i think galliano has lost his mind...the clothing is soooo out there that there is no real use for it! I understand the world of couture is to create clothing with an astronamical statement. but really this is clown clothes and looks like a college collection. I have always loved Dior and its couture collections but i think its getting a bit out of hand with this collection.
Christian Dior Haute Couture F/W 2006.07 Paris
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gross show!
i like it but..
i really like his collections in dior or any other
especially his dior haute coutour..
cuz i like his creativeness very much
but,, are they really wearable? and can people really WANT to wear them?
i just wanna ask you guys...do you really really if you buy dresses, would you really buy DOIR HAUTE COUTOUR's collection rrather than any other designer's??????
and i really think galliano just made DIOR so different from its real image that christian dior had made...
im a little bit negative about it....because it had that "DIOR-LOOK" in the past, and now there's none..
we just cannot see any more chritian's real "LOOK",,,that elegant, noble, creative, but SIMPLE,,, am i right???
i really like his collections in dior or any other
especially his dior haute coutour..
cuz i like his creativeness very much
but,, are they really wearable? and can people really WANT to wear them?
i just wanna ask you guys...do you really really if you buy dresses, would you really buy DOIR HAUTE COUTOUR's collection rrather than any other designer's??????
and i really think galliano just made DIOR so different from its real image that christian dior had made...
im a little bit negative about it....because it had that "DIOR-LOOK" in the past, and now there's none..
we just cannot see any more chritian's real "LOOK",,,that elegant, noble, creative, but SIMPLE,,, am i right???
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some of the dresses are gorgeous!
hantaek said:i really like his collections in dior or any other
especially his dior haute coutour..
cuz i like his creativeness very much
but,, are they really wearable? and can people really WANT to wear them?
i just wanna ask you guys...do you really really if you buy dresses, would you really buy DOIR HAUTE COUTOUR's collection rrather than any other designer's??????
and i really think galliano just made DIOR so different from its real image that christian dior had made...
im a little bit negative about it....because it had that "DIOR-LOOK" in the past, and now there's none..
we just cannot see any more chritian's real "LOOK",,,that elegant, noble, creative, but SIMPLE,,, am i right???
Oh they were already on the extravaganza look before Galliano. Just check out their 70s ads. You'll find an assortment of those ads here: http://www.thefashionspot.com/forums/f79/dior-ads-past-present-44641.html
I think people will buy from it. I mean the point of haute couture is that it is made to your specifications. I mean Melania Trumps wedding dress didn't come straight off the runway, she made the dress a little smaller, took the wings off the bust..etc. People, remember that it's haute couture and when people buy it they will make changes, so more than likely, we're not going to see anyone in a half armor dress, but we will see people in these clothes made to look wearable at whatever function they are attending..
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^exactly
it's more of a show that's why the proportions and such details were exagerrated. galliano loves those. but honestly, if it weren't for the theme and the location this collection, with its extravagance and drama, falls flat and would be classified with all of his other shows that had a similar presentation. dior cruise is so much better than this.
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I understand what you mean Yimi- but I still like Givenchy's Couture better.
To my mind, Couture is not about showing wearable peices, but instead, about showing concepts, cuts, materials, and experimenting with new techniques of dressmaking.
Diors shows do this to an extent, but i think that the theatrics, the over the top showmanship, prevent one from really seeing the techniques, the cuts, and the clothing itself.
I liked the simplicity of Ticics (SP?) Show because it allowed one to more clearly see the amazing details, the inventive techniques and the like
To my mind, Couture is not about showing wearable peices, but instead, about showing concepts, cuts, materials, and experimenting with new techniques of dressmaking.
Diors shows do this to an extent, but i think that the theatrics, the over the top showmanship, prevent one from really seeing the techniques, the cuts, and the clothing itself.
I liked the simplicity of Ticics (SP?) Show because it allowed one to more clearly see the amazing details, the inventive techniques and the like
^ i completely agree. to quote Scott (who took the words exactly from my mouth) from the givenchy thread, also responding to yimi, "I hate to sound rude but honestly,you seem to have a very disillusioned idea of what having a spirit or soul is. This is Riccardo. Obviously you never seen Tisci's work before Givenchy but this is very much who he is and always has been thus far. You equate Galliano with having a spirit but I hate to burst your bubble but his work is nothing more than gimmicks and shocking people....that's not having a spirit." dior couture is more of a show. i really don't like the condescending way he (yimi) responds when it comes to dior but i have enough respect for his opinion.
I remember the yellow roses on your room, mom...
I think
In Paris are a lot of old-ladies
who work hard with their little hands
to make so exquisite stuff
so
why dont you just
enjoy the work
because try to find a exaxt point to explain
is a loss-time...
But Sincerelly I tried to find something beutiful in
Givenchy
and it is so ugly, so shady,
If funeral sense likes somebody
I am happy with the different class of tastes!!!!
so I am happy there are people Who likes Givenchy I
Was thinking all Paris were hating Riccardo
In Paris are a lot of old-ladies
who work hard with their little hands
to make so exquisite stuff
so
why dont you just
enjoy the work
because try to find a exaxt point to explain
is a loss-time...
But Sincerelly I tried to find something beutiful in
Givenchy
and it is so ugly, so shady,
If funeral sense likes somebody
I am happy with the different class of tastes!!!!
so I am happy there are people Who likes Givenchy I
Was thinking all Paris were hating Riccardo
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i agree with you stiletto girl-
this is fabulous dont get me wrong, its so very decadent. but for some reason I sense so much more of a thought process in givenchy, beautiful, carefully crafted clothes as opposed to this- which to me just looks like a lot of beadwork. its a great to admire, but when it comes down to it, i feel its just a novelty.
this is fabulous dont get me wrong, its so very decadent. but for some reason I sense so much more of a thought process in givenchy, beautiful, carefully crafted clothes as opposed to this- which to me just looks like a lot of beadwork. its a great to admire, but when it comes down to it, i feel its just a novelty.
^ I completely disagree. To me, Galliano is a rare breed of artist. This may seem like a mess of beads, drapes and armor, but to listen to John speak of his inspirations, it's just facinating. He puts so much thought into the concept behind the clothes, he'd have to, to be able to link Joan of Arc to Salvadore Dali and Schiaparelli.
I dunno, to me this is so similar to Galliano's original couture outings in that these garments are completely theatric, but easily wearable. No, it doesn't have the tortured articism of Tisci's work, but there is a soul there. It's a shame that so many people find it so hard to look past the logoed bags and dramatic presentations that Galliano has become associated with, but the art is there, it just takes on a different form then stuff at Givenchy.
I dunno, to me this is so similar to Galliano's original couture outings in that these garments are completely theatric, but easily wearable. No, it doesn't have the tortured articism of Tisci's work, but there is a soul there. It's a shame that so many people find it so hard to look past the logoed bags and dramatic presentations that Galliano has become associated with, but the art is there, it just takes on a different form then stuff at Givenchy.
^ By anyone who dresses outside the box. Are they for everyone? No, but they're only dresses with detatchable armor, far less outrageous than most of his recent couture collections have been. Like I said, I think a lot of people get put off by the extreme nature of the entire look, but worn with simple hair and makeup, a strategically placed armor plate here and there and subtler beading, they're basically a bunch of interesting gowns fit for any formal affair.
Those glazed taffeta gowns at the end don't even really need any alterations, just take off the helmets and you have big, metallic ball gowns. Same with the colored suits (though I would certainly use less embroidery, just because up close those are so very embellished) and the last two dresses in the first segment.
I would love to see Charlize Theron in the first black embroidered gown with a shrunken down armor sleeve, she could absolutely pull it off.
It's unfortunate that most couture clients would probably scale these down a lot to wear them, except maybe for the pastel draped gowns toward the end.
Those glazed taffeta gowns at the end don't even really need any alterations, just take off the helmets and you have big, metallic ball gowns. Same with the colored suits (though I would certainly use less embroidery, just because up close those are so very embellished) and the last two dresses in the first segment.
I would love to see Charlize Theron in the first black embroidered gown with a shrunken down armor sleeve, she could absolutely pull it off.
It's unfortunate that most couture clients would probably scale these down a lot to wear them, except maybe for the pastel draped gowns toward the end.
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Spike413 said:
Why is it unfortunate?
those were the only ones I found readaly wearable, & without the armour.
As much as I love beautiful clothes, for the most part, I want to look situationally appropriate, and relatively normal.
I want to look good in a way that can be appreciated not only by fashionistas, but the average person on the street as well. I interact with a wide variety of people, and as much as I love fashion, I don't want to alienate anyone by my clothing choices.
I'm sure most couture clients feel much the same way. Possibly more so than I, because if they have that much money, they are most likely in the public eye, and subject to intense scrutiny from not only fashionistas, and other wealthy elite, but also from the general public.
It is a fine line to stay fashionable; without alienating, confusing, or drawing the critisicm of the plebians who make up the majority of our society.
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