and sneakily “collects evidence,” instead.

At the end of the school year, this kid takes all this evidence and tattles on the bully to the principal, getting the bully expelled and unable to graduate.

OR

There’s a kid in the popular group, who after getting bullied or witnessing the main kid of the group bully others, stands up for himself and the others, risking his social status for the sake of doing the right thing. He confronts the bully and addressed the conflict and the issue head on. He doesn’t sit around and wait to “gather evidence.” He does what is right at the moment, he does the hard thing - sparing himself and others further abuse - AS WELL AS giving the bully an opportunity to see their fault, and potentially reform their ways.

I know this little analogy is corny - but I’m trying to make a point here that all we do now is sit around and applaud people and call them brave and stunning for tolerating abuse for months, years, decades, and doing nothing…and then finally when it’s socially convenient and once they’ve gotten what they need out of the situation or relationship, everyone now is happy to “speak their truths.”

It’s f*cked up.

 

[nejtak]

From my experience, it often takes courage to stand up for oneself. And to find that courage can take time or it can take several incidents of abuse until one finally cracks. I can only speak for myself but I highly doubt that anybody suffering misconduct at the work place asked for it and is not necessarily prepared to handle the situation the way they would like to in the moment. But also, how can there be a right or wrong with how someone being mistreated reacts to the injustice by a work superior?

One can only hope though that the motivation behind this is not selfish. I hope the money, should he win the lawsuit, goes to an organisation.