Vogue Paris December 2010/January 2011 : Daphne Groeneveld & Tom Ford by Mert Alas & Marcus Piggott

[envogueforever]

Thanks for the link Pedro but I only seem to view the first image which was in the preview... so weird!

 

[agee]

Am i the only one who think Forever Love quite good ?

Nope, read up a few posts, me and at least one other person made favorable comments.

 

[Squizree]

I like it too. It's not overtly vulgar and seems to actually portray the pieces well. Not only that but it reflects "forever love" so well.

 

[Phuel]

"Forever Love" is beautiful-- not the least bit vulgar, or "gross" or "disturbing". It's great to see Tom promote older people together as lively, sexual and passionate beings, rather as just cougars and the male-equivalent. I think this editorial strikes a nice balance to all the young girls that appear in this issue, including the kids.

I don't think this issue is as hopeless as most have deemed it here. It definitely could be much, much better. And unlike most here, Terry's editorial is the worst for me; it's not horrible, but the concept is so overdone it just comes off lazy.

And the calender is rather bland. The only great shot is the cover.

Alright effort overall VP, but I won't be picking it up.

 

[KKnardi]

"Forever Love" is beautiful-- not the least bit vulgar, or "gross" or "disturbing". It's great to see Tom promote older people together as lively, sexual and passionate beings, rather as just cougars and the male-equivalent. I think this editorial strikes a nice balance to all the young girls that appear in this issue, including the kids.

I see what you mean by the balance. But still it's kind of gross actually, especially the "old mans back"-picture...

 

[Squizree]

^ I find it MUCH less disgusting than the Cadeaux shots. Quite interesting actually.

 

[Deleted member 116957]

I don't see the point in being completely grossed out by Forever Love because really, we're all going to look like that one day.

 

[tigerrouge]

I think I expected Tom Ford's take on things to be slightly more glossy than this. Yes, there'd be a degree of deliberate vulgarity, but somehow I thought there'd also be more wit, more polish, more sophistication.

As phuel said, he's pushed the spectrum of age on both sides, by using children and older people, and when I get the issue in my hands, I wonder what that's going to be like, to move from one editorial to another.

From a small preview I saw on one site, I also noticed there seems to be a tribute article about Richard Buckley, and another feature that focuses on their Santa Fe ranch? Those articles seemed rather melancholy in comparison to the rest of the content, I almost got a sense of emptiness from those shots, as if... when he stops playing the part of "Tom Ford" and gets serious, there's nothing there, the real Tom is intangible, we can't see him.

I'm only going by a fleeting impression, but it's like all this creative output is like a charade, the creation of a shell, where we've come to expect certain things from the guy, but it's now become a caricature, where he's freezing his face with surgery, and recycling his greatest hits, and we end up with a Vogue Paris that looks like this. Which might be more authentically "Tom Ford" than we imagine, in terms of where the brand might be going - the potential disappointment and repetition - but this issue also makes me wonder about who this man really is, because he can't be the cartoon that we see. What kind of content would that person have created, if he didn't have to pretend to be this larger-than-life legend who has a lot to live up to?

 

[CrisGalaxy]

Forever Love is beautiful...

 

[ForChicSake]

Forever Love is beautiful...

i couldn't agree more

 

[Spike413]

I think I expected Tom Ford's take on things to be slightly more glossy than this. Yes, there'd be a degree of deliberate vulgarity, but somehow I thought there'd also be more wit, more polish, more sophistication.

I was expecting the same thing quite honestly. While I don't dislike everything that I've seen of the issue so far it's really not how I envisioned it.

I think the duel forces of Tom Ford and Vogue Paris ended up backfiring in the end. On his own Ford uses sexuality and controversy freely, and for the most part he knows how to use just enough. Vogue Paris, on the other hand, uses sexuality and controversy even more liberally than Ford does. In hindsight combining the two seems like overkill. Whereas a Ford-directed editorial in American Vogue, or W, or Interview probably would have showcased his sensibility with enough balance between the tasteful and the trashy, VP seems to have brought out the worst of his sensibility as opposed to the best. Ford's work has always been at it's strongest when it wasn't about sex itself but rather the suggestion of sex, and since lately it seems like VP is incapable of suggesting anything I have to say I'm not surprised that this issue doesn't really work in the end, although I'm tremendously disappointed.

It's just a shame that the cover promised something that none of the contents, the one's that have been posted anyway, made good on.

 

[vogue28]

After seeing Crystal's editorial, I immediately thought of Miesel's Makeover Madness. It's a concept that has always intrigued me actually.
For some reason, I adore Forever Love. The photos have a raw and untouched quality. Not the ideal issue of Vogue Paris, but its got strong points.
It's probably the calendar with Daria that finishes the issue. But that almost looks like set of reject Bijoux photos.

 

[BerlinRocks]

if you're not a suscriber, are not interested into seeing naked Daria posing for a hidden ad campain for Vuitton jewelry, are not interested in Tom Ford and his new collection or are just broke ... do not bother buying this issue.
it would be a waste of money (especially if you have to spend $15) !

first, Conde Nast FR was probably out of money for this issue, since :
- their old xmas gift brochure is taking 50p. of the magazine (there's, then, no En Vogue pages) ... Though the "Cadeaux" spread is the exact same concept. With only 8 yrs old girls ... à la Hamilton meets Studio 54, in a way
- the calendar is clearly sponsored by Louis Vuitton Bijoux

second, only Forever Love is an interesting editorial.
Crystal Renn is, I suppose, an ironic editorial about the speculations of the young lady having lost all her proud-gained-weight .... but if these photos aren't photoshoped to death, she clearly has lost some good fat ....

third, I have nothing against designers turning photographers (Karl, Hedi and now Tom), but seriously isn't it becoming a joke ? what is next ? John Galliano making a fitness DVD ? stick to designing outfits and keep your pictures in your personal album, there are professionals out there to shoot your outfit ....

and fourth, who ****ing cares of 8p. pictures about Tom Ford's ranch in Santa Fe ??? Seriously, who ????????

So, my conclusion : if you can tear apart the Forever Love at your magazine dealer, just do it. the rest isn't worth the $15 or whatever you pay for VP ....

 

[Alien Sex Friend]

^Berlin, calendar have been always sponsored, thats absolutely obvious: chanel jewelry in 2008, swarovski in 2010

the issue is interesting to read, `cause even if i am not a fan of tom as a person i seriously admiring him as a working proffesional. photographing isn`t an art, and, i suppose, that`s only here he is taking pictures for magazines. i guess, he will stop only on his campaigns (btw, it is interesting to see womenswear campaign for s/s 2011, though i am not avaiting for miracles)
and the issue is seriously lacks of good `complicated` styling by madame Roitfeld and, surely, pics by Testino (did they suppose, what noone spotted this?), but, i guess, there`s something wrong with their relationships last years (i mean tom, carine with mario) and it is sad

 

[markese91]

photographing isn`t an art, and, i suppose, that`s only here he is taking pictures for magazines.

After I read that line... I can take nothing else you say seriously and I'm not even a photographer... that's an insult to an entire industry in my opinion.

 

[Alien Sex Friend]

^fashion is not art it is business (anyone who works here can confirm that), i am really sorry to say that and sorry if that offent you, but it is quite strange actually if it does

 

[Manuva]

I feel like I should buy this more than I actually want to buy it. It's as if VP is resting on the idea of Tom Ford's celebrity name too heavily, and decided that the issue could still be this bad and people will still buy it.

It just seems that minimal effort was put into this issue; it's all filler and no killer.

 

[Deleted member 116957]

After I read that line... I can take nothing else you say seriously and I'm not even a photographer... that's an insult to an entire industry in my opinion.

Well, I think there's a difference between fashion photography and photography as an art.

 

[testinofan]

Igree ASF this is a business if you like see Art go to a musseum or buy other magazine, in the fashion photography rare time have art.

 

[florider2000]

VP the new PIRELLI?

I am very surprised no one seemed to have mentioned the word PIRELLI calendar to make a blatant comparison with this one?It seems to me it is very similar in artistic intent and content?
I am a woman and I have 2 Pirelli calendars (Kate by Mert/Alas and "Gold" Naomi by Avedon) framed on my walls and do not care who would be offended as they shouldn't.
My British inlaws smile a bit when they visit and my French mother didn't seem to even notice last time ! I am very interested in adding this one to my walls. Daria is so elegant even with nothing on. Hoping to catch one with calendar in the Uk if not back in France for Xmas.