Who Will Succeed John Galliano At Dior? #2 *Update Raf Simons Offically Hired*

[nastassia]

Yes, I thought about that but I wasn't sure (not totally familiar with his work)

 

[maxlinden]

are you guys really suggesting Alessandra Fachinetti? No.
I want someone young and fresh and totally out f left fields
An American perhaps or and newcomer from London
Although John will be missed(aside from his personal affiliations) I want to see someone new arise from this opportunity

 

[maxlinden]

are you guys really suggesting Alessandra Fachinetti? No.
I want someone young and fresh and totally out f left fields
An American perhaps or and newcomer from London
Although John will be missed(aside from his personal affiliations) I want to see someone new arise from this opportunity

 

[maxlinden]

Julien Macdonald? He has the right attitude but I dunno...

yea I love him but he didn't fare to well at Givenchy so I doubt he'd take over Dior

 

[chloehandbags]

^ Dior might be much more up his, rather glamourous, alley, though?

 

[maxlinden]

True^ I mean I actually loved his clothes for Givenchy, the dresses from his first season were amazing, and then his second collection was soo lux and fabulous....He's much more established now he doesn't need to take this job

 

[chloehandbags]

^ Yes, true.

Wonder if he would, though, if it was offered?

 

[littlepaperstars]

Theyskens, as so many have said, seems like an obvious choice and I think he'd do great things. I'd love Erdem to do it though, just because I want to see him do couture.

 

[maxlinden]

^ Yes, true.

Wonder if he would, though, if it was offered?

I wonder how he would pay homage to the House, the signature Dior jacket studded with Swarovski Crystals or done in full disco sequins..no I think he could take it very serious and Dior would definitely be different, which we can use because I was falling a sleep on John

 

[Squizree]

To be honest I think Julien is the perfect guy.

 

[LeBonChic]

At the moment no one is perfectly suitable but I think with time the most suitable in LVMH's range of choice will ripe and bring sth both traditional and fresh. I think what partially forced LVMH to take such quick move is that Natalie Portman - the Jewish "important" woman with her new Oscar - is representing for the house. If Natalie felt offended when they kept John, she would probably make a fuss about it and drag away quite much of Dior's customer base.

I dont want my dark side to talk but do you think LVMH set all this up ?

 

[tessa484]

Honestly? Galliano.

Assuming he has issues with alchohol, they should get him dried out and then give him a second chance.

Obviously, what he said was absolutely awful, but people can often say very stupid things, they don't mean at all, when drunk.

All this; 'People say what they really think, when drunk.', is a load of hogwash, IMHO.

In my experience, they generally talk utter rubbish (especially when goaded, as I'm fairly sure he was) and can often be, genuinely, horrified by what you tell them they've said, once they've sobered up.

A drunk person should not be judged in the same way, at all, as a sober person should be.

Otherwise, Tom Ford - he adapted to YSL very well (OK, so YSL didn't agree, but YSL was what most creative geniuses are; a control freak!), so why not Dior(?) - Gaultier, or Theyskens.

The Rodarte sisters would be a disaster, IMHO - as would Gareth Pugh (obviously) and (to a far lesser extent - a fizzle, rather than a bang) Proenza Schouler.

Lacroix (if available?) I'm neutral about. I don't think he's quite right for the house (a bit too idiosynchratic and folksy?), but I think he is (or was, anyway) talented, imaginative and experienced enough to be able to adapt. However, I doubt he'd want the gig?

I think Jacobs is probably fine where he is? As are Tisci and Elbaz.

If I've left anyone out, I almost certainly don't think they're very suitable, either!

Being drunk is no excuse for stupid behaviour! He knew very well what he was saying... it's a shame

I'd love to see Lacroix take over the reigns!

 

[chloehandbags]

At the moment no one is perfectly suitable but I think with time the most suitable in LVMH's range of choice will ripe and bring sth both traditional and fresh. I think what partially forced LVMH to take such quick move is that Natalie Portman - the Jewish "important" woman with her new Oscar - is representing for the house. If Natalie felt offended when they kept John, she would probably make a fuss about it and drag away quite much of Dior's customer base.

I dont want my dark side to talk but do you think LVMH set all this up ?​

I do tend to wonder?
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The whole thing did seem very staged - whether by them, or someone else.

There again, I don't like most of what I've heard about their business practices, so I may just be a bit biased against them?

 

[chloehandbags]

Being drunk is no excuse for stupid behaviour!

Maybe not an excuse, but a reason.

I simply don't agree that his logical mind 'knew very well what he was saying'.

I'm in no way excusing what he said, at all - if that had been said by a sober man, it would have been utterly inexcusable.

I just feel that, if one really doesn't know what one is saying, one shouldn't be treated in the same way as if one does.

You must have heard people, who have had a few too many, saying utterly stupid things they would never normally say, surely?

Often, drunk people will, sort of, role-play, too.

 

[tricotineacetat]

His past gig at Givenchy proved a bad fit between Julien MacDonald and LVMH, so it's highly questionable why Bernard Arnaud would want to hire a designer that already didn't work well for another one of his fashion houses.

Talking of Givenchy, I doubt it would be LVMH's interest to jeopardize Givenchy's growing success in favor of promoting Tisci as the new head of womenswear at Dior - It's unthinkable also since he already is global artistic director for all fashion lines at Givenchy, they would need to dismiss Kris van Assche and hand him the entire artistic responsibility for the house or else it would make this change of employee a step down for Tisci, no matter how well-established Dior is.

So yes, unless they want to re-vamp the house in it's entirety, it would make sense to appoint a designer that would be happy with the womenswear job alone. It's common habit that houses like Chanel, Dior etc. have other designers for their leather goods ranges, so it's really all about the artistic input.

Jason Wu, Rodarte, Alexis Mabille or Giambattista Valli would all make sense to me in this regard.

 

[nastassia]

Talking of Givenchy, I doubt it would be LVMH's interest to jeopardize Givenchy's growing success in favor of promoting Tisci as the new head of womenswear at Dior - It's unthinkable also since he already is global artistic director for all fashion lines at Givenchy, they would need to dismiss Kris van Assche and hand him the entire artistic responsibility for the house or else it would make this change of employee a step down for Tisci, no matter how well-established Dior is.

Totally agree with that...


Mabille would be great for Couture... but maybe less for the commercial aspect of Dior (handbags and everything) (?)

 

[chloehandbags]

^^ Honestly, though, apart from Gareth Pugh, Rodarte is about as far from the established Dior aesthetic as I can imagine practically any design house being?

I know a lot of people on here really like them, but I presume the way LVMH are (rightly) going to be thinking about this, is in terms of maintaining (and ideally, also, enlivening) the Dior brand image; not as a way of doubling the number of Rodarte collections per season.

 

[elle_gb]

Poor Galliano, i can't imagine Dior without him right now. Awww I feel bad for him.

 

[StoneSkipper]

What about Tommaso Aquilano and Roberto Rimondi? Maybe even Stuart Vevers?

 

[rouge_red]

Oh please, if you know that you become horrible when you get drunk you simply don't drink. No way someone can be excused because "he wasn't thinking straight". He's a grown man, and saying something like that isn't a mistake, it's simply a reason to be kicked out.
And there is no excuse for something like he said. Also, he isn't split between the person or the designer - seriously, the person is the designer, and he has to be held accountable for what he said (if he did so, of course).

As for the future of Dior, I see some really great, young faces who might be ready to design for a great house, I'm pretty excited to see who they'll choose.