Prada F/W 2007.08 Milan

What a stupid review from Cathy Hornryn. First of all, the materials were so carefully researched, they couldn't possibly be the stuff you have in the bathroom. That's where the luxury lies, painstaking experimentation with mohair, silk and other materials to replace fur. Secondly, these colours are really what's happening now, not the beiges, blacks and greys that fashion editors are comfortable in. If she can't articulate anything intelligent, do some serious interviewing to understand her subject, she really shouldn't blog. It's insulting to fashion journalism.
 
^ I think the review is perfectly fitting! If anything, it's far too nice. Are you kidding me about the coats? They do look exactly like a bathroom rug or toilet seat cover! It's the exact same fabric. If a fashion journalist doesn't lavish praise on a collection that you like, that doesn't mean they're stupid.
 
Zazie said:
First of all, the materials were so carefully researched, they couldn't possibly be the stuff you have in the bathroom.

maybe not, but they still look like the materials found on the floor in the bathroom, and that's the problem. No matter how well intentioned Mrs Prada is in her experimentation, it did not turn out this time.
 
ok i hate those head things, and those "insert your hand" bags.

but the shoes are brilliant and so are the colours
 
Zazie said:
What a stupid review from Cathy Hornryn. First of all, the materials were so carefully researched, they couldn't possibly be the stuff you have in the bathroom. That's where the luxury lies, painstaking experimentation with mohair, silk and other materials to replace fur. Secondly, these colours are really what's happening now, not the beiges, blacks and greys that fashion editors are comfortable in. If she can't articulate anything intelligent, do some serious interviewing to understand her subject, she really shouldn't blog. It's insulting to fashion journalism.

Hear Hear! I completely agree :D . She's trying to sound intelligent and make blatantly obvious jokes about the collection (the bath mat). It IS insulting to fashion journalism. LOL.
 
stilettogirl84 said:
maybe not, but they still look like the materials found on the floor in the bathroom, and that's the problem. No matter how well intentioned Mrs Prada is in her experimentation, it did not turn out this time.

Why are people so intent on comparing the coats to bathmats? So what if they have a similar appearance? Isn't fashion about innovation and change? Personally, I think if worn the right way, the coats could work. They have a quirky appeal.

At least it's different. It would be boring to use the same fabrics over and over again. That is not what Prada is about. Prada is about innovation and trend-setting.
 
there have been times when i've thought cathy is out of her mind, but this isn't one of them. i think she's right on. other reviewers, it seems, are too scared to think anything about prada for their own. they're afraid to criticize it (because it's prada!!!) but they're also afraid to love it too much (b/c it's too daring). cathy descibed the materials and colors perfectly and creatively, while still being appropriately respectful towards the collection. yes, the materials are expensive, but that does not automatically make them wearable or good looking. the luxury lies in the "fascination with banalities". miuccia is redefining what is luxurious with this collection, and ms horyn seems to understand that.
 
kuba01 said:
Why are people so intent on comparing the coats to bathmats? So what if they have a similar appearance? Isn't fashion about innovation and change? Personally, I think if worn the right way, the coats could work. They have a quirky appeal.

At least it's different. It would be boring to use the same fabrics over and over again. That is not what Prada is about. Prada is about innovation and trend-setting.

people compare the two because they have a similar appearance. i know many people use this comparison to criticize the collection, but i don't see it as a bad thing. IMO it adds to the quirkiness, and it is different.
 
Frankly, I haven't seen bathmats that look like these coats, and even if these materials are exactly the same as bathmats, why are you so narrowminded that an industrial material cannot be used for high fashion? There are plenty of plastics on this season's runway, which many have compared to trashbags, but still, it is how it is cut, dyed, worked, and the REAL material itself which will determine the sense of luxury. I have one such shiny black pants from Jil Sander made of silk, but it is "plastic" looking, and just the most flattering pants I ever owned. Denying the "right" to use non-expensive materials is like saying because concrete is a "cheap" material it cannot be used for luxury homes, when in fact, some of the most famous and beautiful villas in the world designed by great modernist architects (look at Tokyo!!!) used concrete and other so-called "cheap" materials in a gorgeous, sublime way. It doesn't always have to be chinchilla, marble and alabaster you know.

Actually, I find this one of the most gorgeous work Prada has ever done, much more than those gem-encrusted giant brooches. I'm going to get myself one of those strange, post-industrial coloured coat/dress. First Prada buy in years, i might add.
 
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Zazie said:
Frankly, I haven't seen bathmats that look like these coats, and even if these materials are exactly the same as bathmats, why are you so narrowminded that an industrial material cannot be used for high fashion? There are plenty of plastics on this season's runway, which many have compared to trashbags, but still, it is how it is cut, dyed, worked, and the REAL material itself which will determine the sense of luxury. It is like saying because concrete is a "cheap" material it cannot be used for luxury homes, when in fact, some of the most famous and beautiful villas in the world designed by great modernist architects (look at Tokyo!!!) used concrete and other so-called "cheap" materials in a gorgeous, sublime way. It doesn't always have to be chinchilla, marble and alabaster you know.

Actually, I find this one of the most gorgeous work Prada has ever done, much more than those gem-encrusted giant brooches. I'm going to get myself one of those strange, post-industrial coloured coat/dress. First Prada buy in years, i might add.

I totally agree with everything you said. Karma! ^_^
 
Cathy Horyn rocks, she's the target Prada audience. As a woman with a serious job and a family to take care of (like Ms. Prada herself), she's having trouble swallowing the funny textures, the color choices--being a lab rat in Prada's experimentation. Ever since she laid out the huge article on Raf Simons, she's been hellbent on wearable womenswear, not women as Russian expats (did anyone read her scathing review of Vera Wang) or, to put it crudely, bath mats. The fact of the matter is, a lot of the tricks in this Prada collection came off as just a sense of humor in the menswear show (there's no way in hell those stir-up suits are going to happen), laid out among lots of wearable stuff. Why is it only good if its experimental? Isn't this a bit of stealing fire, buying into some sense of wit, adventure and intellect that you just simply don't have? Cathy isn't being mean, she's just slightly offended...
 
It's from her BLOG, it's not an official review that was printed.
 
My problem is that, on most days, I don't want to look like a stuffed duck or a bath mat
I officially love Cathy Horyn more than usual.

That's going in my signature...
 
peacelover142002 said:
You don't see it? I must have better eyesight then. :P :lol:

funny...:D
maybe you want to borrow my glasses....

:innocent:....
 
It looks ugly and I love it:-P
Regarding the toilet carper fabric - if you see Signe Chanel - remember what the seamdressers said about one of the fabrics? kind of - I would not even use it to clear my floor. And the other added "maybe your foor would not like it". And it was haute couture:-D
 
Cathryn Horyn is right, whatever you think of Prada, the god honest truth is: Most women DO NOT want to be compared to shag carpets! And I think it's quite insulting to say that thiose of us who are making those comparisons and stupid or uneducated in some way, shape, or form.

I don't care if the coats were spun from God's pubic hairs, they still look like bath mats.
 
I don't like any of this collection. The materials may be 'futuristic' but I just find them ugly. This collection simply won't be as influential as S/S because it just won't translate into wearable pieces.
I just don't understand what this collection was trying to achieve and where it's going. Most Prada collections grow on me overtime, but I have huge doubts that this collection will ever grow on me.
 
It's a very brave move from Prada. Now when everybody is going semi couture, pap delux, super futuristic and Svarovski cristals are all over the place. It is ofcourse a manifestation, bc some nicer stuffs will make Prada profit's instead of these.

I always like the idea of making lux fabric looks dull, here covering them with foam, so that the preciousness is ostenciously "hiden" under a "cover". Very well done.

I can't believe I am defending Prada:-))
 
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