Model Behavior (PLEASE READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING)

[ThatDudeOverTher]

I'm not one of those who always resent rich people, but don't even try to defend her because whichever way you go swing it it'll just sound condescending to those who actually had to save up for sneakers.

It's not condescending if that is the actual case. I know one guy with whom I went to school and who came from a very wealthy family (dad headed a major network and mom is a hotelier) and he wasn't at all spoilt. In fact, I remember instances when us kids would leave school to go out to eat and he couldn't even pay for his, because his "allowance" wouldn't allow it and he had been given prepared meals from home. He also wasn't able to sport whatever the newest, latest, shoe craze was because his parents wouldn't buy them for him and he would in fact, have to save his allowance if he wanted them. Is it condescending for him to recall that experience and say he had to save to buy his shoes?

 

[xoxoadore]

umm ok come one even if they did have to save up they sitll dont know struggled because they don't know what true needs are, they saved up their "allowences"? ok so no hard labor right? no studying hours a week + 40 hours jobs just to eat like the rest of us, come on i take no pitty

 

[eizhowa]

umm ok come one even if they did have to save up they sitll dont know struggled because they don't know what true needs are, they saved up their "allowences"? ok so no hard labor right? no studying hours a week + 40 hours jobs just to eat like the rest of us, come on i take no pitty

Saving up your allowances is still saving up.

But if Bella said she struggled to save up the money then she is on her own. I still refuse to watch a clip of her talking.

ThatDudeOverTher, teenagers in my country are constantly trying to act "gangsta" or whatever they call it. It is absolutely ridiculous, because all their parents have benefitted from the oil boom so none of them grew up in an even remotely dodgy neighbourhood

 

[fashionista-ta]

While this is truly hilarious, I think many of you would be surprised by how many of those rich, white Hollywood (and elsewhere) kids actually speak this way.

I also know a few super-rich, born into multimillionaire families, kids who also had to save up to buy the things they wanted. Yet, they flew private, attended insanely expensive schools, and lived in mega mansions. Not all rich parents actually throw cash at their kids

True, allowances are pretty standard. Mine, however, involved coins only, no paper, checks, or direct deposit

 

[tigerrouge]

I don't really know what WOULD be an appropriate way for anyone to talk about overpriced trainers, but I belong to a distant era where people didn't expect models to have an opinion on everything.

 

[mathiaskatz]

Cameron Russell is posting stories of various models that have been abused by people in power like Harvey Weinstein on her instagram.

Hearing about #harveyweinstein this week has sparked conversations about how widespread and how familiar his behavior is.
We talked about how hard it is to share stories of assault. When they are the norm, calling them out can feel disruptive and unprofessional. On many occasions I've been called a feminist for reporting unwanted groping, spanking, pinching, pressure for dates, phone calls and texts of a sexual nature, lack of appropriate changing areas, etc. And because the response has always been "are you surprised?" or "that's part of the job" I tolerated them. When the offenses were bigger, calling them out is terrifying, and demands a level of exposure and backlash to what is already painful and sometimes shameful.
#MyJobShouldNotIncludeAbuse

A whole bunch more on her instagram.

 

[Valentine27]

^This is crazy. That's a LOT of stories. Shocking and disgusting! Hope their names will be revealed anytime soon.

 

[TREVOFASHIONISTO]

i dont understand why people dont just collectively get together and expose these people? I get the new girls may be in fear but the models at the top dont have anything to lose. If Harvey can be fired, then so can these people...

 

[MulletProof]

^ because in order to get together, people need to synch in energy, strength, morals-over-interests balance. This is like exposing a dirty as* boss in any company. Everyone resents, hates, complains, conspires for years and fantasizes about justice day, at least one constantly parades himself as the "I'll be the one to take him down!" person. Try igniting the fire by submitting a complaint and expect to be backed up by that army of critics: "hey, you're so brave and I would love to help but I have 3 kids to support you know..", "sorry, I don't like getting involved in any drama", "I'll help you, just can't sign anything, no", "to tell you the truth, he has never done anything to me", "I don't want this to define my career later". Time after time...

Good luck dismantling anything in the fashion industry... no one in journalism really cares because.. it's fashion, everyone automatically assumes (or knows) it's even dirtier and darker than its reputation.

 

[mathiaskatz]

Cameron also posted this in regards to names being blacked out:

 

[zoom]

Poor Trish Goff was just interviewed by the New York Times recounting being grabbed groped and sexually harassed by the disgusting Harvey Weinstein at a lunch meeting in a private dining room at the Tribeca Grill. I would imagine there are many more models with similar stories considering Weinsteins proximity to the fashion industry. Horrible. Brave of her and proud that she spoke out!

 

[Runabout]

All my respect to Cameron for putting all these up! She's made the right move!

 

[[Piece Of Me]]

Massive respect for Cameron You go girl!! Hopefully she soon finds a way to expose some of these bastards as well, they need to be put in the spotlights and be accountable for their DISGUSTING behaviour.

 

[tapenerd]

Just another reason to love Cameron ❤️

 

[Deleted member 130879]

Cameron shot with Terry Richardson in at least one instance (2009).

I'm sorry but although she claims this will continue legally, I doubt it. She will continue posting these for a few more days and then stop. We are talking about a model with enough power to bring people down, sell the story to the NYT, open up. Instead, she went the Instagram route.

Anna Wintour also came all "Virgin Mary" on the press, saying she is disgusted. Oh come on! Give me a break! The Richardson stories are up for almost a decade now and people did nothing! The boycott lasted what? 6 months?

I can't deal with this amount of hypocrisy. We are talking about actual jail crimes in most of these stories. 16 year old girls being naked, alone, with an adult that went on to touch their genitalia, penetrate them and perform oral sex? That is child abuse, pure and simple. The guy would be jailed no matter the state.

I am so angry right now. At ALL of them. Both abusers and enablers!

 

[tigerrouge]

I get the feeling the only reason why these Harvey W stories are being allowed to see the 'official' light of day is because a more powerful man - or group of men - wants rid of him, so he's lost the protection which permitted him to operate as an abuser for so long. He was deemed expendable.

Meanwhile, other people will continue to abuse the power they have from their position in their industry - and continue to be protected by those above and around them, while those below speak out, but their words go nowhere.

I am sick of the 'good men' who know, but do nothing. The burden and blame continually falls on the women who are on the losing end of the power differential.

 

[happycanadian]

Cameron has posted SO MANY stories on her Instagram. It's really horrifying to think of how common this kind of abuse is in the fashion industry. She's doing a truly great thing providing a safe space for these women (and men) to share their stories.

Nothing will change until names are named and people face consequences. Real ones.

It sickens me that anybody still works with Terry Richardson. Especially people who champion women's rights and are of genuine global influence like Beyonce and Gaga. The hypocrisy is astounding.

 

[Chaky]

I saw Cameron's Instagram feed yesterday and read through many of the posts. The first thing that shocked me is just the number of responses she's had in a very short space of time. That to me indicates just how prevalent this sort of behaviour must be within the fashion industry.

Secondly the ages of the victims. Some of them were as young as 14 or 15.

And lastly many of the accounts indicate that the perpetrators are surrounding by all these enablers who allow this stuff to carry on unchecked or even seem to facilitate it. I saw in the comments one hairstylist apologising for turning a blind eye to many of the things he knew or suspected were happening on some of his shoots.

Cameron Russell is right to speak to lawyers on how best to proceed. But there appears to be a deep sickness in the fashion industry and the only way it will change is if the powerful people within actually want it to.

 

[dodencebt]

CARLA BRUNI CLAIMS THAT SEXUAL HARASSMENT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN FASHION

Carla Bruni made a very controversial - and ill-informed - comment this weekend as she claimed that sexual harassment doesn't happen in the fashion industry. The supermodel and former First Lady of France argued that the climate in Hollywood (which has been exposed thanks to the Harvey Weinstein scandal) is not the same in fashion.

"Of course, you have dreadful people in fashion like everywhere else, but fashion is not so dangerous for young girls," the model told InStyle. "There's a lot of work, there's a lot of travelling, and you need to have a lot of discipline. I would say that it's one of the places in show business that is safe. People don't want to abuse girls - they want to photograph them. It's a healthy environment."

Bruni's comments come just days after model Cameron Russell started sharing horrific stories of sexual harassment and abuse experienced by women in the fashion industry. The model started the hashtag #MyJobShouldNotIncludeAbuse and asked women to direct message her their stories so she could share them with the world.

"That doesn't happen in fashion," Bruni continued. "I never had a photographer or designer do that, never ever. Most agents are protecting girls because they have to work. And there are a lot of women in fashion - women rarely go into that kind of abuse. That keeps it safe for young models. Maybe I'm wrong."

It seems very strange that Bruni - who has been in the industry for decades - would never have heard any stories of abuse when the issue is clearly vert prevalent.

vogue.co.uk

 

[Benn98]

Hhhmmm, another French woman trying to diminish the experience of others. I mean it's one thing to say 'it never happened to me', but something completely different when you make it clear that 'it doesn't happen at all'. Anyway, when last was she in the modelling industry to mouth off like this? Never liked her all that much anyway.