Who Will Succeed John Galliano At Dior? #2 *Update Raf Simons Offically Hired*

[LagerfeldBoy]

I completely agree with Cathy. Christopher Kane would be wonderful at Dior. The man has an abundance of creative ideas and that's honestly what Dior needs.

 

[mikeijames]

i love marc jacobs, but he's not right for dior. his collections for louis vuitton and his eponymous house seriously jump around with inspiration points so much that it's quite difficult for the average consumer to familiarize themselves with the aesthetic. on the one hand, it's great because the customer base of both of those houses get guaranteed thrills each season, but on the other hand, it's not right for a house that has an ACTUAL history with regard to clothing. dior needs someone with a more consistent perspective. also, after the scandal, dior does not need anyone who finds themselves plagued by the selfsame demons that unseated the former designer.

 

[Ives927]

^ Thank you. I have ALWAYS questioned Louis Vuitton's aesthetic and identity. I never grasped Marc's vision for Vuitton. Each season is so different than its predecessors, that they don't even appear to be from the same house. There isn't a clear cut aesthetic like Prada or Givenchy. He jumped from Spring 2010's hideous utilitarian collection to Fall 2010's ultra feminine and curve-loving collection, then to Spring 2011's Asian collection. I don't see the DNA for the house that threads each collection together for Louis Vuitton. You can argue Louis Vuitton's identity and focus is their luggage, but that alone doesn't excuse the lack of one for the RTW collections.

 

[iluvjeisa]

^LV just doesn't have a signature silhouette. Obviously, it has it's logo...but that's not good subtle and profound enough for clothing.

 

[angel222]

I guess they're considering Marc Jacobs cause he's still got the reputation of being all youthful and fresh to live on for a while, god knows in reality, he never created and he stopped stealing interesting ideas and recreating quality vintage finds many seasons ago. Why not having the guts of bringing a new name like in the old days? is there really a shortage of talent? has no one graduated from Antwerp or London or Bunka in the last 20 years? is it really that hard to trust someone with skills but unknown enough to be hard to define?.. they're not doing any favors to the industry by rotating the same 5 characters all the time, there is a thirst for something new, do they really think of all people, Marc Jacobs will be able to provide that? .. I hate sounding like Nicola but this extreme preference on the known versus the unknown is so typical of old businessmen, please retire!

Thanks and sorry for quoting the entire thing but it had to be done! The disk space used is justified to explain the psychology of what's going on in the decision making process to fill this position. Dior needs a "new look" which they invented way back describing the revolutionary way women should dress. And how can new fashion inventions be created when the list of people being considered are already "comfortable" with their creative selves rather than bring about new ideas to set out a second revolution? That is the question we all want to know.

 

[softgrey]

hmmm...
i wasn't so excited about the idea before...
but hearing all the options they are considering...
i'm starting to think that ricardo tisci could be the right way to go...

and i like phoebe at LV...
but i agree that it seems odd for her to do both LV and celine given that she has made such a point about having enough personal time in the past...

MJ is certainly adept at generating press and selling handbags for LV, so i could see him doing the same for dior- but i think they actually sell some of their clothes- (LV- not so much)...so i think that there has to be more than just hype...

and i agree with what someone else said---
LV is so very unfocused as a clothing brand- not sure how that would translate at dior...
galliano's collection were always a variation on the same theme and focused on a very specific woman...
MJ seems to lack that focus...
i really don't know what his point of view is..even after all these years...

hmmm...
the plot thickens!...

 

[iluvjeisa]

hmmm...
i wasn't so excited about the idea before...
but hearing all the options they are considering...
i'm starting to think that ricardo tisci could be the right way to go...

and i like phoebe at LV...
but i agree that it seems odd for her to do both LV and celine given that she has made such a point about having enough personal time in the past...

MJ is certainly adept at generating press and selling handbags for LV, so i could see him doing the same for dior- but i think they actually sell some of their clothes- (LV- not so much)...so i think that there has to be more than just hype...

and i agree with what someone else said---
LV is so very unfocused as a clothing brand- not sure how that would translate at dior...
galliano's collection were always a variation on the same theme and focused on a very specific woman...
MJ seems to lack that focus...
i really don't know what his point of view is..even after all these years...

hmmm...
the plot thickens!...

Still, if you look at his last Marc Jacobs collection (RTW FW2011/12), it does have some Dior trademarks. If you remove the jackets (which are more Balenciaga-like) there's something Dior about many of the outfits.

I think he could do it but it remains to be seen if he has the passion and not just the flair.

 

[ultramarine]

This past two days the blogs and news are abuzz about Jacobs taking over .. some go as far as to say this:

http://www.fashionweekdaily.com

2011 August 24
SCOOP! Marc Jacobs In at Dior, Sources Say

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(NEW YORK) Today, high-ranking industry sources have confirmed to The Daily that Bernard Arnault is tapping his rainmaking artistic director at Louis Vuitton for the top spot at Dior, which was vacated in March 2011 by John Galliano. An announcement is imminent. "I have no comment," said a Dior spokesperson. A Marc Jacobs spokesperson was not able to comment on the record; Jacobs and Duffy are currently out of the office. In Paris, we presume?
Jacobs, who has held the Vuitton post since 1997, has grown that brand's business exponentially, turning a once-staid leather goods house into one of Arnault's most dependable cash cows thanks, in no small part, to accessories. Dior, a much smaller piece of the LVMH empire, could be poised for similar growth thanks to Jacobs' reputation for moving massive amounts of (hugely-profitable) product at retail. As predicted by The Daily in early March, Jacobs' value to LVMH is greater in a role at Dior than at Louis Vuitton, where replacements are soon to be announced.
ASHLEY BAKER

 

[CholoChic]

Jacobs can do interesting things in Dior
but nobody will do all the marvelus things that Galliano did.

Will be I alive to see Dior brand dissapear?
and by the way Is Gaytten, the sweetheart, going to design the Galliano brand?
Or Jacobs will take the post?

 

[Label Basher]

Sorry but I'm 100% glad it's not Bill Gaytten. That HC couture collection was absolutely terrible.

 

[CholoChic]

yeah but they said that it was sold every piece, so why didnt they keep to bill? after all Bernault said that press critics doesnt change the $sells

 

[IAmLordZen]

PRADA has a CLEAR CUT AESTHETIC? excuse me, i almost gouged my eyes out at the sheer ludicrousness of this statement. they made shapeless clothes smothered in paillettes this season, and had bosom enhancing dresses the season before that. this OBVIOUSLY does not count as "clear cut aesthetic" does it? or do i need to update my dictionary? going back to topic, i can only clutch my rosary beads and pray marc does not eff Dior couture up.

 

[saann]

hmmm...
i wasn't so excited about the idea before...
but hearing all the options they are considering...
i'm starting to think that ricardo tisci could be the right way to go...

and i like phoebe at LV...
but i agree that it seems odd for her to do both LV and celine given that she has made such a point about having enough personal time in the past...

MJ is certainly adept at generating press and selling handbags for LV, so i could see him doing the same for dior- but i think they actually sell some of their clothes- (LV- not so much)...so i think that there has to be more than just hype...

and i agree with what someone else said---
LV is so very unfocused as a clothing brand- not sure how that would translate at dior...
galliano's collection were always a variation on the same theme and focused on a very specific woman...
MJ seems to lack that focus...
i really don't know what his point of view is..even after all these years...

hmmm...
the plot thickens!...

That's kind of why I'm not sure about how I would feel if he went there. I love that Marc lacks focus because I like the surprise his shows give, the 180s he does. I never know what to expect from his collections. And just like you said, at LV that worked because it's not a brand with a specific clothing aesthetic but Dior is so lets hope he is more focused here so the brand will live on.

 

[mistress_f]

i'm already weeping if that's actually true. I guess we won't be seeing any of this in the future then. Or this, for that matter
i like marc, i really do (although his recent collections have been a mess most of the time), but he seriously lacks focus, vision, i don't know. his collections, all of them, are all over the place. except for his earlier stuff, there's nothing that makes you say 'oh that's so jacobs!' in his work. someone like tisci can evolve and change radically but you can still say 'yes, that's him'. that's something i'd want from someone in charge at dior (or any couture line actually) and marc doesn't have it.

 

[mackos]

Well, Dior with Marc couldn't get much worse than few recent collections, could it?

 

[ToniOrtega]

I hope that Marc's aesthetic for Dior would be similar to the Fall 2010 LV collection! Every piece in that collection screamed DIOR to me! I just pray that he'll make ELEGANT clothes in Dior, not sexed up fantasies!

 

[elle_gb]

It'd be great if Marc really takes place at Dior it must really interesting but anyway I couldn't imagine LV without Marc they're like a perfect combination.

 

[Nochoporenka]

I'm sorry but I really hope MJ does not do DIOR. I hated LV for a long time, and just recently thought finally, finalllyyyy MJ is acutally doing LV not Marc Jacobs Label meets Louis Vuitton. Bah

 

[Melancholybaby]

While Marc has done wonders for LV I think,as some posters have already mentioned,that Dior needs a designer with a more focused vision who doesn't jump from one inspiration to the other.Anyway,I suppose that the new designer will make his debut with the Spring 2012 Haute Couture collection,exactly 15 years from Galliano's debut at Dior and I'm anxious to see what he does with the brand.

 

[Ives927]

PRADA has a CLEAR CUT AESTHETIC? excuse me, i almost gouged my eyes out at the sheer ludicrousness of this statement. they made shapeless clothes smothered in paillettes this season, and had bosom enhancing dresses the season before that. this OBVIOUSLY does not count as "clear cut aesthetic" does it? or do i need to update my dictionary? going back to topic, i can only clutch my rosary beads and pray marc does not eff Dior couture up.

But they do. A Prada collections are easily recognizable. Muccia has a specific look for both Miu Miu and Prada. No matter what the inspiration of the collection may be, the DNA of the label remains firmly intact, even if the silhouettes change. Prada is never conventional and Muccia's collections are always an acquired taste. It can be quirky, feminine, contradictory, and down right ugly. That, itself, is their aesthetic. I suppose that just isn't clear cut enough for you to identify. As I said before, no identity is threaded through each collections to make Vuitton a coherent fashion house. Even if Prada collections are very different from one and another, they still retain the same vision and aesthetic.