Who Will Succeed John Galliano At Dior? #1

[IAmLordZen]

But they do. A Prada collections are easily recognizable. Muccia has a specific look for both Miu Miu and Prada. No matter what the inspiration of the collection may be, the DNA of the label remains firmly intact, even if the silhouettes change. Prada is never conventional and Muccia's collections are always an acquired taste. It can be quirky, feminine, contradictory, and down right ugly. That, itself, is their aesthetic. I suppose that just isn't clear cut enough for you to identify. As I said before, no identity is threaded through each collections to make Vuitton a coherent fashion house. Even if Prada collections are very different from one and another, they still retain the same vision and aesthetic.

for hard core fashion-philes maybe. show me a piece from an old Prada collection i've not seen before and chances are, i will confuse it as a work of some obscure house. i don't know how philosophically broad your definition of aesthetic is but "clear cut" does not describe Prada's at all. Chanel and Dior have clear cut aesthetics, and now that you bring up DNA, Karl and John have produced collections that are in line with what the Chanel and Dior did in their heyday. but prada? if being "quirky, feminine, contradictory, and down right ugly" is their aesthetic, a lot of fashion houses are like that too, which brings me back to my initial argument, "clear cut aesthetic" does not describe Prada at all.

 

[FelipeV]

^
"It's clear that Chanel is known for the little jacket, and Vuitton for the LV, and us? Nobody really knows what we are, which is fortunate. Because I try to resist making a banal product (...) It's clear that, as the world continues to get bigger, a bit of simplification is necessary but not to the point where it becomes totally useless or uninteresting."
Miuccia Prada
WWD

 

[Deleted member 7575]

I think what you all mean is that while Prada does not have a clear cut look or aesthetic (although they would if you asked their sales people what the bestsellers are ) they do have a strong and signature METHODOLOGY, which is different but similar.

Anyways, this is a thread about Dior...

 

[FelipeV]

You right. This is about Dior. One thing that is interesting about the article posted by MissMagAddict is Toledado's speech about the team work:

"Bill's strength is putting the team first (...) It's a new way of working that's very interesting. I think that the one-man show, it's a little bit over."

That's why I wouldn't like to see Jacobs or any other well-known designer in the house.

 

[coldlunch]

I think it will be very exciting to see MJ for Dior. He is the perfect choice and will do no wrong but only show us something different.

Why I think he is perfect. Both his fall 2010 LV and MJ collections were very Dior. MJ is great with bags and just imagine what he can come up with Dior. I think a lot of ladies are drooling of this thought. Finally, MJ has a quality of being meticulous with a simple effect which I think is perfect for couture.

The only thing I'm concerned is if he get's chosen for Dior. I think doing MJ, M by MJ, LV, & Dior might be too challenging. So he has to give up LV since only Bags for LV is what really is doing well, maybe the team can continue designing LV

Pheobe should stay at Celine because there is a saying "don't fix what is not broken", maybe her job can be as a consultant for LV bags , but not head designer.

Overall, I think this is an important decision because not only will it impact the LVMH company, but I think the whole direction of fashion. This is very exciting, let's all stay tuned

 

[Psylocke]

^I actually don't think it's exciting AT ALL anymore. Rotating the same designers around at the LVMH brands seems kind of lazy. Did LVMH not check out any fashion shows in NY or London, did they not see there's so much fresh talent around? Why not take a risk and introduce someone new to a big house? Not that they necessarily have to pick someone brand new for Dior, but if they want someone who's already with LVMH for Dior then at least replace the other designer with someone new. I still love the idea of someone like Erdem or the Mulleavy sisters working for LVMH.
Phoebe is perfect for Céline, I don't see why she would have to be at both, Céline & LV.

 

[mackos]

Phoebe is perfect for Céline, I don't see why she would have to be at both, Céline & LV.

Given her spectacular revival of Céline and marvellous work with accessories, I bet she would bring a whole new level of excitement to Vuitton as well.

 

[Psylocke]

^Not doubting that at all, I'm sure she'd do a great job. But I'm also sure that there are lots of other designers who are capable of doing that as well and I think it would be way more exciting to have someone new take over.

 

[thejarc]

As far as I understood the Phoebe-thing just seemed a suggestion of the writer, whereas the Marc Jacobs rumors seemed to have a serious source.

 

[iluvjeisa]

You right. This is about Dior. One thing that is interesting about the article posted by MissMagAddict is Toledado's speech about the team work:

"Bill's strength is putting the team first (...) It's a new way of working that's very interesting. I think that the one-man show, it's a little bit over."

That's why I wouldn't like to see Jacobs or any other well-known designer in the house.

Yeah, that argument would work way better if it wasn't for the fact that the Dior show produced by this team effort was atrocious. And that's not even close to the horrors presented at the Galliano show. We all needed that like a holes in our heads.

So, actually, these two shows were the most powerful arguments FOR the auteur that I have seen in quite some time.

 

[Squizree]

^ Absolutely. There is no greater proof that Dior NEEDS a "one man show" than the last Haute Couture collection. It was the biggest mess I've ever seen. But is there seriously no one except Jacobs? Is he really the only person with any personality?

 

[iluvjeisa]

^ Absolutely. There is no greater proof that Dior NEEDS a "one man show" than the last Haute Couture collection. It was the biggest mess I've ever seen. But is there seriously no one except Jacobs? Is he really the only person with any personality?

No. But he is the safest in the sense that he has yet to fail with anything he sets out to - obviously that's my personal opinion.

For some reason I think Christopher Kane is the best choice. I don't know why. Except that he favours a silhouette that I can see at Dior, and his sense for colors seem appropriate for the task.

 

[Dkammern]

Louis Vuitton has just announced that they are planning to unveil an exhibition during Milan Fashion Week that will pay tribute to their artistic director of 14 years, Marc Jacobs.

So... It sounds true.

they've been doing exhibits about marc's work since they opened the Bond st boutique in London. And that was before Galliano.

Doing exhibitions is 'the new thing' for fashion houses. Chanel does them, Dior does them, Vuitton too of course. It's a massive effort to convince people they are not splurging in just 'another bag' but rather investing in 'culture'.

Anyway. There are so many rumors pointing at him that I am starting to believe it will happen. I just don't see any feasible replacement for him at LV (no way Philo is doing it).

 

[Crying Diamonds]

Yeah, that argument would work way better if it wasn't for the fact that the Dior show produced by this team effort was atrocious. And that's not even close to the horrors presented at the Galliano show. We all needed that like a holes in our heads.

So, actually, these two shows were the most powerful arguments FOR the auteur that I have seen in quite some time.

As are apparent by my countless posts on the matter, I am rigidly against the idea of any more houses falling into the pit crawling with the ideas of numerous people.
The results tend to be less than uninspired apart from by the house archives, this likely due to the voices of those people in the team with unique ideas being silenced by those with bland ideas loyal to continuing an age-old legacy.
Louis Vuitton, one of the very few luxury fashion houses that the whole world is aware of, must have statement collections that appear at the forefront of fashion. If not for sales, then to heighten the prestige of their iconic accessories.
The last thing they need is half-baked wearability aspiring to Vuitton Essential Clothing which never existed.

 

[Bonbonenata]

I don't see Marc Jacobs in Dior neither Phoebe in LV. In my mind LV is a symbol of overdecorated, rich pieces. Honestly, I don't like LV. At the same time I like Marc Jacobs and Marc by Marc Jacobs (well it's strange.. or not?). I admit that Marc is wonderful designer and his mind is full of ideas. But I'm not sure if this is Dior.

And Phoebe in LV. WTF? I certainly don't think she will fit there.

Oh.. I want to mute it but there's a little voice in my head that says "If McQueen was alive, he would succeed Galliano".. or maybe not.

 

[CholoChic]

..and where is the people who hate the Galliano work for Dior?
they should be happy with this change

 

[mackos]

..and where is the people who hate the Galliano work for Dior?
they should be happy with this change

They should rather ask if new designer won't share Galliano's fate when being harshly limited in the designs by the management.

 

[ChrissyM]

I hate that this is still a question we're seeking an answer for – can't they just replace Galliano already!?!?

I almost don't care who it is at this point. So tired of watching and waiting.

 

[FelipeV]

Yeah, that argument would work way better if it wasn't for the fact that the Dior show produced by this team effort was atrocious. And that's not even close to the horrors presented at the Galliano show. We all needed that like a holes in our heads.

So, actually, these two shows were the most powerful arguments FOR the auteur that I have seen in quite some time.

By one man-show i don't think he means "creative director", but someone who is so famous like the brand. That's the risk with Jacobs, he's overexposed. Whatever the issue is, if he gets married, divorced, when he goes to the beach, even when he dress like woman, he's going to attract the press- to the designer, not the brand-, and i think that's the last thing LVMH group wants. If he gets in, i don't think we're gonna see him too much.

..and where is the people who hate the Galliano work for Dior?
they should be happy with this change

The only thing that bothered me of him is that, most of the times, he made ​​look women like drag queens.

 

[CholoChic]

Just in the catwalk darling, because on store the traslated pieces were exquisite and desirable wereable, that´s why they won so many billions!

The only thing that bothered me of him is that, most of the times, he made ​​look women like drag queens.