Model Behavior (PLEASE READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING)

[MulletProof]

^^ yeah to all of that.. you'd think their publicists or anyone in their team would bother to dig up some more information on what their client will endorse. I don't think they're to blame but definitely hold more than a grain of responsibility. Also.. the lineup should've given them a hint (Blink 182 lol..).

Can't say my schadenfreude has been kept on check for this one.. .. and the words of support are just too funny "I hope everyone is safe with their families" "I'm horrified to read what people went through".. you'd think they were stuck with 200 other people in a boat trying to reach Italy. Instead, they were stuck in a Bahamas island, glorified through the riches of cartel crime (which is also pure terrorism), with low battery and eating non gluten-free sandwiches with *gasp* just cheese and ew, a tent that "looked like a refugee camp and not the luxury vacation and party full of models that I signed up for". Everything, from their initial attraction down to the unfortunate turn of events, represents a demographic that gets little to no sympathy from me. At least I hope they took plenty of pictures of this unique experience for their instagram...

 

[readings]

ˆ yes to all of this.

 

[theBlueRider]

It's been awhile since I've logged onto Tfs but thought I'd chime in.

Does anyone know how much involvement the agencies had with this particular promotion? In this day of social media, I see Emrata with sponsored posts for those gummy vitamins and I can't see DNA booking that.

The main organizer of the event, Billy McFarland, is super shady and known to be shady in the business world. This just goes to show how even the instamodels aren't actually as great of businesspeople as the media wants us to think. A lot of business ventures fail in this millennial era because of lack of education and real skills but just not on this big of a stage for everyone to see.

I'm curious to see if the models end up being involved with the lawsuit. I think a lot of those models are just naive and don't know how to be proper businesswomen. I think the attacks on the models are a bit unnecessary too. Back in the day, a model wasn't expected to use the products of her campaigns in her personal life. She was simply playing a role in an advertisement. It was her own choice off work to use a Prada handbag when she's in the Fendi campaign. Now things are expected to be real. Real but still a fantasy. Fake but come across as real.

Social media was supposed to provide regular people with a glimpse of models' real lives. But now it's has been edited and manipulated the same way as all other fictional media but it is supposed to pass as real. It is the worse kind of fantasy.

 

[eizhowa]

I didn't realize they were advertising that Bella Hadid etc would be there. I might have missed something though. Surely that would be false advertisement?

 

[fashionista-ta]

^ I don't know what exactly was advertised ... but if 6-8 models are promoting a festival on their social media, Bella Hadid is in a video about the festival, etc., would it not be a reasonable assumption that they are attending?

Let's say Jimi Hendrix was alive and promoting a music festival on his Instagram ... wouldn't you expect him and his guitar to be there?

Are we getting to the point where we should just assume that everything on social media (particularly certain accounts ) is a lie? That's really not a world, or a country, I want to live in.

 

[eizhowa]

^But models are always promoting other peoples stuff. Hendrix created his own stuff. Very different situations that require very different expectations.

 

[Armani]

The reason why the models may also be sued is because they failed to achieve FTC guidelines (adding #ad to the end of their videos, basically disclosing that the post is an ad & they get a commission from it), not to blame for the festival. However, I do agree that they are definitely not to blame for the festival at all, the owners behind it were. Bella said herself she genuinely thought the festival would be an amazing experience for everyone, & it didn't live up to that.

 

[zoom]

OMG! Snejana got divorced!

Shocker, she's a mess. Hope she can find some happiness for herself.

 

[fashionista-ta]

^But models are always promoting other peoples stuff. Hendrix created his own stuff. Very different situations that require very different expectations.

They create their 'own stuff' too, however superficial it may be, and it seems reasonable to me to expect they would 'bring it' to the festival.

As for genuinely thinking the festival would be an amazing experience for everyone ... OK.

 

[Littleathquakes]

So going back to that Kendall Jenner Pepsi fail, I'm sure you've all seen the Heineken version that was much better. But I thought this was kinda hilarious...some protesters threw Pepsi cans at a recent protest.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/oregon-protest-may-day-pepsi-police_us_59086fd1e4b02655f8404860

 

[jena92]

I don't like that Kendall never said anything about it.. It makes me see her as a person who doen't care and thinks she is above everyone when from what i have seen she doesn't seem like that type of person

 

[eizhowa]

I don't like this whole models as public persons thing. We still can't hold corporations socially responsible, but it is fine to go after individuals. The world makes no sense.

 

[badgalcrush]

Do someone know what happened between Monica Rose and the Kardashians ?
Apparently she got fired from them ...
I find it super weird because she used to be very successful to styled them (especially everything clothes that she puts on them end up sold out online )
Wondering if Gigi will drop her too

 

[Mea Culpa]

Do someone know what happened between Monica Rose and the Kardashians ?
Apparently she got fired from them ...
I find it super weird because she used to be very successful to styled them (especially everything clothes that she puts on them end up sold out online )
Wondering if Gigi will drop her too

A couple of articles but nothing is really clarified...

http://www.allure.com/story/kardashians-monica-rose-feud
http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/04/khloe-kardashian-is-no-longer-using-stylist-monica-rose.html

 

[Zposen]

Do someone know what happened between Monica Rose and the Kardashians ?
Apparently she got fired from them ...
I find it super weird because she used to be very successful to styled them (especially everything clothes that she puts on them end up sold out online )
Wondering if Gigi will drop her too

It has been reported that Gigi is no longer working with her...

 

[constanceMafioso]

I don't understand how people can get so delusional that they think the models or advertising tean are to blame, even in the slightest.

This is true. People are giving models in general WAY too much business, project planning, finance, marketing, philosophical etc. skills than they actually have.

Though I really like models, they are just what they are. They execute contracts [which very often do not state all the facts and which I'm pretty sure models don't even read] using their physical aesthetic and that's about all there is to it.

The notion that they have power or that much influence based on how much followers their social media have is a small stance analysis and just a way of moving the needle away from the people who really have that power and sometimes tend to the most stupidest things with it (Pepsi, Zara...)

The true powerful people if they really did care then you would not have had the Pepsi debacle, or, racism would have long gone away in fashion when so stated notorious fashion models have openly spoken against it. The reality is that many of the girls are just puppets for something they simply have no kind of control upon. And, I'm not even sure the CEO, COO, CFO... of these corporation even have control over their own toys at this height of power.

When LVMH is now valued more than Total (nearly 113 billion euros) why should they be held accountable from a social standpoint on certain things when their revenue and cash flow is ultra-positive? And, which model who wants work would go frontally against them?

Some might say Taylor battled Apple but Taylor is worth 300 million and can do whatever she wants, including creating her own streaming platform without losing a single fan. Much can't be said about girls like Bella or Kendall who are never ever going to be able to create something even remotely close to the Gucci and Chanel of this world, giving them a big middle finger, without looking entirely ridiculous. They don't have the savoir-faire nor the intrinsic business skills for that.

This is a typical case of the law of the strongest and unfortunately, models are always going to be the losers in this. I'm not a massive fan of Bella per se but in the fail festival it's going to be easier to attack her than the dudes who put up this mess of a scam. It's the same thing with Kendall. Up to this date, no one still knows who was that CMO (Chief Marketing Officer) or CBO (Chief Brand Officer), who initially validated that Pepsi thing as being a good find. So people will see Kendall. So goes the world! People always tend to see the wall. Only a few will go for what's actually behind that wall.

 

[Scotty]

Here we go again.. Kendall getting backlash for being on Indian Vogue cover.

The usual reasoning..

The publication, which is celebrating a decade in print, featured the model and reality TV star in a cover shoot photographed by Mario Testino. While the imagery itself, taken on location in Jaipur, was beautiful per usual, it didn’t go down well with everyone, with readers complaining that that they would have preferred to see an Indian celebrity or model instead.
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Why not an Indian model there are so many??? This doesn’t create the sense that India has its own beauty and character,” Facebook user Kavita Shourie commented on Vogue India’s page.
“She is beautiful but I’m pretty sure in a county of over 1 billion they could have found an Indian!” user Nikita Martinz said. “If they want international phenomena Priyanka [Chopra] and Deepika [Padukone] are huge right now.”
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Indian actor Sushant Singh Rajput appears in some of the shots, posing alongside Jenner, but she appears on the cover solo.
Others were offended that Jenner didn’t post photos from the cover story on her personal Instagram account, unlike when she scored the front pages of other titles.
“She didn’t even post these pictures on her Instagram because it’s Vogue India. And you chose her as the cover model,” Instagram user Plein.de.viee said.
Two weeks ago, she appeared on the cover of the Harpers Bazaar U.S. 150th anniversary edition and a March Vogue U.S. group cover, both of which she shared on Instagram. Last year, Jenner also posted her turns on the covers of the American, Spanish, German and Australian Vogue editions.

https://www.yahoo.com/style/peak-kendall-jenner-cover-backlash-084407914.html

 

[kokobombon]

^I want to know if the people complaining are actually people 1)living in India and 2)buys VI on a regular basis.
Because VI embraces their culture like no other Vogue imo, from their covers to their content. Always features indian celebs, never reprinting american celebs like Kardashian (if I remember correctly) so to bash the mag because one time they have a western celeb on their cover is ridiculous imo...
I think it was a move thought to bring more exposure to the publication because it´s not a very popular one, judging by reaction of tFS members to it each month (VI rarely gets a thread with rarely exceding one page of comments, Jenner´s has 3 pages of comments and that´s a record).

 

[gbam]

Linda Evangelista posted this on instagram

 

[Lola701]

^^
It's sad but it's a sign of a time. I mean people go to a fashion show or a show period and instead of being in the moment, they are recording what they are supposed to enjoy.

Let's be honest, 98% of those who were invited at the MET did not knew anything about Rei Kawakubo or even Comme Des Garcons. I saw her in the livestream and no one actually paid attention to her...Yes she was fast but come on'.

People only knows about Comme Des Garcons Play. Nobody cares about fashion these days...It's all about labels.