Victoria's Secret Fashion Show 2008 - Please see first post before posting*UPDATED

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for any Aussies still waiting for the show..it will be aired Christmas Eve on channel 10
 
^ Ok, thanks.
Why are Aussies always like one month behind the Americans?
Can't watch to watch it HQ on TV. :flower:
 
CW 11 showed Victoria's Secret Show 2008 ...
and Karolina's issue with the dress was not edited out. lol
 
CW 11 showed Victoria's Secret Show 2008 ...
and Karolina's issue with the dress was not edited out. lol

Why would it be? It's like it was live when it was aired on CBS...so they aren't going to edit it out on the cw :)
 
^ Ok, thanks.
Why are Aussies always like one month behind the Americans?
Can't watch to watch it HQ on TV. :flower:
Same with me! Sweden will air this show around 20:th of December like they usually do, I think! Sometimes it can really suck to live in far far Sweden.^_^
 
Well her not being in the main stream 60 second one or 30 second or 15 second during the airing of the christmas commercial still pretty much shows she's leaving...along with all the other signs. I honestly wish they'd get rid of other angels before KK...when they removed her video from the show site...I was like well that pretty much does it. Like I said there are other angels I'd perfer to see gone....

You know what's weird? I was watching the rerun that aired on the CW network last night, and they played the commercial WITH KK in it.

But the first time it aired, they did not play that commercial.
 
Did anyone mention that the VSFS airs today on ProSieben in Germany, at 23:30?
 
You know what's weird? I was watching the rerun that aired on the CW network last night, and they played the commercial WITH KK in it.

But the first time it aired, they did not play that commercial.

Well the 60 second didn't have her in it which was the mainstream one, and her video profile was taken down...and she didn't promote the show at all when all the angels did... and it would make her the only "angel" in history to only get two outfits when she wasn't a beginner...but only time will convince some people...

About carmen, not I don't belive there is a picture of it but it was stated in an article :)
 
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KK got three outfits, the goddes one, the flowers and the last one the red one, in 2005 show heidi did the same, she gt the wthe with the wings, the russian one and the finale one and she just appeared in two segments, just as KK
 
A finale outfit doesn't really count....I'm talking about walking three times Aaron...and the only reason Heidi didn't get three was because she just gave birth and that whole hoopla...but like I said even taking that out of it..Vs took her video profile down, she didn't promote the show at all, she wasn't in the mainstream VS christmas commercials, she didn't do any commercials this year except for the biofit (except for small snippets in the bra sale this year) and she was replaced in the biofit ads by the new angel, and etc...but like I said only time will prove to some people...people will see soon no need for me to keep saying it...just wait and see....

the vs show site is def preparing for their new angel line up by taking down KK's video profile and Emanuela's. I'm guessing they'll debut Emanuela in the summer of the upcoming year...although she could also be at the signing in Jan with Adriana.
 
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The girls all change back and they don't wear anything underneath, it's quite common in the fashion industry and you expect people to be professional and not yell I saw a boob or anything else. Usually they change so fast you can't tell anyway, and the people aren't really allowed to film in those areas anyway...most of the time they are shooed away. Sometimes they do catch a model real fast but 98% time the cameras aren't allowed back there for that reason, and the other reason being they get in the way.

As for the return of glamour...let's not forget everyone was pretty much in love with this show until the show actually aired. I think VS did fine, I think the set, the clothing and etc were great and they did return to glamour, I think CBS screwed it up. VS set it up so models like Adriana and Alessandra would be the stars and they didn't want KK to be picked on because other models had fumbles (carmen got her cape caught on stage in the first taping) but CBS decided to edit it horiblly, make it the Heidi show again, and make KK look like a victim again...hoenstly it's time to switch stations.

Is the TV station the one that does the editing or isn't it the VS editor? I'd always heard it was VS who did the editing and that CBS presented it the way it was presented to them by VS. I know CBS must have been filming but I would think and have always heard that VS has the final editing decisions. Now, I'm confused.:unsure: That is why I said they flopped with their Return to Glamour. Also, all the finger pointing, arms flailing (we aren't there to cheer on our favorite football team or sumthin') and silly stuff on the runway was another thing I was referring to. Gisele would never have done that. She stayed classy all the way. And, I loved the set, the runway (without the performer being there the same time the girls are) and most all of the outfits. The editing is what made it NOT the Return to Glamour that you would expect, IMHO.:flower:
 
If the CBS mainstream addition didn't air it I wouldn't take it seriously...like I said she's not an angel all signs point to it...but only time will prove to people who don't want to believe it. IMO it's so obvious it's not funny but maybe it's not to some people...like I said only time will tell....
VS loves the hand motions and loves Dri for it. She gets a crowd going hence why she was asked to open twice in a row, and the fact that she was the first model in VS history to open and close a segment...people may not like it but VS does. Yes, CBS does the editing, it's their program and the hand waving and etc is entertaining to the american public and the mainstream public loves that and etc. . VS usually keeps the parts they want for their video on their site. And CBS lets some video footage go of the taping that isn't going to be included in the final airing (hence Adriana taking Ushers hat in the first taping and she wasn't pointing as much was let go to the mainstream media, and they kept the more exciting *In CBS's eyes* one for the final airing or Maryna who didn't slap Usher in her first taping but CBS kept it in because it was entertaining) they do that quite a bit. But final thing is yes CBS edits it..They put the footage that they feel is the most entertaining in the final edit or the biggest names. Hence why there was so much Heidi, so much hand pointing and etc, and the fact that while they mentioned the others girls names only once or not at all...most of the time all you hear was Adriana, Adriana, Adriana, or Heidi, Heidi, Heidi...it's easy to see VS was informing CBS to make sure Adriana's name was put out there. It's obvious VS wants and is transitioning Adriana into lead angel position, but like I said with CBS always making Heidi the star and the main attraction models like Adriana, Alessandra, and the others won't get any kind of attention. That's why the sooner they get Heidi out the better for all the models.

Fine print
*The only reason I'm mentioning Miss Lima in this post often is because she's a good example when it comes to this*
 
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yeah everything was very much a "return to glamour" besides the editing and hand motions. other than that the set,the outfits were more glamorous than they have been in a long time! while maybe not the best in motion, at least we have great pictures of really gorgeous outfits (didn't think I would ever see that again after 06-07 overly themed outfits) this year looked like actual lingerie!

I would like to see the show held in Las Vegas next
 
I'm acutally guessing it will be since they're will be a Fontianbleu opening there next year....and they've had the fashion show everywhere they had the tour stop in 2004...I'd personally love to see them do it in Vegas if they can pull off a show like they did this year...let's see those fountains turn pink again :)
 
good point, it is the only place they haven't had the show yet (from the aaa tour) so it would make perfect sense and change things up a bit.

maybe the theme there would be SEXY and wild or something.
 
What was up with that spanish singer? Was I the only one who thought he murdered the show?
 
i don't know if you were the only one or not, but i certainly don't agree with you. i thought he was awesome and that his music made that segment incredibly sexy! amazing rhythm. all the girls were dancing, really feelin' it! i loved it!!
 
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