Model Behavior (PLEASE READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING)

[Lola701]

If they were posting from Saudi they wouldn't have to disclose it. This law only applies in the US and any other countries that have passed the law. In Australia our influencers do not have to disclose ads or sponsorships.

And the thing is that they are very clever about the way they operate it. Technically, they are paid to attend but they are invited...You know like when brands invite journalists and all to trips for the Resort shows. Trips and activities are all paid by the brand and even if you aren’t asked to post about it, you’ll naturally post about it.

For a model, it’s not different from another job...This time, it’s really for fun and extra money at a great period. Some went with their glam squad and all...

We can maybe blame the game but not the players and when the players are playing cleverly....

 

[Phuel]

Plus Halima Aden, Irina Shayk.....

This is a slippery slope. I understand the criticism, but if you rail against these models you also have to rail against Vogue Arabia, all the top models and photographers who shoot for them, designers going over there for trunk shows. It just seems a bit like cherry-picking to me because these girls are easy targets.

Absolutely.

And I don’t even think it’s that deep. People are expecting an industry that’s mainly based on the most superficial and frivolous of means hustling products to be genuinely and fully dedicated and invested in humanitarian progression. And of all its players— they're expecting the top elitist of models to be fully invested as spokeswomen for these very complex humanitarian of causes.

The powers-that-be of the fashion and luxury industry in principle goes overwhelmingly against everything that is truly politically-correct/environmentally sustainable/human rights conscious. In no sense is the industry kinder, gentler nor more compassionate: Things are the same as it ever was— I’d even say it’s more aggressively insincere. I’ve made peace with that long ago and don’t pretend I’m such a more ethically-conscientious individual for wearing a ridiculously expensive coat just because it’s not produced by child/sweatshop labour. That money I paid for the coat could have gone to more humanitarian causes. No different than the money I spend on my home/vacation/dining could be spent on aiding humanitarian causes etc.

I’ve never understood holding fashion models to such high esteem and standards outside of their work in the industry— other than to heed the most superficial of lip service from a very young pretty face. Halima’s Muslim-identity is used as a gimmick to sell to wealthy Muslim girls in the very conservative ME. No different than Ashley Graham's plus size body is used to sell to bigger women. Everyone’s got a gimmick to optimize profits— and more so than ever now in the days of shallow, hollow and superficial social justice flexing. Look at Edward and his Vogue— he’s nothing more than a cheerleader for the “inclusivity and diversity” tagline that rival Maria Grazia’s. And both hawking outrageously expensive (and unnecessary) fashions at the end of it all. These people are engulfed in the daily existence of expensive brands that they need to promote and hustle with whatever tactics they need to in order to keep their clientele’s profit margins happy. Social justice and environmental sustainability just happens to be the trendy gimmick of the day to sell everything from razors to ballgowns. And models, of all peoples, aren't the brightest bunch in general. I’m not going to cry hypocrisy when Joan, Irina, of fashion rags but the IRL attend glamorous events in countries where gays and women are treated like a plague to be wiped out or quarantined. These aren’t the role models for political and social activism— and nor is the industry in general.

 

[theBlueRider]

Absolutely.

And I don’t even think it’s that deep. People are expecting an industry that’s mainly based on the most superficial and frivolous of means hustling products to be genuinely and fully dedicated and invested in humanitarian progression. And of all its players— they're expecting the top elitist of models to be fully invested as spokeswomen for these very complex humanitarian of causes.

The powers-that-be of the fashion and luxury industry in principle goes overwhelmingly against everything that is truly politically-correct/environmentally sustainable/human rights conscious. In no sense is the industry kinder, gentler nor more compassionate: Things are the same as it ever was— I’d even say it’s more aggressively insincere. I’ve made peace with that long ago and don’t pretend I’m such a more ethically-conscientious individual for wearing a ridiculously expensive coat just because it’s not produced by child/sweatshop labour. That money I paid for the coat could have gone to more humanitarian causes. No different than the money I spend on my home/vacation/dining could be spent on aiding humanitarian causes etc.

I’ve never understood holding fashion models to such high esteem and standards outside of their work in the industry— other than to heed the most superficial of lip service from a very young pretty face. Halima’s Muslim-identity is used as a gimmick to sell to wealthy Muslim girls in the very conservative ME. No different than Ashley Graham's plus size body is used to sell to bigger women. Everyone’s got a gimmick to optimize profits— and more so than ever now in the days of shallow, hollow and superficial social justice flexing. Look at Edward and his Vogue— he’s nothing more than a cheerleader for the “inclusivity and diversity” tagline that rival Maria Grazia’s. And both hawking outrageously expensive (and unnecessary) fashions at the end of it all. These people are engulfed in the daily existence of expensive brands that they need to promote and hustle with whatever tactics they need to in order to keep their clientele’s profit margins happy. Social justice and environmental sustainability just happens to be the trendy gimmick of the day to sell everything from razors to ballgowns. And models, of all peoples, aren't the brightest bunch in general. I’m not going to cry hypocrisy when Joan, Irina, of fashion rags but the IRL attend glamorous events in countries where gays and women are treated like a plague to be wiped out or quarantined. These aren’t the role models for political and social activism— and nor is the industry in general.

"Aggressively insincere"
"Hollow and superficial social justice flexing"

Yes, yes, yes!

I blame social media and models.com for pushing the fake social justice warrior model concept. It was only a few years ago that all models were required to be on Instagram and then all the agencies and directors started pushing the girls to have a "brand" and "platform." Like mentioned previously, none of these top models are really that well educated on the topics they talk about. Most are high school drop outs or attended a lower tier University for an unrelated major. Who knows what their grades and attendance were like. None of them have years of working in extensive research grants But fashion journalists love to do interviews with them like they are Nelson Mandela or Jane Goodall. Not to mention many of the humanitarian organizations/charity balls they start are actually for tax evasion.

Long gone are the days when models were just models and no one was pushing them to have a platform or soapbox. They just modeled and could stay relatively unknown to the public eye. There wasn't pressure for them to be extra or something they're not. It was kind of a good thing because they could go on to do something meaningful without having to worry about being glamorous or being on Instagram. These models worrying about trying to stay in the 1% and get a noble peace prize just enables the dirty money behavior.

 

[Phuel]

^^^ I’m more bothered by editors/designers/fashion journalists doing that sort of PC AND SJ flexing (I’m actually embarrassed for the weak and sloppy gimmick from Emanuele’s Feb issue of VI..) than a bunch of young people who are just casual participants cuz who isn’t an "activist” these days-- and are told to do so by their agencies in the same sentence as “you need to grow/cut your hair and loose 10 pounds” etc. So I’ll cut these kids some slack.

With the more famous models, they’re not far removed from Hollywood superstars/popstars that preach/lecture environmental issues but IRL get around in limos/Lamborghinis/luxury yachts/private jets. Until I see Leonardo or Jourdan riding their bikes and taking public transit/flying economy, it’s just more political white noise that’s become a regular fixture in the digital age :yawn:

 

[theBlueRider]

^^Thing is a lot of them aren't kids. They're mostly over 25 years old some in their 30's. They could've used a lot of their modeling money to go to a decent University to learn about these things. They make enough money to donate to smart teens who can't afford Uni. But a lot of their money goes to clothes, handbags, Botox, airfare, Uber black rides. Just sayin'
There are girls like Kel Markey, Nimue Smit and even Lindsey Wixson to some degree who have used their modeling money to go off the radar and retire, learn something and do good stuff. But they're not Instaglamorous and not considered "relevant" anymore.

I just think models should be recognized as models and not be pushed to be seen as a pretty and glamorous Nelson Mandela. Until they put in the real work and research to become on the same playing field as a real environmental scientist or social scientist it's meaningless. Can't they find these real people anyway on social media? I'm sure there are plenty of pretty and intelligent girls getting their doctorates at MIT.

 

[dsamg]

True but it's not like anyone is forcing them to be on Instagram. You can still be incredibly successful without succumbing to it, like Nobis. If you want to be on the socials and have that public presence you have to deal with the backlash sh*tty decisions bring you.

 

[billiejbob]

True but it's not like anyone is forcing them to be on Instagram. You can still be incredibly successful without succumbing to it, like Nobis. If you want to be on the socials and have that public presence you have to deal with the backlash sh*tty decisions bring you.

Well Julia is on Instagram but she uses it very sporadically like Lindsey Wixson. Obviously now it's hard for a model (no matter what generation) to remain relevant without social media. But some use it more cautiously whether they keep it completely focused on their professional work or just not post too much crap that a lot of models do these days.

 

[theBlueRider]

True but it's not like anyone is forcing them to be on Instagram. You can still be incredibly successful without succumbing to it, like Nobis. If you want to be on the socials and have that public presence you have to deal with the backlash sh*tty decisions bring you.

Julia Nobis and Lindsey Wixson started modeling and acquired a very loyal client base before the Instagram train. Unfortunately, models starting out today are required to have an account as clients and casting agents prefer to look at Polaroids and self-shot images on social media today. Some will not even consider inviting a model to a casting if they have no Instagram. Portfolios and editorials no longer have the same weight as they did before. This is especially true for the commercial and money clients.

 

[Benn98]

Julia Nobis and Lindsey Wixson started modeling and acquired a very loyal client base before the Instagram train. Unfortunately, models starting out today are required to have an account as clients and casting agents prefer to look at Polaroids and self-shot images on social media today. Some will not even consider inviting a model to a casting if they have no Instagram. Portfolios and editorials no longer have the same weight as they did before. This is especially true for the commercial and money clients.

But most of the girls add loads of filters and whatnot onto those images, so what's the point? Lol.
Sad state of affairs, to be honest.

 

[dsamg]

Well Julia is on Instagram but she uses it very sporadically like Lindsey Wixson. Obviously now it's hard for a model (no matter what generation) to remain relevant without social media. But some use it more cautiously whether they keep it completely focused on their professional work or just not post too much crap that a lot of models do these days.

Julia does not have any public Instagram account. There is a high-profile fake account (juliaobis) that has been reported many times that many members of the industry have fallen for and still follow. She does have a private account. hope anyone following that fake here unfollows and reports.

 

[Armani]

Well Julia is on Instagram but she uses it very sporadically like Lindsey Wixson. Obviously now it's hard for a model (no matter what generation) to remain relevant without social media. But some use it more cautiously whether they keep it completely focused on their professional work or just not post too much crap that a lot of models do these days.

Sorry to diverge off-topic, but what’s Julia’s Instagram? Would love to follow. (Just in case, @juliaobis is a fanpage! Not sure what happened but they used to have "FP" in their bio.)

Obviously I wrote this reply before I finished reading the whole thread. Thanks @dsamg There seems to be quite a few fakes under her name, actually. I think, like Freja, regardless of being verified on Instagram, if a real account exists her agencies will tag her in posts and spread the word to clients.

 

[dsamg]

Sorry to diverge off-topic, but what’s Julia’s Instagram? Would love to follow. (Just in case, @juliaobis is a fanpage! Not sure what happened but they used to have "FP" in their bio.)

Obviously I wrote this reply before I finished reading the whole thread. Thanks @dsamg There seems to be quite a few fakes under her name, actually. I think, like Freja, regardless of being verified on Instagram, if a real account exists her agencies will tag her in posts and spread the word to clients.

So basically every time they get reported they put FP in the bio so Instagram doesn't remove them, and then immediately take it out. I don't know what is wrong with people that they need to go to these lengths to impersonate people! She does have a private Insta that her friends like Hanne Gaby etc are following. Agree completely, I think it is safe to say that if their agency and friends are not following, it's a fake.

 

[Benn98]

Hanaa Ben Abdesslem's husband appears to be a bit on the punchy side, that's if you can read past all the embarrassing typos!

You know how they say that those who torture animals may well go on to become serial killers? My THEORY is that if this bloke sees nothing wrong to let his fists do the talking on a stranger, what's to stop him from taking it out on his wife if she steps out of line?



EXCLUSIVE: Vogue cover girl Hanaa Ben Abdesslem's new millionaire property tycoon husband is thug convicted of vicious assault at his brother's engagement party

• Hanaa Ben Abdesslem's husband Amerpal Lamba beat up a party-goer at his family's home in Barnet, North London
• Lamba, 32, was given an 18-month jail sentence suspended for two years and fined £2,000 at Wood Green Crown Court
• His wife was said to be 'close to tears' in court as she saw the evidence against her husband
• Couple wed in a lavish two-day ceremony in her hometown of Nabeul, Tunisia, last summer
• They met at Lake Como two years ago where Lamba told the model on their first date that she would be his wife

By SHEKHAR BHATIA & VIVEK CHAUDHARY FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 15:54 GMT, 16 January 2020 | UPDATED: 16:14 GMT, 16 January 2020

A Vogue cover girl is married to a millionaire property developer who was convicted of a vicious assault, MailOnline can reveal.

Hanaa Ben Abdesslem wed London millionaire property consultant Amerpal Lamba in a lavish two-day ceremony in her hometown of Nabeul, Tunisia last summer.

For the evening reception at the stunning La Badira hotel, Ms Ben Abdesslem wore a gown and veil made of real gold which took more than a year to make.

The glamorous couple live in London's exclusive Knightsbridge area, enjoying an extravagant lifestyle where they are regulars on the capital's social scene and frequently fly abroad for breaks.

She is also the first Muslim 'spokes model' for the French perfume and cosmetic house Lancôme.

She has also featured on the front cover of a number of high profile fashion magazines.

The couple were introduced at a charity event on Lake Como two years ago with Lamba telling her on their first date that she would be his wife.

Ms Ben Abdeseele, 29, was said to be 'close to hears' as she attended court to see her husband convicted of attacking a guest at his brother's engagement party.

His vicious assault at the Lamba family home in upmarket Hadley Wood, Barnet, North London, left a man in hospital requiring urgent treatment to his jaw and leaving him unable to eat properly for weeks.

The victim, Rajesh Tripathi suffered several chipped teeth and severe blood loss and told police he had never met Lamba before.

Lamba, 32, was given an 18-month prison sentence, suspended for two years last November at Wood Green Crown Court, North London, and ordered to pay property manager Mr Tripathi £2,000 in compensation.

Mr Tripathi, 38, told the court that he had a brief conversation at the bar and had offered Lamba a drink before being attacked by him.

Mr Tripathi told MailOnline from his Essex home that he was still recovering from the attack and receiving treatment, but declined to comment further.

A friend of the property manager said: 'This was a terrible attack that happened out of the blue.

'Raj was with his wife and they had been dancing and enjoying themselves when Lamba attacked him.

'Several people had to pull Lamba off who carried on hitting Raj even though he had blacked out.'

Lamba's family own the Smart Move property agency and have offices in Mayfair and Edmonton, North London.

Despite his conviction, Lamba's Muslim role model wife whose motto is 'work hard, dream big…and never give up' is helping him through his problems and the couple were seen out together this week in London.

She has dyed her hair red and was last week posting pictures from Verbier, Switzerland with the message 'My Love.'

Ms Ben Abdesslem might not be a household name in Britain but she is well known in her native Tunisia and the Middle East, where she shot to fame in 2007 after coming runner-up in the Lebanese version of Project Runway.

A successful career in the fashion industry has followed in the years since.

Speaking once to New York Magazine, Ms Ben Abdesslem - who does not smoke or drink alcohol - said she was determined to change the perceptions of modeling in Tunisia.

'People in Tunisia have this misconception of what modeling is about,' she said. 'Modeling can be a career choice, too. I plan to change this misconception within my culture.'

Recalling their meeting, Lamba told Vogue Arabia: 'We were introduced through our mutual friends and on our first date, I told her, 'You are going to be my wife'.'

The couple became engaged in March last year when Lamba popped the question on a snow-covered mountain in Switzerland.

Gushing over the proposal on Instagram, Ms Ben Abdesslem wrote: 'Out of all of my fingers, this one is now my favorite! It sure does have a ring to it… Never thought I could experience such joy until I met you.

'You have opened my heart to a new part of life, making it complete. I say yes to you my darling, I say yes to life, to an endless love. He stole my heart, so I'm stealing his last name!'

MailOnline has contacted Lamba for comment.

Daily Mail

 

[Runabout]

I'm not sure about the theory that cancel culture doesn't work...try asking the Skinny b*tch Collective how business is going.

Even if cancel culture does work, it works in weird ways.

Julia Nobis and Lindsey Wixson started modeling and acquired a very loyal client base before the Instagram train. Unfortunately, models starting out today are required to have an account as clients and casting agents prefer to look at Polaroids and self-shot images on social media today. Some will not even consider inviting a model to a casting if they have no Instagram. Portfolios and editorials no longer have the same weight as they did before. This is especially true for the commercial and money clients.

There's a hidden rule in this however: you need to have a famous parent. Nobody's gonna hype you if you're not born to a celebrity... This has been a pattern in the current climate.

 

[Runabout]

Even if cancel culture does work, it works in weird ways.

...sometimes. That doesn't mean I say SBC being canceled isn't justified, because after reading about it again, it is justified.

And apparently I noticed that they're also the ones behind that Maasai workout back then, of which I've seen the post here a long time ago...

 

[FashionMuseDior]

Kaia just posted a picture on Instagram and apparently she's teasing her pregnancy (Pete Davidson I'm assuming)

 

[tapenerd]

I saw that. I think she’s just trolling everyone.

 

[McKinney]

I saw that. I think she’s just trolling everyone.

Darn it! Was hoping we would see less of her if she's pregnant

 

[tapenerd]

^If only it were that simple

 

[Armani]