Model Casting S/S 16

Also I don't know about anyone else but I don't get the appeal of Peyton Knight. She just looks like every other high school girl I see I guess she's just lucky cause she's so tall.

Really? I think she's incredibly unique, amazing features.

Actually I wish she had opened as an exclusive. Much more remarkable, and would save her from that godawful haircut Guido gave her at Wang.
 
Such a boring cast. I want the veterans back, and I certainly don't mean Meghan... I don't think Miuccia really cares anymore. She just lets Ashley cast whoever she wants, and Ashley doesn't care about creating a star anymore. I mean, if 95% of the cast is a newcomer how can you expect everyone to make it big. Most of last season's Prada girls were nowhere to be found this season.

Shame. Ashley for Prada used to be really good. Miu Miu is even worse btw.

Edit: but I was happy to see Natalie close the show.
 
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Guys why was Prada cast racist and not diverse? You have Mica,Nirvana Alice Metza,Lineisy from one hand ,Sora and Hyun and then you had blondes,redheads,stunners like Sandra Schmidt and alienly beautiful like Molly and the opener.I found it pretty much diverse.
 
Guys why was Prada cast racist and not diverse? You have Mica,Nirvana Alice Metza,Lineisy from one hand ,Sora and Hyun and then you had blondes,redheads,stunners like Sandra Schmidt and alienly beautiful like Molly and the opener.I found it pretty much diverse.

If you really think that roughly 5 WOC in a show of 47 looks is "pretty much diverse"...
 
Moschino was so entertaining and the cast was great. Maria Borges was the star on her first look imo.
Anna Cleveland was a bit over the top but she really made me laugh and delight.

The clothes are disaster though.
 
If you really think that roughly 5 WOC in a show of 47 looks is "pretty much diverse"...[/QU

Ofcourse beauty comes from all origins but this is not "Miss diverse casting director 2015".It's a fashion show.If the casting director spends all his effort trying to split equally the different colortypes of beauty to fit in one show in order not to be called a racist he/she doesn't do his/her job.And imo diverse cast is not only Asian/African/European.There can be diversity in the type of beauty that is being used in a fashion show and i saw that in Prada.
 
Let's clear something up:

Not casting equal amounts of all skin colors in a runway show does not mean a person should automatically be labeled a racist.
 
Ofcourse beauty comes from all origins but this is not "Miss diverse casting director 2015".It's a fashion show.If the casting director spends all his effort trying to split equally the different colortypes of beauty to fit in one show in order not to be called a racist he/she doesn't do his/her job.And imo diverse cast is not only Asian/African/European.There can be diversity in the type of beauty that is being used in a fashion show and i saw that in Prada.

First of all, we are talking about RACIAL diversity. Having models with different features, hair colors is not diversity, because in the end all of them are caucasians.

And the very idea of a casting director thinking of a "share" of models of color is already a huge part of the problem. It means that they don't truly find them beautiful or see them as equal to caucasians models, but only to make it seem like they to. That's horrific. Having that sort of mentality is not terribly ignorant for them on a personal level, but also business wise. It sends the message that the designer only see those clothes being worn by white women, that only white could buy them and wear them. Fashion is a vastly global industry with vastly global clientele, so should brands continue to endorse this European-type of beauty as the standart?

But the moral of the story is that WOC are just as beautiful as caucasians. So there's absolutely no excuse for only having 5 of them in a cast of nearly 50 models.
(PS: i'm going off on Prada but they're far from being the worst offender, sadly)
 
Let's clear something up:

Not casting equal amounts of all skin colors in a runway show does not mean a person should automatically be labeled a racist.

As Iman, Naomi and Bethann Hardison said when speaking up against lack of diversity: "We are calling THEM racists, we are calling the ACT of not casting a model based on her race or because there's already a certain number of models of cours, racism."
 
I am flabbergasted, while we are still fighting to get RACIAL equality in the fashion industry (ans the world at large), we are REALLY going to argue that diversity in hair colors should be commmended when non-white models only make up a minute fraction of shows and campaigns? I lose more faith in humans everyday.
 
Ofcourse beauty comes from all origins but this is not "Miss diverse casting director 2015".It's a fashion show. If the casting director spends all his effort trying to split equally the different colortypes of beauty to fit in one show in order not to be called a racist he/she doesn't do his/her job. And imo diverse cast is not only Asian/African/European.There can be diversity in the type of beauty that is being used in a fashion show and i saw that in Prada.

If the casting director is, in fact, completely race-unbiased, then they don't even have to worry about that, because it comes to them naturally. And I'm not blaming only the casting directors here - the designers themselves, the executives, everyone plays a part in this game.

About diversity in itself, Marc10 said it brilliantly about the business aspect and globalization (I can't give you karma, but thank you! :flower:), but I'll just add: a fashion show represents an ideal, an image of a woman suitable to the designers' aesthetics. A lot of young girls and boys, of all ethnicities, are followers of fashion (not necessarily high-fashion, but fashion), and when these girls and boys see only white and thin girls and boys suceeding, what are they gonna think? The absence of women of color on the runway means that a woman of color cannot be classy, or glamorous, or seductive, or elegant, or funny, or quirky... whatever that designer's vision is, it has no place for a woman of color. This doesn't affect only the designers, but they also affect those girls and boys of color watching the show. They wonder "do I fit in anywhere? I can't be beautiful if I'm not white?". That's the message it sends.
Now, the whole thing above might seem overdramatic to someone, and some might think "oh, but I see a lot of women of color on the runway now, when there weren't before, say, back in 2008 It's progress!" - and that is exactly the point. Fashion is already ruled by so many beauty standards, and when some of us finally opening our minds, even if by the slightest bit, and recognizing women of all races and complexions can be beautiful and fit in, in comes Prada (one of the most, if not the most, influential designers of our time), saying "I'd like my girls to stay white and thin, thank you very much". People like her - CDs, bigwigs, editors, other designers and important people - are refusing to get on with the times and recognize that the perspective is changing. They want to set us backwards, to be exclusionary in a time where fashion needs to be democratized if it's going to stay relevant to the global conversation. All that progress we made? They want to halt it. And We. Will. Not. Have. That.
Are hair colors a determinant factor in cultural, political, sociological, geographical and historical matters? Are hair colors a grand measure of worth in our society, not only of individuals, but of entire countries and continents? Have hair colors caused wars and raging conflicts between nations?
This world is huge and filled with all kinds of people, and it would be a darn shame if any of them should be deemed unworthy of wearing clothes, whatever those clothes might be.

(I'd like to ask you my sincere apologies, subway 123, if I've offended or disrespected you in any possible way. This is a topic that I'm really passionate about, and this post might have sounded a little too heated in whatever point, so if there's something troubling you about this, feel free to discuss it, and I will do my best to answer your doubts. Healthy discussion is the key to a lot of things in life :flower:)
 
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I had high hopes for Prada too considering that diversity has been so much better this season, so I was thourogly disappointed. Amilna, Fei Fei, Grace, Ajak, Tami, Jing... There are so many skilled, beautiful models who would have fitted the collection so perfectly!

I agree with you stoneskipper, and even though I think racial diversity is the biggest thing we should fix when it come to castings, there are more problems than that.
You mentioned skinny as a factor here, and since we are not aloud to debate that, I wont go into it. But if you look at a model in any way, they are a very small minority. How many women who actually buy these clothes, are 5'11'? How many who buys these clothes are 16 or 17 years old? How many girls or boys who watch these shows will recognize themself in models regardless if they are caucaisian or anything else?
Regardless if you look at the people who buy the clothing or people who are just interested they will not look like the models 99% of the time.
And since we have this for most people completely unattainable ideal, should we really be surprised that we are so far behind on racial diversity?
I'd like to say again that I think it is horrendous and entirely wrong! And I am not defending the choices of the CD and designers and whatever regarding MOC, I'm just saying that in every way the ideal they put out on runways and ads are far removed from reality.

In Subway123 defence, I've often been confused by the fact that for instance even models with really dark hair almost always have light eyes. The fact that most of the time runways are overinfused by blondes or brunettes with really light hair.
Saying that all caucasian models have it easier is such a simplification. If you look at scandinavian and north european models they can look quite different from southern europeans and especially south eastern european models. Isn't that a type of racism as well? That readheads for instance have had such a hard time, their look which is very typical for certain contries, and can't be booked becuase they want models as light as possible? That models with brown eyes get passed over because they aren't light enough?
They have it a lot easier than MOC, true, but does that make that discrimination any less bad?
All discrimination is wrong! It doesn't matter how many get discriminated or to which extent, it is wrong anyway! So isn't it good that we at least see improvement in one type of discrimination?
 
For instance, Liniesy is right now the number one walker with 34 shows.
The redhead with the most shows is Magdalena Jasek with 19 shows.
Between them are nine models of colour.

Fourteen models with red hair have walked during fashion week SS16 so far. including Karen Elson who is a super and Julia Hafstrom who I'm not sure what her hair actually is. Many of them walking as few as 1-4 shows.
There has been 122 booked models of colour during fashion week SS16 so far.
And there have been unusually many redheads the last few seasons.

Again, I still think models of colour have a bigger problem and represent a bigger number of cultures (mostly african and asian this season, a few from south america), but that doesen't make the other discrimination any better.

(source of information is models.com)
 
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why is vanessa moody closing 2 shows today...

the star power is missing. versace better bring it.
 
Natasha, Isabeli and Caroline are all in town... probably for Versace or Cavalli or hopefully both!
 
I can't deal with Vanessa Moody, she's so boooooooooooooring. Don't understand how they choose her for open or closing the shows.
Anyway, it was a pleasure to see Grace Bol @ Blumarine :heart:
 
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I can't deal with Vanessa Moody, she's so boooooooooooooring. Don't understand how they choose her for open or closing the shows.
Anyway, it was a pleasure to see Grace Bol @ Blumarine :heart:

Me either. Her walk is average and I still don't get her appeal tbh.
 

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