Model Behavior (PLEASE READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING)

[Deleted member 130879]

Could be going better for him since I have no clue who he is nor have I ever heard of him.

 

[Zposen]

So rumor has it Chandler Parsons (basketball player) left Toni for Hailey Baldwin. Seems to be true after all, Toni unfollowed him and liked a pic on insta that was posted by an account that was spreading the rumor in the first place. Hailey posted 'partner watches' with what seems to be Chandler on her snap and a Halloween pic that is supposed to be him under the mask.

He's such a fame wh*re and I feel very sorry for Toni, she seemed genuinely in love and wanted to move in with him in Memphis.

That is some TEA. Chandler dated Kendall Jenner sometime ago... wonder how she feels about her BFF dating her ex?

 

[zacatecas570]

^Aren't they used to that? Kendall also dated Harry Styles who was dating Cara Delevingne and Taylor Swift.

 

[Zposen]

^Aren't they used to that? Kendall also dated Harry Styles who was dating Cara Delevingne and Taylor Swift.

Harry Styles dating any girl is suspect to me... I don't buy much into those rumors

Kendall and Chandler did have a thing though. Her mother link them together and she used to go to all his LA games. Its kind weird Hailey is now dating him...

 

[Littleathquakes]

Could be going better for him since I have no clue who he is nor have I ever heard of him.

Same. it's a win for him.

 

[dsamg]

Harry Styles dating any girl is suspect to me... I don't buy much into those rumors

Kendall and Chandler did have a thing though. Her mother link them together and she used to go to all his LA games. Its kind weird Hailey is now dating him...

It isn't really weird. Only if you assume that these relationships are based on feelings and attraction, which they really are not. They are based on who can do what for who and when. They are all a big group of shallow girls who need an article every week linking them to a new hot guy.

 

[fashionista-ta]

^ You may be even more cynical than any of them are

 

[Runabout]

^Aren't they used to that? Kendall also dated Harry Styles who was dating Cara Delevingne and Taylor Swift.

And Paige Reiffler as well

But yeah, basically Harry Styles dated models and T-Swift

 

[dsamg]

^ You may be even more cynical than any of them are

Hahah I know, I must be grumpy this week

 

[Benn98]

From my limited experience with Uber, I normally found their drivers incredibly chatty and cheerful, I imagine this is a directive from management?. That extends to both guys and girls. Even though I'm no fan of it, I normally just play along with the little charade. Not saying Lindsey is lying, but it could be that the was just being friendly, saw her expression (and I can already imagine what that looked like, ), and made it clear it wasn't a pick-up play.

 

[Marc10]

But you're a guy Ben, you should know it's a different situation with women. I've heard from so many of them some really unsettling stories about sleazy Uber/taxi drivers that are borderline herrasement, and they always do this when the woman is alone and feels venerable. Not sure what exactly happened with Lindsey but I'm glad she spoke up, at least with Uber you can rate and report them to the company. These guys need to know they're there to do a job, not pick up girls.

 

[MulletProof]

Sorry Ben but yes, your male experience is in general (not just in Uber) an extra privileged, happier one. Just walking next to a man on the street, the wildest thing I'm in for are these cheerful and chatty encounters.

I don't know how harassment is in other places, but the one I've experienced in big cities in the US is insane, it is every.single.day, seriously not a day goes by where I don't have someone making "small talk" in a way that if someone else (a man preferably) would be able to overhear, they'd be like "what on earth...".. and you handle it the safest way you can until you're away and safe, sometimes you're angry, or creeped out, or grossed out but ultimately have things to do and don't even want to think about it.

A lot of times, it is also the kind of thing that feels so threatening but when you share it, it sounds like it's all in your head. I had this mega creep as a driver and I got him twice! (I would've cancelled the second time but didn't recognise him until I was already in).. he turned off the GPS and straight up said "I still remember your address so well...".. add to that him adjusting his mirror so he would see me and breathing in this gross/sexual way. You report to Uber "this person is inappropriate", but what does inappropriate even mean and what am I going to say? "oh I didn't like the way he was breathing"?

Finally.. Uber is awful. This is the same company that when a woman was raped, argued that she had a ride history at strange hours and pick-up locations. When something life-threatening happens while riding Uber, first thing they will do is contact you and offer you a settlement of $100.00 for confidentiality, where you explicitly agree to never share it on social media (my true story!).. so yeah, Uber is not just skittles, free water, and a happy driver that lets you play your own music.

 

[eizhowa]

My sister won't get into even a cab/uber without taking a picture of the registration plate and sending it to a relative first, so I definitely support what Marc10 and Mulletproof are saying.

 

[MyNameIs]

What a shameful move by Lindsay. A few vague histrionic statements about someone not in a public eye and who has no way of defending himself is lower than low.

 

[Littleathquakes]

She might have opened herself up for a libel civil suit. pretty dumb move if you ask me.

 

[sore]

What a shameful move by Lindsay. A few vague histrionic statements about someone not in a public eye and who has no way of defending himself is lower than low.

but what if she had no way of defending herself while riding the Uber? Is it still a 'shameful' move?

I agree with everyone who pointed out the difference in male/female experiences, and actually it makes me very angry that I still have to explain this to my well-educated, smart male friends on an almost daily basis.

I had a conversation about this with a friend of mine recently, he's a journalist at one of the most important newspapers here, so you would think he'd know a bit better. He asked me if I had ever experienced sexual harassment and I said yes, like twice a week. He asked me to give him the two most recent examples, so I told him about this guy following me on my way home ('I just want to talk to you') until I had to call the police. My friend was like: But he didn't touch you? I'm like: No, but don't you think it's creepy enough already? He's like: Yeah, sure, but I mean, it's basically that somebody wanted to talk to you you didn't want to talk to. I mean, that happens to men to, like, when beggars want your money for example.

Yeah. Right.

(I just wanted to give an example of how painfully different male and female experiences can be, I'm in no way implying that what you said was similarly dumb, Ben!)

 

[dauphine]

It's not lower than low at all, men need to know this is not 'okay' to do to a woman. Men need to hear about this.

 

[Littleathquakes]

but what if she had no way of defending herself while riding the Uber? Is it still a 'shameful' move?

Let's not go down the "what if's" road. we only heard her side of the story, and she has a giant megaphone while he does not. are we not innocent until proven guilty? That's the point MyNameIs was making. It's not about whether this happened or not or what her experience was. if she really felt that violated, she should address it with Uber. you are given a survey on the driver when you ride a Uber car. Instead she took to social media and you can see the mob mentality in those comments. she posted his pic as if to say "that's him! get him!"

 

[dauphine]

I am just going to leave this hear since it is relevant to this topic (trigger warning, assault

http://jezebel.com/uber-settles-sexual-assault-lawsuit-1788588403

Women have a right to feel save on a cab ride home. Women have a right to not get hit on when they hire a professional driver to get them from point A to point B. It's really not professional to try to flirt, harass, or coerce a rider in to talking to you. Men don't need to share their opinions about women with them but they do it all the time because it doesn't bother them to do it. Even my boyfriend can't wrap his head around it happening to me, because it's 'so unprofessional' but I assure you men, it happens and it's a real actual problem. Sometimes the only way women can speak out about it is share it online, because Uber won't do **** about it unless they are really pressed to.

 

[Benn98]

I think when it comes to these things, I wouldn't say I'm completely with blinders. December in any major UK city is an absolute nightmare, not because of the revellers, but due to the amount of slimy creeps out in full force. But the credulous part of me believed that men simply wouldn't dare to be that brazen (and foolish!) to pursue some girl in an Uber. It's just so risky, purely because of the recourse and steps she could take. But then I think of what Mulletproof and Sore said (how do you define or prove 'inappropriateness'), well, then I imagine it makes sense guys are so ballsy. They probably know it'd be hard to prove. On the other hand these situations in general does make it extremely dangerous for guys like myself, who often strike up random conversation with strangers while having zero ulterior motives or agendas. I just hope women are able to distinguish between harrassment and general courtesy.