Model Behavior (PLEASE READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING)

[Ivancica]

Poor Karlie.



I've never liked her. She seems as fake as it gets, but I believe we all have some family members we disagree with on so many issues that some things discussed here are just nonsense.

 

[Benn98]

Klossy's love for that Kushner lad is really being put to the test, lol. If I were her I'd want to renegotiate the prenup terms. The mere fact that she's associated with his family will eventually mess with her livelihood. The spotlight is now firmly on everyone who enabled the orange monster and Jared and Ivanka were the biggest ones.

The reason why people are so intense is not only about the coup, but also because Trump pardoned Karlie's father-in-law from his white collar crimes.

It's time for Karlie's husband to step up if he's really so against his brother and his family's intrigue. Say something to defend his wife, and make a statement about his father getting pardoned. Why must she take all the shots for something that's caused by his family? Klossy probably thought this would be easy street. He's rich and sorta hot despite the fact that he permanently looks like someone who just finished high school. What could go wrong?

 

[sixtdaily]

It's time for Karlie's husband to step up if he's really so against his brother and his family's intrigue. Say something to defend his wife, and make a statement about his father getting pardoned.

Asking Joshua Kushner to comment on his father getting a pardon from Trump because of crimes he (father) committed is just as ridiculous as asking Karlie to comment on Trump and her in-laws.

 

[arabchic]

I get that thing about Karlie but let's be realistic, we're all even afraid of being too confrontational with our own, non-famous/zero influential or powerful family members. It's family, there's not much you can do about it (unless you're one of these people that 'resigns' from relatives like it's a job), especially if it's not even your brother or aunt but your partner's family, you can only hammer so much before you enter 'f*cking psycho' territory, burn relationships to the ground and end up breaking your marriage. Now that would satisfy most people, they disapprove of Karlie being with a Kushner and want her to show 'true redemption' for that but what would that entail? should she divorce because the public disapproves? she is clearly comfortable and has been with the guy for many years..

I dislike Karlie lol, I cannot stand her Christy Turlington complex and her ultra crafted 'tv' personality (and don't get me started on her shady ways hiring Taylor's manager) but I'm a bit perplexed on what people want.. it seems like people demand a type of accountability that is not realistic in a divided country, not as a private citizen or a public figure. She has stated her position, surely not in a defiant way (ever thought her partner was probably not okay with it because it's his family after all?) but it's.. there, and there are no rumors of her being directly involved in any sketchy business, she certainly didn't get any cake slice during the nepotism fest happening in the past 4 years.


Now can we just establish that model dude is NOT hot nor good-looking? . Hot-ish, sure, in that 'bassist for that Air Supply cover band at Applebee's on an empty Tuesday night' way, no more really, I'm surprised he went as far as landing a contract. He's not even ripped in a hot way (more like he read the same far-right book on 'Roman/Greek' aesthetics I read recently, and didn't know when to stop lifting/taking pills)..

Christy Turlington complex? Is that about how Chrity dislikes fashion or?

 

[Benn98]

Asking Joshua Kushner to comment on his father getting a pardon from Trump because of crimes he (father) committed is just as ridiculous as asking Karlie to comment on Trump and her in-laws.

No, I don't think it is. He should make a statement especially considering how big of an issue this is, and how his wife is the one getting the most flak. Nobody is going after his family. Be transparent and make it known exactly what you cosign and what you don't.

The fans wanna know!

 

[theBlueRider]

Christy Turlington complex? Is that about how Chrity dislikes fashion or?

I'm asking too. Christy and Karlie both have very asymmetrical eyebrows with one being much higher and arched than the other. Could be that?

 

[lucy92]

Model Jodie Kidd's antisemetic brother (Jack Kidd) is at the forefront in the Qanon conspiracy - despite living in the UK and being very, very wealthy...The BBC has named him as a top influencer of the conspiracy in the UK.

He has been banned from Instagram.

Dailymail Link here

This link delves into his views. Very disturbing.
As far as i know, there has been no condemnation from Jodie nor from other sister Jemma.

 

[KoV]

Perhaps I'm missing something, I admit I haven't looked into it thoroughly, but pardoning Charles Kushner is probably one of the most least significant and least damaging things Tr*mp has done in the past... long while. Demanding that the son of a man Tr*mp pardoned speak on the subject, in my opinion, speaks more to people's desire for messy drama than anything else. Joshua Kushner's opinion on his father being pardoned has no bearing on... anything?

16/17 years ago Charles Kushner was under investigation for illegal donations to political candidates/causes, and I guess his sister/brother-in-law were helping in the investigation so he hired an escort to sleep with his brother-in-law as retaliation, I believe? Clearly this family is messy as hell, but he was convicted, sentenced to a couple of years in prison, and has been a free man since serving his sentence. This pardon seems more symbolic than anything else. Presidents pardon actual criminals all the time, for various reasons, I'm guessing because they think the person was over-punished or has turned over a new leaf or, realistically, because that person knows someone who knows someone. President Obama pardoned around 2,000 people as president. Do you think each and every one of those was a wonderful, innocent individual? And that's not a criticism of Obama. That's the president's power! Unless the power is being used to put dangerous violent people back into society or withhold punishment from privileged people who deserve punishment (which Tr*mp has absolutely done with some of his pardons), I don't see an issue. In the case of Charles Kushner, he already served his time in prison, paid a hefty fine, and was disbarred in 3 states. This pardon was basically purely symbolic, in my opinion, and would not even be remotely controversial on its own, it's only the nepotism angle that puts it in salacious light.

 

[velvetandsilk]

Seems like the Kushner parents have some big issues themselves, because they also didn't want Jared to marry Ivanka and got them to split for a short while

Due to religion. Ivanka and Karlie had to convert to Judaism. Sometimes orthodox community is very sceptical to converter.

Wait what is a Christy Turlington complex? Is it having mismatched eyebrows ?

Christy has good reputation. She graduated from college and has own foundation which help mothers. For someone she is not typical model, something more. In normal world it is nothing unique but a lot models have complexs about eduaction/ stereotypical view that they are foolish. Karlie told everywhere about going to study, her codeing camp and she acted image that doing something more than modeling.

 

[MulletProof]

^ yeah, more or less. Christy didn't conform with one of the most successful modeling careers ever and went on to expand it into academic/philanthropic territory... with a wellness touch, becoming way more than just a fashion personality and earning a respectable place among some of the most powerful people through the organizations she works for. I don't know the exact year Karlie hired her PR firm and the manager of Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift no less lol (2012 maybe?), but it's very clear the strategies to aggressively exploit her moderate success until then (compared to top models of those years [2008-2011] like Lara Stone- I won't even compare her to any of the Supermodels' achievements) were modeled after that and continually yelled in every media outlet. Anyone recalls "the Karlie"? as if it was 1992 and Linda's hair.

Now I don't mind people being naturally curious, drawn to science and not satisfied with just a modeling career (who would..) but do it substantially, actually take your time to renounce attention, go to school and engage in the rigorous training it needs, not just courses here and there along with private coaching to speak like Oprah for your youtube channel. It all just seems very superficial and exclusively power-driven, like a 10-year multimillion dollar effort to clear areas and launch a proper First Lady in 2033.

Back to the family, I certainly don't think her husband is completely harmless, he runs a healthcare insurance company in a country completely f*cked up by pharma and health care lobbying and comes from a family where most relatives have shown that moral compass is not a family priority. But I still don't think that Karlie 'needs' to do more to define where she stands politically and socially. I actually think there's something problematic in that demand, in thinking that if you don't broadcast your sociopolitical beliefs somewhere and to the standard established by our attention-starved social media culture, you're therefore complicit with silence and part of the problem. It is very American, a very 'with us or against us' bipartisan mentality and I don't think it's healthy if you expect a society to understand each other and overcome the lack of trust that makes people run for the hills and dig up bs theories up there. I actually think that expectation is a fundamental part of the problem, not the high-profile subjects we project our hopes on..

 

[theBlueRider]

Did Karlie ever go to college?

Sara Ziff, Joan Smalls, Carmen Kass and Nimue Smit/Mirte Maas (One of them, I get them confused), Adesuwa, one of the Chinese models that Steven Meisel likes (I forgot her name) and Ava Smith are just some of the few who finished college and aren't as well known to the general public. Sara Ziff is making waves with her work. I don't think a lot of them are "relevant" in the eyes of fashion anymore besides Adesuwa. But good for them for not using their degrees as some sort of badge of publicity and honor is what you're saying?

 

[THD96]

One of the model that I like is Julia Nobis who is studying to become a surgeon but did not use it's as a marketing tool for her career, in fact I don't think she have social media ( at least a public one) and she planning on retiring from modeling. Nothing but respect for her.

 

[Avonlea]

One of the model that I like is Julia Nobis who is studying to become a surgeon but did not use it's as a marketing tool for her career, in fact I don't think she have social media ( at least a public one) and she planning on retiring from modeling. Nothing but respect for her.

Homegirl has been retiring for the past 10 years.

 

[Avonlea]

I am one of those people who don't care about political views of celebrities. Even if Karlie liked Ivanka, there is nothing wrong with that. Nowadays every popular person is expected to be an activist and share beliefs/opinions that fit the "right" narrative dictated by the twitter crowd. If I were her I wouldnt even bother to read these comments, let alone respond to them.

 

[MulletProof]

But good for them for not using their degrees as some sort of badge of publicity and honor is what you're saying?

not really, not the use or lack of use but the type of publicity surrounding a rather common pursuit. I don't think it's something anyone's ever strictly private about (and there shouldn't be a reason for that) and most models certainly publicize one or another that they're now in school (especially if it's a renowned institution). I'm just doubtful of the PR machinery behind the studious image when... you're not even that studious or studious at all, so it seems more like you're after the rewards instead of the process, and what are these rewards without the process? certainly not knowledge, it's status.

 

[Ivancica]

Did Karlie ever go to college?

Sara Ziff, Joan Smalls, Carmen Kass and Nimue Smit/Mirte Maas (One of them, I get them confused), Adesuwa, one of the Chinese models that Steven Meisel likes (I forgot her name) and Ava Smith are just some of the few who finished college and aren't as well known to the general public. Sara Ziff is making waves with her work. I don't think a lot of them are "relevant" in the eyes of fashion anymore besides Adesuwa. But good for them for not using their degrees as some sort of badge of publicity and honor is what you're saying?

Models with Higher Education

 

[axiomatic]

Happy to be reminded of this again

 

[dsamg]

Homegirl has been retiring for the past 10 years.

Yes in Australia we can either go straight to a 6 year medicine degree from high school or do 3 years undergrad then 4 years post-grad. I believe Julia finished her undergrad science degree but did not get into post-grad med immediately a couple years ago when she 'retired' so went on a volunteering trip instead.

It sounds from this interview as if she is not really planning ever to try again and just wants to keep modelling actually. Otherwise why prioritise getting a US green card over going back home for med school after she just bought a place in Sydney in 2018?
Julia Nobis on Modeling and Studying to be a Doctor

 

[happycanadian]

I agree—I am very surprised to see Raquel on this list

I mean, I think in this instance perhaps Michelle is projecting a bit of her insecurities onto the situation. Raquel is considered one of the sweetest and most professional models out there and Karolina isn't even Brazilian and doesn't speak Portuguese hahah sooo....

 

[Benn98]

...Karolina isn't even Brazilian and doesn't speak Portuguese hahah sooo....

How do you know that?