Amen! Very well said!Lmao who are these models?! what was the budget, $1.5k?
It's wild how this company is so rotten in every tiny corner of their structure that they are beyond helpless at understanding what went wrong and how to fix it. It's like they exclusively focused on the backlash and waited it out, then filtered out the controversial elements and feel ready for a comeback. The way this is going to flop for them.. you want to feel a little bad, but at the same time, they're just so underserving at this point..
Times have changed and there are new factors into consideration (social media, being able to voice an opinion on their product that is visible for everyone), but the foundation of marketing for brands like this (that tap into how women view themselves, how they're viewed, level of sexualization, etc) has not. Why did they skyrocket before? because their casting emitted power, their women had established careers, all legitimized by high fashion (all of them, Adriana and Alessandra included), they were invited for that, the show was about gathering the best of the best, it was an all-star event (e.g. Cannes 2000), and it showed lingerie that women actually desired and wanted to see themselves in. The fact that they can't get the product right to save their lives is an indication of how bad it all is. Even their partnership with a smaller, newer brand that doesn't even do lingerie and with zero history like Frankie's Bikinis, makes Frankie's Bikini's look like they're doing charity work by validating VS.. and the preview in the last page?!.. are they really going to do a show that is still aiming for the aesthetic of a discarded Black Eyed Peas wardrobe circa 2009? what else, curls and orange tans and 'wings' with neon lights or that are 'oMg sO HeAvY I hAd tO GeT a TrAiNer fOr 6 WeEkS'..?
Their colossal mistake was getting too confident and in-your-face about the sex ring thing that was happening behind doors and switching the format of the show from a lineup of Bond girls (late 90s to 2003) they had the privilege to gather, to a lineup of Miss Universe/sorority girls that giggle and cry and go on extreme diets over the 'honor' of being accepted into this beauty pageant.. they reduced their models to powerless betas whose biggest dream in life is walking in an underwear show and that is partly why, post 2017, audiences became more observant and they could not survive the scrutiny. Not revising this and in fact making it worse by using nameless models, is incomprehensible to me.. for any company in general. They didn't have to burn themselves to the ground, they just had to study their own timeline, revisit initial success and understand why audiences became and are still critical.
Their recent tea time campaign with the models that embody that Miss Universe era and that are nowhere to be found in high fashion campaigns right at this moment.. it's harmless and yet so representative of why they went down fast and why no amount of money invested on hyping a show no one misses will save them.
And for this essay on Victoria's Secret, you're welcome everyone! 🤡🤣
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If they are smart they'll go back to their exclusive very high fashion past but then the suits in the board rooms never know whats on the ground, they only see things in numbers.Lmao who are these models?! what was the budget, $1.5k?
It's wild how this company is so rotten in every tiny corner of their structure that they are beyond helpless at understanding what went wrong and how to fix it. It's like they exclusively focused on the backlash and waited it out, then filtered out the controversial elements and feel ready for a comeback. The way this is going to flop for them.. you want to feel a little bad, but at the same time, they're just so underserving at this point..
Times have changed and there are new factors into consideration (social media, being able to voice an opinion on their product that is visible for everyone), but the foundation of marketing for brands like this (that tap into how women view themselves, how they're viewed, level of sexualization, etc) has not. Why did they skyrocket before? because their casting emitted power, their women had established careers, all legitimized by high fashion (all of them, Adriana and Alessandra included), they were invited for that, the show was about gathering the best of the best, it was an all-star event (e.g. Cannes 2000), and it showed lingerie that women actually desired and wanted to see themselves in. The fact that they can't get the product right to save their lives is an indication of how bad it all is. Even their partnership with a smaller, newer brand that doesn't even do lingerie and with zero history like Frankie's Bikinis, makes Frankie's Bikini's look like they're doing charity work by validating VS.. and the preview in the last page?!
Their colossal mistake was getting too confident and in-your-face about the sex ring thing that was happening behind doors and switching the format of the show from a lineup of Bond girls (late 90s to 2003) they had the privilege to gather, to a lineup of Miss Universe/sorority girls that giggle and cry and go on extreme diets over the 'honor' of being accepted into this beauty pageant.. they reduced their models to powerless betas whose biggest dream in life is walking in an underwear show and that is partly why, post 2017, audiences became more observant and they could not survive the scrutiny. Not revising this and in fact making it worse by using nameless models, is incomprehensible to me.. for any company in general. They didn't have to burn themselves to the ground, they just had to study their own timeline, revisit initial success and understand why audiences became and are still critical.
Their recent tea time campaign with the models that embody that Miss Universe era and that are nowhere to be found in high fashion campaigns right at this moment.. it's harmless and yet so representative of why they went down fast and why no amount of money invested on hyping a show no one misses will save them.
And for this essay on Victoria's Secret, you're welcome everyone! 🤡🤣
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I'D LOVE to see Natasha Poly making a big comeback for the Victoria's Secret, she supposed to walk 2009 or 10 show but she skipped it for a Vogue Paris cover.
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When is the show and where?
According to Glamour Mexico the list in addition to Tyra and Gigi is as follows:
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- Hailey Bieber
- Bella Hadid
- Behati Prinsloo
- Jill Kortleve
- Adriana Lima
- Candice Swanepoel
- Naomi Campbell
- Imaan Hammam
- Lila Moss
- Heidi Klum
- Iris Law
- Abby Champion
- Lily Aldridge
- Valentina Sampaio
- Adut Akech
- Paloma Elsesser
- Sora Choi
- Taylor Hill
- Winnie Harlow
- Emma Thynn
- Paloma Elsesser
- Mayowa Nicholas
- Devyn García
- Grace Elizabeth
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Es oficial, el Victoria's Secret Fashion Show 2024 sucederá y promete ser tan inclusivo como glamoroso e icónico. Te contamos todos los detalles.
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I've been seeing the OG angels popping up on the Venice FF carpets and events. I wonder if its an indication that they'll appear.
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so excited for the show!
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This was NOT a casting for VSFS. It's DM Fashion Studio's general precasting for New York Fashion Week 😅
It also did not take place anywhere near VS HQ, haha.
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I noticed that it wasn't at the HQ as well, though I know an agent at The Industry had confirmed to various VS update accounts that it was indeed a VS casting... nonetheless, the Glamour list above seems pretty expected of a cast, aside from Hailey given she's postpartum (EDIT: Adut either recently had her baby or is expecting soon as well, no?). Wouldn't be surprised if the majority are confirmed after all.
I find the concept of VS confirming 1-2 models per week when the show is coming up in a month and a half a little... strange, no? That surely isn't going to account for everybody, and it doesn't seem like the models themselves are allowed to confirm their own presence at the show just yet.
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1- Grace Elizabeth
2- Mayowa Nicholas
3- Taylor Hill
4- Devyn Garcia
5- Paloma Elsesser
6- Candice Swanepoel
7- Imaan Hammam
8- Gigi Hadid
Is Tyra Banks hosting or what?
2- Mayowa Nicholas
3- Taylor Hill
4- Devyn Garcia
5- Paloma Elsesser
6- Candice Swanepoel
7- Imaan Hammam
8- Gigi Hadid
Is Tyra Banks hosting or what?
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It’s all such a bore….. not one bombshell
I think she's walking
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this was for NYFW.
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Adriana Lima I think might walk? And she has lost a lot of weight she had.
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^That makes sense after her breakout. Her songs are made for VSFS 
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