Model Behavior (PLEASE READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING)

[KateTheGreatest]

^I agree and if she gets all these bookings, then why even care what others say?

There's yet another article about Abbey Lee and her opinions on fashion industry and that Alber Elbaz incident (why doesn't she just let that one go already)?

http://www.harpersbazaar.co.uk/fash...abbey-lee-kershaw-says-modelling-isnt-humane/

 

[Scotty]

Hari Nef should sit down. Who even claimed that she was too short or soft? I don't see that on her thread. (Edit: ok i do see the short part now after re-reading but that was just one person. )

I'm surprised she didn't use the "The fashion people don't accept my looks because i'm transgender" card in her tweet. She used to do that a lot on tumblr.. before she was famous of course.

 

[Cute]

There's yet another article about Abbey Lee and her opinions on fashion industry and that Alber Elbaz incident (why doesn't she just let that one go already)?

http://www.harpersbazaar.co.uk/fash...abbey-lee-kershaw-says-modelling-isnt-humane/

That the heck? Each time this is brought up, Abbey says the same thing..?
Are these media outlets just republishing this story over and over again or is she actually talking about this over and over again?

 

[fashionista-ta]

Just because you don't like certain girls (and admit it) that doesn't make you any less of a feminist. I'm a feminist but I don't like every single person, let alone girl, I meet.

Plus I highly doubt saying things like certain people are only here because of their parents/siblings and are getting work because of that makes you any less of a feminist. Come on now

You don't always have to say everything you're thinking though

On the one hand I think it's quite true that women shouldn't tear each other down. On the other hand, I know some women who go out of their way to make life difficult for others, and gossip is the natural mechanism for reining in those who are behaving badly. (Of course, it's not always deployed within those bounds.)

 

[GeneticallyChill]

Gigi Hadid making fun of east Asians https://www.buzzfeed.com/michellerennex/honestly-girl-pls?utm_term=.algx87Pnjp#.fx77DO5RZJ

 

[dsamg]

Getting more publicity
http://www.allure.com/story/gigi-hadid-racist-video-mocking-asian-people?mbid=social_facebook

 

[kokobombon]

Can Gigi be insensitive but not racist? I mean, she was making fun but does she think she's superior or that asians are inferior? I dont think that being an ******* equals being racist.

 

[GeneticallyChill]

Can Gigi be insensitive but not racist? I mean, she was making fun but does she think she's superior or that asians are inferior? I dont think that being an ******* equals being racist.

Making fun of someone (in a rude manner) makes you an *******. Making fun of someone based off of their racial characteristics makes you a racist.

 

[billiejbob]

Making fun of someone (in a rude manner) makes you an *******. Making fun of someone based off of their racial characteristics makes you a racist.

Actually the traditional term racism is to do with insinuating that your race is superior to other races. For example, back in the day Europeans were incredibly racist to a lot of non-European races in various countries they'd colonise due to Europeans, mainly Anglo-Europeans, seeing those other races as sub-human or inferior. Similarly, white Americans were incredibly racist to African Americans because they believed that African Americans were inferior eg segregation and slavery.

What Gigi is doing is insensitive but not racist unless she outright said or clearly insinuated that white people are superior to Asian people or other non-white peoples.

People use the term 'racism' way too loosely nowadays without realising the historical and linguistic meaning behind it.

 

[eizhowa]

I even think calling it "insensitive" is pushing it. Someone gave her a chocolate (?) face with a stereotypical "asian" expression and she made the same face. It is human to emulate facial expressions.

Is it insensitive because asians take great offence by these stereotypical figures (like the one Gigi recieved)? I would find it just as insensitve to assume asians are that easily offended or bothered by stuff like this.

I make fun of other nationalities daily (like the americans, the british and especially the danish), but there is no malice in it and as far as I know, no one minds or are offended by it.

 

[GeneticallyChill]

Actually the traditional term racism is to do with insinuating that your race is superior to other races. For example, back in the day Europeans were incredibly racist to a lot of non-European races in various countries they'd colonise due to Europeans, mainly Anglo-Europeans, seeing those other races as sub-human or inferior. Similarly, white Americans were incredibly racist to African Americans because they believed that African Americans were inferior eg segregation and slavery.

What Gigi is doing is insensitive but not racist unless she outright said or clearly insinuated that white people are superior to Asian people or other non-white peoples.

People use the term 'racism' way too loosely nowadays without realising the historical and linguistic meaning behind it.

She doesn't have to outright say she believes that they're a inferior race, the fact the she thinks it's ok to make fun of them or to use their features as joke implies that. Also, it's possible to be both insensitive and racist at the same time.

 

[GeneticallyChill]

I even think calling it "insensitive" is pushing it. Someone gave her a chocolate (?) face with a stereotypical "asian" expression and she made the same face. It is human to emulate facial expressions.

Is it insensitive because asians take great offence by these stereotypical figures (like the one Gigi recieved)? I would find it just as insensitve to assume asians are that easily offended or bothered by stuff like this.

I make fun of other nationalities daily (like the americans, the british and especially the danish), but there is no malice in it and as far as I know, no one minds or are offended by it.

It's insensitive and racist because Asians in the US have reported being made fun of because of they're eyes or other physical characteristics. There doesn't have to malice or any other intent on the perpetrator, it's still insensitive/racist.

 

[eizhowa]

She doesn't have to outright say she believes that they're a inferior race, the fact the she thinks it's ok to make fun of them or to use their features as joke implies that. Also, it's possible to be both insensitive and racist at the same time.

How does it imply that? There is absolutely no logical link between making fun of someone for their looks and believing yourself superior to that person.

 

[Benn98]

I make fun of other nationalities daily (like the americans, the british and especially the danish), but there is no malice in it and as far as I know, no one minds or are offended by it.

Oh yes? And what are you saying about the British, eh???? Also, I think you'll find that your demi-godess, Kate Moss, is also British! So, watch it

On a serious note, I think everyone can agree that there was no malice intended. It happened so quickly anyway.

 

[eizhowa]

Oh yes? And what are you saying about the British, eh???? Also, I think you'll find that your demi-godess, Kate Moss, is also British! So, watch it

On a serious note, I think everyone can agree that there was no malice intended. It happened so quickly anyway.

Silly human... Everyone knows that Kate is not of this world

But really, what is so wonderful about Brits is that they so readily mocks themselves

 

[fashionista-ta]

How does it imply that? There is absolutely no logical link between making fun of someone for their looks and believing yourself superior to that person.

I would say there is ... if you think you have the right to make fun of someone else, that implies a belief in your superiority to that person.

I'm not completely sure she was making fun of anyone though.

 

[eizhowa]

I would say there is ... if you think you have the right to make fun of someone else, that implies a belief in your superiority to that person.

I'm not completely sure she was making fun of anyone though.

Not if you think they have a right to make fun of you as well. Then you are on equal footing.

 

[TREVOFASHIONISTO]

I make fun of other nationalities daily (like the americans, the british and especially the danish), but there is no malice in it and as far as I know, no one minds or are offended by it.

Well American, British, and Danish can all have people who are asian in them as they are not a race but a region where people live. So I dont think it is the same as making fun of an Asian person's eyes.

 

[eizhowa]

Well American, British, and Danish can all have people who are asian in them as they are not a race but a region where people live. So I dont think it is the same as making fun of an Asian person's eyes.

I understand that mocking danish people for talking funny is not racist, but it could be considered "insensitive" if the danes actually cared in any way shape or form.

It seems to me that when the person you are making fun is a different race, there is some sort or presumption of the joke being racist.

Will pointing out physical differences in a joking manner always be racist? I understand that race is the reason we can make the joke (otherwise there would be no visual difference to remark upon), but doesn't racism need some for of malice or feeling of superiority?

 

[billiejbob]

I understand that mocking danish people for talking funny is not racist, but it could be considered "insensitive" if the danes actually cared in any way shape or form.

It seems to me that when the person you are making fun is a different race, there is some sort or presumption of the joke being racist.

Will pointing out physical differences in a joking manner always be racist? I understand that race is the reason we can make the joke (otherwise there would be no visual difference to remark upon), but doesn't racism need some for of malice or feeling of superiority?

You're spot on. Racism needs a sense of malice or feeling of superiority of one's own race over another. Gigi's actions were neither malicious nor presenting a sense of superiority.

It really baffles me how this has been blown out of proportion.
Sure, in today's day and age people jump to conclusions and construe things without proper thought, but looking at racism in the traditional sense, what she did was definitely not racist. Unintentionally insensitive and possibly immature...but not racist.