Who Will Succeed John Galliano At Dior? #2 *Update Raf Simons Offically Hired*

[angel222]

Why did no one think of Betsey Johnson I ask? A queen before here time since the 60s, and no one can say she's not forward thinking.

 

[dior_couture1245]

^^You've got to be kidding.

 

[Dkammern]

Originally Posted by CholoChic
I loved what he said. clap, clap, clap...

LVMH is like a monster who destroys artist´s souls
and fills them with poison and then vomite them
and let them alone...

not just designers, but also distillers. I'm not liking what they are doing the the Glenmorangie brand of scotch whiskey.

Wrote an awfully long post, then deleted it, then rewrote it, then deleted it, and all I am going to say is.

1) This is what nobody has said about the designer-company relationship: Designers sign a contract, they know what they are facing, and most importantly, they never seem to complain about the outrageous salaries and perks that go with the jobs they take. If it really was too much pressure he was facing, nothing has held Galliano back from resigning his contract and downsizing to design for just his eponymous line.

2) Out of the tenths of thousands of employees in the LVMH group, tell me that they are all in terrible conditions, that they are not paid fair salaries, that they are not being taken care of...

And last,
If you think any other company would've allowed Galliano do show his most creative and crazy collections, well... think again. Think also of brands and the craftsmanship that would've died without the aid of the fantastical moneymaking machine that Vuitton is, and that helps financially sustaining the rest.

I've always been very critical with the group, and I have complained about the excessive control exerted over Dior in the past few years, I just thought the precedent post was verging a bit on the nonsensical. It is not because they are bigger and stronger that they should always be blamed and called poisonous monsters.


EDIT: thejarc is right on the ownership schema of the group. As they partly own eachother and have a majority of shareholders in common, they can (from a legal point of view) be called a group, although not "the lvmh group" per se if you see what i mean

 

[Dkammern]

Vanessa Friedman and I seem to think alike: http://blogs.ft.com/material-world/2011/06/27/fashion-did-not-destroy-galliano/#axzz1QVTGiw6A

 

[angel222]

^^ Dkammern. The vast majority of designers starting out are starving artists who at times are homeless like John and Haider Ackermann. Similar to every non-business side person they don't know the long term business impact of their decisions. Every one wants things to turn out well and believe that few thing will go wrong, but in life everything does go wrong and there is not always a safety net. Yes, you can say they were given due warning before they signed a pact with the Devil, but is it because they had the maturity to really understand what's going on? I doubt it because the only way to be successful is to gain financial support from large companies who then put in these clauses that they'll regret 15 years down the line if not sooner.

 

[CholoChic]

how much was he paid, anyone knows?
I am terrifie about so many secrets into fashion business

 

[mikeijames]

^^ Dkammern. The vast majority of designers starting out are starving artists who at times are homeless like John and Haider Ackermann. Similar to every non-business side person they don't know the long term business impact of their decisions. Every one wants things to turn out well and believe that few thing will go wrong, but in life everything does go wrong and there is not always a safety net. Yes, you can say they were given due warning before they signed a pact with the Devil, but is it because they had the maturity to really understand what's going on? I doubt it because the only way to be successful is to gain financial support from large companies who then put in these clauses that they'll regret 15 years down the line if not sooner.

this vision of the world finds itself a bit skewed. the majority of working designers find themselves toiling away at the lower levels at large fashion houses and clothing retailers. they are not starving artists living only on the sale of their next frock. in the real world, most people have day jobs. they may hate those day jobs, but that's reality. i've found that many starving artists are just rich kids who have spent up their last allowance check (not that there's anything wrong with that).

 

[angel222]

^ Yes most need survival jobs like working in an office but the two examples John and Haider were both literally starving and the latter homeless and cleaning toilets. When I say starving artists it brings to mind Van Gogh but I don't see much difference between his sacrifice and those of clothing designers.

 

[mikeijames]

^while i empathize with their situations, we have to realize that the world of fashion -- because of some of these giant conglomerates and the publicity generated by the world of celebrity -- has grown significantly since the days those designers got their starts. there exists lots of opportunities within the fashion world these days that did not exist in times past. for the girl who styles windows for american apparel in kansas city, missouri, or the guy who does personal shopping and styling for his clients out of a nordstrom in spokane, washington, there exists outlets now in ways that never really existed in the world of decades past to express one's point of view.

 

[tortoisie]

Does anyone know when they'll announce a successor or future plans for Dior + John Galliano (the brand)? I'm becoming impatient...

 

[CholoChic]

By the way, they are finishing the couture pieces for the fashion couture week isnt it? maybe the new designer is working in it already
and it just will be annunced like Bill Gaytten for Galliano, the same day at the end of the show

 

[alice]

Christian Lacroix is a great choice for me...I don't know whether it's possible to see Lacroix for Dior though. No Bill Gaytten for Dior please.

 

[dioramour]

Thank you alice!
Christian Lacroix was my choice from the very beginning. But I was shot down by posts telling me he was too old (!) and not sexy enough (!?).
The man has and can bring sophisticated edgy glamour back to Dior that the less experienced designers can't.
He doesn't go to that cartoon or costume place John did but people, please take a look back at his exquisite embroidered dresses, outrageously gorgeous color/pattern combinations and sweeping gowns. Maybe not the "showman", but he's as close to the classic Dior as one could get.
It may just change some minds about age and sexy versus talent.
AND Lacroix seems available!
JMO
BTW... I love, love, love the genius John Galliano and still can't believe this devastating fall from grace.​

 

[Eccentricity]

Riccardo.

 

[Flashbang]

Dior 'taking all its time' to find Galliano successor

July 4 - Christian Dior is in no hurry to name a successor to the disgraced John Galliano as creative director, its chief executive Sidney Toledano said on Monday.

"You know when you ask young girls all the time when they are going to get married, they reply: When I find the right man," he told AFP as the Paris fashion house sent out its first post-Galliano haute couture collection.

Dior -- crown jewel of French tycoon Bernard Arnault's global luxury goods empire -- will "take all its time" in finding "a long-term solution", Toledano said, adding: "All options are open for the future."

With no permanent successor on the horizon, Monday's collection was overseen by Galliano's longtime right-hand man in the Dior atelier, Bill Gaytten, who is now in charge of the Dior-owned John Galliano label.

Gaytten took the applause at the end of the show at the Rodin museum with his first assistant Susanna Venegas.

Dior has been without a creative director since it sacked Galliano on the eve of the pret-a-porter collections in February as he faced allegations of making racist and anti-Semitic slurs.

At his trial last month, the Briton blamed drugs, alcohol and the pressures of his job for his conduct, adding he had no recollection of at least three incidents at a Paris cafe in which he is said to have made offensive remarks.

One of the incidents, captured in an amateur video, showed Galliano -- credited with reviving Dior's fortunes after he took over its creative helm in October 1996 -- apparently drunk and declaring a love for Hitler.

Judgement in his case is to be handed down on September 8.

fashionmag

 

[TianSoFine]

The thing about Lacroix is that he might not be a very smart choice financially. His own brand went bankrupt so we don't really know what to expect of sales of whatever he would do for Dior.

 

[CholoChic]

Did you notice that in Dior.com
they have edited the last couture fashion show made by Galliano?

Tonight while i was missing Galliano this couture week
I went to the site to see his last show and in a strange and bad taste act
they have cutted the final part where Galliano came out to receive the applauses.

Such a stupid they are.
I mean, they never will can delete the last horrible collection made by Gaytten
this season.

 

[Heroin_Chic]

Lacroix for Dior would be FANTASTIC! He would be a worthy successor.

 

[PoppyAzura]

What about Giambattista Valli or Ralph Rucci? Valli I feel would be a great choice--his HC collection shows that he can be a showman and he has the skills to bring new life to Dior. Rucci, while his clothes are for a more mature clientele, has the skills and would do well.

 

[Squizree]

Ok don't stone me, but I kinda want Oscar de La Renta to take the wheel at Dior now. At least he's been in the industry for a good long while, knows what he's doing and has done Couture before.