Victoria's Secret Fashion Show 2016

[Greenway]

Does anybody have a link for the full show please?

 

[TaylorBinque]

Dark Angels outfits are quite nice. Gigi surprised me at how comfortable and cross-over HF and commercial she looks. I feel like this staging is pretty much the same. I missed when they did a little bit different staging like when they go to Miami. Also, I was hoping they would infused some French essence. Making the show live would have been better as well. Why can't they spend more money to do live edits. It's not like they don't have budget.

What had me laughing is when they try to push how crossover the VS angels to HF are but then show the footage of mostly Balmain.

 

[Cute]

Irina looked soooo good and Alanna and Leomie had so much energy backstage during 24k Magic I loved it!

 

[zacatecas570]

Where can I see the full show in good quality?

 

[sixtdaily]

Here's a link for the show in good quality: http://fmovies.to/film/victorias-secret-fashion-show-2016.m2898/np9xkj

 

[zacatecas570]

Thank you very much sixtdaily

 

[octoberchild]

Jasmine was really beautiful last night, it's unfortunate that they didn't give her a proper segment to showcase the FB (among the other things they didn't do for her). They really blew a great opportunity there to really put her on the map as a major force in their angel lineup- which is so stupid because they don't have a deep bench of black models they can chose from if they decided to replace her tomorrow. And Jas/Lais are really the only symbols of diversity (and thus their relevance in a society that's relaxing, albeit slowly, beauty norms). And she's by far their best Sport girl, and they need Sport to do well since they've cut so many other parts of their business recently.

But this is the same company that thinks the silly first segment was an legitimate celebration of different cultures, so ultimately I'm not surprised. A more significant celebration of multi-culturalism would be a diverse angel line up without all their pedestrian, bland blondes. I'd say the segment/show was very Miss Universe, but even the looks you see in that contest are created with greater cultural significance in mind than what was seen last night. So that's insulting to Miss Universe.

Seeing Alexa Chung in Asian inspired S/S Prada 2017 look from an event last night was a reminder of how potentially more relevant the show could be (diversity-wise, fashion-wise, beauty-wise... savvy Into The Gloss readers were not buying that VS wanted all the girls to look themselves in an article I read last week and said so in the comments), but from the outside it appears as if the powers that be couldn't care less.

I think this company (not just show) is at a real crossroads. They've had a bad year - declining profits/effort to turn company around (bralettes) hasn't caught on and might not. Ratings were the worse they've ever been last night (and declining ratings across TV shouldn't be an excuse since they casted models with big followings from instagram), which is bad since they need people to watch the show to buy. That's the whole purpose of the show.

Having read theories in this thread, I doubt a live show, more high fashion models (people complain about 'skinny' models already, a more 'high fashion' cast will really turn people off) or better costumes is going to do it. I don't know what they're going to do. But if they don't do something, this show is going to quickly go the way of pageants (if it hasn't already). Still some interest there but hopelessly outdated in the current social climate. And that's the best case scenario; the powers that be better hope the disinterest in the show is not indicative of a larger disinterest in the company.

 

[happycanadian]

Ok ...

finally actually watched the show.

It was honestly so much better than I expected. Yes, that's right -- better.

It is still absolutely missing that certain *thing*, that touch of glamour, the energy, the mystery, the allure of earlier shows. But it was really entertaining television and the models looked gorgeous.

Gigi stood out to me. I adore her and I think she's been doing an incredible job of being a crossover hf-commercial model. But, she stood out to me because when you think of the criticism she's faced throughout her career for her body, seeing her on the runway this year just really was a bit jarring, I have to say.

 

[Gain]

What had me laughing is when they try to push how crossover the VS angels to HF are but then show the footage of mostly Balmain.

That part was so cringy. Out of those girls talking about their HF life only Alessandra really had a career in that field yet these nobodies kept going on and on about it.
It's funny how they never talked about this crossover thing when there were real HF angels like Doutzen and Karolina.

To me Kate G. was the star of the show, even though she only got one look. Idk why she and Jac aren't angels any more but it was a huge mistake to get rid of these two imo.

 

[modellove]

Agree about the Jasmine thing. The whole time I was watching, I realized that unless you were someone who follows models/is avid on social media, you really wouldn't know who wore the bra. The always have a special segment for it or something but no, not with her. They didn't even go into how much time it took to make like they always do. Plus it's not even like she opened or closed the segment, she was just...in it, which isn't necessarily great when it's the Fantasy Bra.

And as for the views...something needs to change. The entire reason they put in Gigi and Kendall (much to a lot of people's dismay) was for views, yet this is the second time the views went down. As a matter of fact, I think Adriana was trending in Twitter as opposed to the girls that have a jillion followers (which I guess is important nowadays). I think they need to go back and appeal to women as opposed to teens; it's obviously not faring well for them. Back when they had those types of shows you had the older women AND the teens watching since it was relatable, yet when you make teens your demographic I would imagine it's hard to get women over 30/40 to wanna watch young girls.

 

[zacatecas570]

I was very pleasantly surprised by Dilone, what a great energy and personality. My favorite of the show I guess.
Also all the asian girls looked very cute.
As much as Kendall, Gigi and Bella have million followers they didn't stand out for me. They were just there.
Adriana and Irinina looked hot AF!

 

[sixtdaily]

I think the show was fine, much better than last year. Lady Gaga should not have performed Million Reasons, other than that the musics were quite fitting. The editing of the show could have been better.

What needs to change is the cast (people want to see really hot girls or girls with great energy, not 20 blondes who look the same), the styling (stop covering their bodies!!), the music.

Also Lily A, Martha and Lily D need to go and I hope they won't cast Bella again, because she was the worst in the show.

 

[modevogue]

Dilone was a total surprise! I wasn't very keen on her at first but for sure was a stand out and the model that brought most energy. Loved her little dance with Bruno Mars!

Grace Elizabeth looked so stunning, for sure she has a future with the brand

 

[Deleted member 130879]

But this is the same company that thinks the silly first segment was an legitimate celebration of different cultures, so ultimately I'm not surprised. A more significant celebration of multi-culturalism would be a diverse angel line up without all their pedestrian, bland blondes. I'd say the segment/show was very Miss Universe, but even the looks you see in that contest are created with greater cultural significance in mind than what was seen last night. So that's insulting to Miss Universe.

Having read theories in this thread, I doubt a live show, more high fashion models (people complain about 'skinny' models already, a more 'high fashion' cast will really turn people off) or better costumes is going to do it.

You absolutely nailed the diversity question but I don't agree with this last paragraph.

The only way people would go watch this show (and I'm also talking for me, that I refuse to watch such circus nowadays) is to drop the reality show and do an actual fashion show.

- Actually good models with DIVERSE bodies: no more starving to death, no more contracts telling you when and what to eat and work out. Our society grew to embrace diversity and they would reach a wider variety of viewers if they revamped their casting. Fitness maniacs are so passé...

- They are still extremely racist even if they can't understand that and it's just hurting their business. They need to stop these sick African/Asian segments with blondes.

- The styling and clothing looks like a reenactment of Carnaval do Rio. And there's a reason people only dress like that for THAT occasion. They need to dig their archives and see what VS was about back in the 90s. It was all about selling the lingerie. That's what many other lingerie brands are doing... while increasing their sales.

- I still think doing a live show would help. They could release a second TV show with all the backstage nonsense. Stream the show live, create a giant buzz around it, and then show it on TV as usual.

 

[zacatecas570]

- They are still extremely racist even if they can't understand that and it's just hurting their business. They need to stop these sick African/Asian segments with blondes.

Completely agree, the segment for Pink was just ridiculous like 5 blonde models who look exactly the same. Dilone and probably Luma saved that section for me.

 

[Zposen]

I thought the show was pretty good, much better than last year. Lady Gaga killed it especially her last performance for the Black Angels segment, Bruno and Abel also did great.


I liked the casting for the most part. I thought there was a diverse group of girls although yes all the blondes kinda look a like.


As much as I think Ale and Adrianna are too old for this show but I don't see the show being the same without them especially Adrianna. Her energy and presence on the runway dominated and none of the younger girls came close to her. Joan Smalls is so underrated, she rocked those huge wings at the end. She doesn't get enough credit.


Too many girls relay on their beauty (Kendall, Taylor, the Lilys, etc...) and did not put enough energy in their performance. That needs to change. Others did a bit too much ( Gigi) and a few girls did nothing at all (Bella, Sara).


Pink segment had horrible styling but the girls energy save that segment and it was the most fun to watch.


The show overall ratings improved from last year but they went down in the key demographic for advertisers, sadly. Going live might give it an edge but ultimately too much of the show is released prior to it being televised. Keeping somethings for the show like who gets to wear the fantasy bra might help more people tune in... I think.

 

[MulletProof]

The Weeknd should be their resident musical act.. the show wasn't 100% a snoozefest thanks to the segment he's in, just like last year.

Lady Gaga on the other hand, has got to be the most overhyped pop singer of our time, I've warmed up to her after the protest she did in a truck (lol) but she's still all about image, she would be nowhere without it.. her actual sounds, from the lyrics to the music and don't get me started on her voice, has zero relevancy or even a feel-good, catchy vibe, more like something you'd hear at noon in the electronics area of kmart.

Re the models.. glad to see Adriana has stepped up her act a little and it's less cringe-worthy and more femme fatale.. she looked almost as good as Irina, who got very little camera attention but stole the show imo.. she's what VS used to be all about.. bombshells and total gems for their rarity, not standard sorority girls.

I agree completely with octoberchild about the express lane this show is in towards outdated pageant territory, and about how difficult it will be for them to get out of it at this point... it started with this spectacular, super exclusive thing (the Cannes show), then they kind of channeled all the energy towards one model (Gisele) and when she left, they had to built on the reputation without strong material or buzz or stars of their own.. so they've tried to recreate that, build their own stars, own buzz, and now they're in their bubble and so isolated even from the actual product... I mean, Josephine and Alessandra are wearing the same bra in the same color in the same segment, I didn't see a single bralette, which is probably their most ambitious venture after years stuck in Wonder Bra mode. I think lingerie was slightly more visible this time and I even found myself wondering about certain items (probably the only person paying attention to that, I know!) but surprise, you can't really find garters or tights in their website or store rolleye, and on the other hand, you can find most of what was show in their website.. so nothing new in that aspect either. Point is, if they can't get their act together in the very essence of the show... the rest will end up being just as weak.

Finally, back to the Miss Universe thing, they need to drop crap like the parts with Gigi and Josephine "omg ever since I was a little girl, my dream in life was wearing Victoria's Secret wings... all I ever aspired to.. I can't hold the tears.. every girl dreams about being a Victoria's Secret angel". Seriously?.. if that's really their dream, great? but don't make it public! it's embarrassing, retrograde and sends such an awful message to both male and female viewers.. Victoria's Secret is fun and we all love wearing lingerie and it makes women feel beautiful and sexy and that's all positive, but promoting it as if the ultimate dream of girls is to walk in bra and panties in a televised show sounds about as stupid and stereotyping as having some dude saying his ultimate dream in life is to run shirtless with a six pack in a football field, like, okay?. If they really are helping out with charities, they should focus on that instead, maybe focus on what their "alumni" is doing with charities, the projects Gisele, Doutzen, Karlie or Toni are involved with for instance, focus on models that have pursued education and are still ~Angels~ by night, sexiness in a modern way so to speak, not your sole occupation!, keep it fun but not stupid. Young girls are very aware of feminism now more than ever, so this just keeps them even more irrelevant than they already are.

 

[fluxxx]

watched it and actually it's better than what i expected and also better from last year's.
Irina stole the show for sure.. she oozes the sensuality and mystery.
Pink was still awful but I love the energy and Bruno's performance was totally help to made it better.
Sara Sampaio, Valery Kaufman and Taylor Hill looked good in picture but stiffs in motions.
Bella Hadid looked misserable.
I kinda like Kendull here, she has the girl next door charm and the outfits fit her perfectly, esp the first one.
Stella Maxwell looks amazing. She's deff my favorite angel from the show. I love how fun she is, esp in the last segment.
Lily Aldridge looks pretty actually tho kinda forgetable.
Martha Hunt, I almost forgot that she's existing and please cast Devon as angel instead of Martha. Devon brings more energy and charm than bland Martha.
Elsa was such a bombshell

 

[Cute]

I can't believe that Jasmine didn't get a little segment about her fantasy bra.. had they NOT included the Gigi and Bella being the first siblings to walk the show (really.. who cares), Jasmine would have had her deserved fantasy bra moment.

Don't they always have the fantasy bra scene in the show? There was like.. no mention of it at ALL IIRC.

 

[StoneSkipper]

- Actually good models with DIVERSE bodies: no more starving to death, no more contracts telling you when and what to eat and work out. Our society grew to embrace diversity and they would reach a wider variety of viewers if they revamped their casting. Fitness maniacs are so passé...

Well, judging from the sheer amount of famous "InstaFitness" boys and girls making a name of themselves (heck, Alexis Ren was in this very show, correct?), I'd say it's unfortunately far from passé...

Lady Gaga on the other hand, has got to be the most overhyped pop singer of our time, I've warmed up to her after the protest she did in a truck (lol) but she's still all about image, she would be nowhere without it.. her actual sounds, from the lyrics to the music and don't get me started on her voice, has zero relevancy or even a feel-good, catchy vibe, more like something you'd hear at noon in the electronics area of kmart.

Finally, back to the Miss Universe thing, they need to drop crap like the parts with Gigi and Josephine "omg ever since I was a little girl, my dream in life was wearing Victoria's Secret wings... all I ever aspired to.. I can't hold the tears.. every girl dreams about being a Victoria's Secret angel". Seriously?.. if that's really their dream, great? but don't make it public! it's embarrassing, retrograde and sends such an awful message to both male and female viewers.. Victoria's Secret is fun and we all love wearing lingerie and it makes women feel beautiful and sexy and that's all positive, but promoting it as if the ultimate dream of girls is to walk in bra and panties in a televised show sounds about as stupid and stereotyping as having some dude saying his ultimate dream in life is to run shirtless with a six pack in a football field, like, okay?. If they really are helping out with charities, they should focus on that instead, maybe focus on what their "alumni" is doing with charities, the projects Gisele, Doutzen, Karlie or Toni are involved with for instance, focus on models that have pursued education and are still ~Angels~ by night, sexiness in a modern way so to speak, not your sole occupation!, keep it fun but not stupid. Young girls are very aware of feminism now more than ever, so this just keeps them even more irrelevant than they already are.

I vividly agree with everything you stated here, MulletProof. I mean, Josephine herself has been doing very eloquent LGBTQ activism for years and she's been reduced to "BEING AN ANGEL IS EVERYTHING I'VE EVER DREAMED OF ZOMG". They could've even whipped something up about Gigi's body-shaming incident. Izabel also has a charity for kids with diabetes, I believe? None of that was even touched upon! I think VS still thinks that they have the game-changing status they did once. Things are different now than they were 10 years ago, and I don't think they're quite grasping that. Seriously, it's a lingerie show, let's lighten up the mood a little! It's all calculated and dripping with seriousness and it really takes away from the enjoyment of watching it.

Also, Lady Gaga was kind of a hot mess. I don't even dislike her, but her Million Reasons performance was disastrous. Yikes. The Weeknd and Bruno Mars were both pretty good, however, but I see no need of having a performer for each segment, especially since the mixes are usually pretty good.

What else? Bella looked extremely uncomfortable, and Taylor Hill looked downright miserable. Her opening of the Dark Angels segment was such a sap! I just wanted to hug her and tell her everything is going to be okay. Rachel Hilbert is pretty much the most forgettable person in existence and I still can't pick her out of that lineup. Zuri Tibby is so beautiful, but she seems to lack a little in the way of charisma.

On the flip side, Alanna, Dilone, and Sanne (though I think they just figured out the styling that works best on her) all really surprised. All the chinese girls were terrific, Ming especially. Grace Elizabeth and Luma are revelations. Jourdana and Maria Borges are just little balls of energy. From the angels, Elsa and Josephine seem like a natural fit to carry the Angel "bastion" forward. And they really should have Cindy Bruna/Sui He on speed dial should any Angel need replacing, really.